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http://kentsterling.com/2011/02/10/original-guns-n-roses-in-talks-for-next-years-super-bowl-halftime/

Kentsterling.com has been told that preliminary talks have already taken place to reconvene the most popular lineup of Guns N’ Roses to turn Indianapolis into Paradise City. Gun N’ Roses might be the only rock band with it’s members still living that hasn’t played a Super Bowl halftime show that could generate a real sense of excitement for what this year became a devolving mess.

After a significantly lesser halftime show this year with the overexposed Black Eyed Peas with Usher (who had to cancel a bar mitzvah appearance) and Slash from GNR, the NFL is looking to make a splash, and reuniting Axl Rose, Slash, Izzy Stradlin, Duff McKagen, either Steven Adler or Matt Sorum, and Dizzy Reed.

Nothing like a 30-minute trip to the fridge for another beer or three, knowing that you won’t miss anything relevant. Oh, how those ad agencies must have thrilled to the news that the Black Eyed Peas were willing to take the time away from their endless tour of talk and award show appearances to sing “I Gotta Feeling” for the 724th time on network television in the last 16 months. They could have gotten the same audience and performance for the cost of an Oprah show :30.

The halftime show of the Super Bowl tried to top itself each year with spectaculars until Justin Timberlake unsheathed Janet Jackson right teat and America overreacted like the crowd had been napalmed. Since then, it’s been rock backs and icons – until this year when evidently the B-52s were unavailable.

The Beatles – half dead, and McCartney did it. U2 – did it. The Clash – Joe Strummer dead. The Police – terrible reunion tour. All southern rock bands – mostly dead. Nirvana – one-third dead, one third in the Goo-Goo Dolls, one third MIA. Pearl Jam – too niche. Phish – way too niche, plus football on shrooms is no fun to watch. That leaves Justin Bieber and GNR, and if Bieber ever performs at a Super Bowl, I hope I’m there to take a bullet to stop the show.

Hopefully, Axl (the Indiana native) is on his meds, and agrees to do the show. It’s always a shame when a great band lets squabbles put a premature end to their creativity and ability to thrill an audience. GNR is long past its creative peak, but for 12-minutes, I would sit still in front of a TV to watch them rock.

Talks are still in the very early stages, and it may turn into nothing, but it’s good to know that at least someone is thinking clearly at the NFL.

Well the thing with CITR, TWAT, PROS and CD is that even though they were first mentioned in 1999, it doesn't mean they weren't written say in 1995, 1996.

One can only connect the dots. Riad and If The World - that's probably Axl watching 9/11 on CNN and it would fall in place with his voice from around that time. Sorry has Buckethead's Population Override sound from 2004. This I Love well that goes without saying, maybe the only song on the record dealing and written with actual love. That song is a good place to start when dating the material as for any other artist this would have been the sadest song they ever did, but on CD it's actually rather uplifting in contrast to all the depressive stuff like Prostitute, TWAT or Sorry. It's good music but would you want to dance or get laid to Prostitute? That's what I'm talking about, This I Love was written by the Axl who said "life sucks but in a beautiful kind of way", everything after was the "he's in my ass" Axl. Not saying whos right or wrong, just noticing a rather drastic change in musical themes and motivations. Also, the music (the actual composition/notation) is an indicator for a timeline as he keeps using certain themes and progressions as references to other songs and points in time or himself, it's most obvious in Prostitute with the little references to Estranged and TWAT.

I also wonder when the CD songs were written and recorded, and what the oldest song is on there--Oldest lyrically, that is.

This I Love 1992

Catcher 199?

CD 1999

TWAT 1999

Prostitute 1999

The Blues 2000

Madagascar 2000/01

IRS 2001

Rhiad 2001

If The World 2001

Better 2002 (?)

Sorry 2003/04

Scraped 2005

Shackler 2005

Just an educated guess from when I first heard (about) them.

Yeah it's probably about the inspiration, hence the mention of the cover material, maybe they could not agree on original material around that time but wanted to put out something. I wish he'd talk more about the working process as the artificiality of CD sure is evidence of a writers block.

Rick Rubin

Axl said on Twitter "no concrete plans about touring whatsoever" just a couple of days ago.

Now DJ says on Twitter they do tour?

Nothing would be written or recorded because they are all so different musically now.

Considering a reunion if only for the sake of the material?

If you were Guns n Roses' manager, what would you do?

- Fire half of the band and retire the entourage for a while.

- Release the leftovers as box set type of release and score soundtracks and commercials to get money and rid of that material.

- Call Izzy, Duff, Steven and Slash.

- Lock the guys into a room with no windows, no phone, no internet but lots of instruments and booze and a non Pro Tools recording device for two weeks.

- Release the result as the comeback album named "Guns N' Roses".

- Worldwide TV / radio / internet broadcast of reunion show and tour announcement.

- Reunite Led Zeppelin (+ Jason Bonham) and arrange co-headlining world tour.

- If Izzy and Steven don't feel like touring go with Richard and Frank. No CD/VR material.

- Retire.

Reunion.

I see people bashing DJ and comparing him negatively to Robin, Robin of all people!

It's kind of amazing for me to see Robin being praised and looked back sentimentally now when while he was in the band he was unceasingly (but righteously, IMO) bashed here for 'ruining' the old songs and for his meandering, amateurish solos. Even his 'shining moment' on CD, This I Love's solo, is kind of poor and is for me the worst part of the song because as a solo it doesn't uplift or awe, it just feels like an anticlimax--It goes nowhere as a solo.

I don't get the dissatification with DJ around here. The guy is a melodic player and has the classic rock sound and style. He may not be technically gifted like Bumble or Bucket, but he's got a melodic flow to his playing and his style is very much in the Classic Guns mold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgi6tzrTBCU&feature=related

Give me one solo that Robin ever did that matches up to just this one solo by DJ. I'll be honest, I wasn't sure about DJ myself until I heard Ballad of Death, but hearing it has convinced me he's the best thing to happen to Guns post 1996.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzEU_MnZdHg

It all comes down to wanting what you cant have and not knowing what you had until its gone. This and personal taste.

I've seen both Robin and DJ perform with Guns in person and I prefer Robin. He came across like a true artist all ups and downs of that included. DJ came across like an actor and he lost me with his stupid hand behind the ear pose and lighting a cig right before his solo just so the camera could catch it parking in the guitar tuners while he played his generic minor pentatonic blues scale stuff. To me that shit in Guns at this point comes across like pure sarcasm towards the band and their audience.

Robin may dance around like an idiot but he was his ever progressing self - no top hat, no cigs, no Slash poses and at least trying to come up with original guitar sounds and ideas. The above performance from Robin is not as nice and clean as what DJ comes up with and it has a lot of mistakes too, but its unique and on the edge and that's just why it goes right down my spine and IMO fits a band like Guns much better than the rather calculated tone and appereance of DJ.

give me the dark, experimental shit. that era music was conceieved by the most talented version of band personnel.

+1

I mean like a real blues track, not simply blues rock, like something off of LA Woman or even something as primal as Robert Johnson or Janis Joplin?

I think he'd be utterly amazing at it.

Bring it on!

And while in France, please get your asses northeast for a couple of shows in that tiny country right in the middle of Europe named Germany.

Signed.

I would not mind a fresh song or two but I do NOT want to see those documents, that's the bands own business and not for the public.

Also don't want the band to be blackmailed or played out against each other about that shit.

FUCK MSL. SUPPORT GUNS N' ROSES.

Most of the great rock music has come out of the US and the UK, and both are nations in severe decline. Maybe we'd get some good new original music if people started to push back against the State controlled fear society that sprung up after 9/11.

Or maybe we just peaked already, as a culture.

We're all waiting for the world to implode so we can start over.

We ARE the world. Use it or lose it.

Something I've been thinking about recently...

Led Zeppelin. The Rolling Stones. Aerosmith. AC/DC. Black Sabbath. Metallica. Iron Maiden. The Beatles.

What do these bands have in common? They're all some of the most influential acts in rock/metal music.

But I question whether GNR were a truly influential act, or rather the final culmination of the nearly 30 years of rock music that had preceeded them, taking all the best parts from acts such as the above and melding them into the ultimate rock n' roll package.

Certainly in the aftermath of GNRs initial success, rather than a host of imitators, we were faced with a new breed of innovators, such as Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Since GNR, has there been any popular rock act who can lay claim to their style as a major influence? Or did they perfect a style that did not call for imitation or influence? Or were GNR simply unfashionable?

Just to say that I don't see it as a negative trait. I think it's one of the reasons why GNR remain such a big draw in rock music, particularly the old hits - because there hasn't been any band before or since that made music like that. The reasons why nobody imitated or was heavily influenced by GNR are more what I'm interested in.

I think it is more complex and you have to look beyond music to find an answer.

It's been downhill culturally ever since the end of the cold war, maybe this was the last time pop/rock music really had a connection with life and souls and something to say (and the original GN'R was a part of that) because a generation had something to say, they had hopes and fears.

When you look back each generation had their cultural ups and down but there was always progression and light at the end of the tunnel, so for art there was something to express, rebel against or reach out about.

Not for todays people in a world where equality just means being out of balance. Ever since 9/11 the western world is in a coma, lethargy, apathy. Our generation has lost hope and that is reflected in the music, in any form of expression.

Final masterpiece? If you search for that somewhere in the early 90's, the last time the western world was full of HOPE and CHANGE, then you might find songs like "Estranged" by GN'R ask yourself "Does it ever get any better than this?" - Twenty years later, the answer seems to be: "No, because we didn't even fucking try."

So with the CD project Axl kinda reminds me of Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over The Cockoos Nest, like "at least I tried", must be tough with no chief in sight. They are out there but no new ideas in the house, every book has been read.

Great topic but I'd be more intrested in another question: Where do we go now?

"This I Love" in Arnhem was pretty fucking awesome.

I admit it wasn’t until I heard Dizzy’s rendition of Ziggy Stardust in 2006 that I got into Bowie, I mean I knew who David Bowie was of course but it was Dizzy’s cover that got me to check out his albums and stuff. Boy did I miss out, I only knew the radio stuff but the guy created some really good music!!

Did GN’R get you into other bands as well with their covers? Anyone got into McCartney because of LALD?

I mean they did like a lot of covers, so I wonder if anyone of you checked out the origjnals and discovered something?

btw: If you ever feel like checking out a bit Elton John beyond the candle song I recommend his album „Tumbleweed Connection“, some pretty good stuff there.

Already discussed. The article IS the interview, this is just an instance of shameless journalism.

at least the article was a nice one, no ass kissing and not the usual bashing and bullshit either, gotta give em that

well i would not call that an interview but its nice of axl to talk a bit and the article they made out of it is very nice too thanks for posting