sailaway

Thanks! Will go look for the 30. Trashcan shirt.

Found an entire mug-shot tshirt shop, they offered Capone,Hendrix,Morrison,j.Cash,w.Nelson,Elvis,s.vicious.

Got both the Morrison shirts, the newhaven shirt,and the Miami key theatre shirt.

Do you want the Charlie/killyouridols shirts or simply the mug shirt shop's addy ?

Merged the "Axls Shirts" thread with this one.

^^ Xactly! ^^

Cool! I know where to find the Kill your idols shirt, and a few Charlie shirts.

Black Sabbath has a lot of current clothes,shirts in the "Apparel" thread

Let's hear it, your best evaluation of whether/how much has being a gunner affected your life/behavior.

Would you have been like you are,regardless?

I doubt I would have been any different, I was already well versed in The Doors/Beatles/stones/Floyd for inspiration and role models I was twenty someting when I heard GNR in 88, so I was well on the way of being a social malcontent and rebel. It was already ingrained.

Has GNR impacted your behavior? Affected your views? How so?

Warchild. Pheline. Tabitha. Sailway. Nov_Rain. That's five right there. Shall I keep going? This new Axe person. If you really think I'm obsessed with you, why do you keep arguing and engaging me? Especially when you know that I have way more information that I could share with everybody. I'm not obsessed with you. Just don't think that crazy online bullies should be allowed to spread their negativity and to ruin the best GnR forum out there. Stick to one screen name and come here and chat about GnR, and nobody cares about you being a crazy Axl stalker. But once you start using multiple accounts, and you start making personal attacks on anybody who isn't worshipping your idol's every move.....then you have to expect people to call you out on your toxic behavior. Don't blame me for pointing out your multiple accounts and crazy behavior. If you don't like it, then start acting like a normal person. Remember when you were swearing that Sailway was a male - you had a good thing going there until you started acting crazy and insulting everybody. My advice to you is to drop all your fake accounts. Delete them all. And start over. Realize that Axl will never love you or be a part of your life. Realize he doesn't speak to you telepathically through his music. Find some real friends in the real world. And then in a few months, register on the forum and start fresh. And come here and CHAT with other GnR fans, without going crazy and insulting everybody all the time. And the other key: ONE account. And when I suggest you get back on your meds, I'm not doing that to be sarcastic. I'm really hoping that you do, so you'll find yourself in a better place/mindset soon. Good luck to you,.

I don't want/need or request your opinion/judgements or lame advice.

Stop posting about me :crazy: Nov.rain is from Spain, the Pheline account is merged with sail, ask hivolt. And the Becarefulwiththataxe isnt me, they confirmed it.

Soul,It is insane. And I don't put you in that group.I've seen you disagree with things Axl has done.

Oh no, you misunderstand, I meant that your idea that there are many people here who would change opinion on things just to follow Axl, is insane. I don't believe these "nutters" really exist, except for a very few individuals, and hence your crusade against this imagined group of "24/7 Axl worshippers" is just a result of a delusion. I challenge you to actually specify who you are talking about the next time you use that expression, and to argue why you feel the expression is fitting in the context of that thread.

Thanks! Will go look for the 30. Trashcan shirt.

Found an entire mug-shot tshirt shop, they offered Capone,Hendrix,Morrison,j.Cash,w.Nelson,Elvis,s.vicious.

Got both the Morrison shirts, the newhaven shirt,and the Miami key theatre shirt.

I grew up in a pentecoastal church.....can't say I miss the life style of being under lock and key and controlled.

Please share Sheri

Have had a bit of experience w/em myself, came down to a lot of mind control and guilt.Said that a person didn't have to commit a sin, just had to be thinking about it in Gods eyes.

They sure don't like television, had this tiny little Jesus that sat on top of the TV, said "would you be watching this with Jesus?" Well, I dunno bout that, dude turned Water into wine,and spent his time with thieves and whores. Comes down to being able to be spiritual without the imposed,man created constraints of religiousity...

There must be differences in Pentecostal beliefs. I grew up in a form of Pentecostal belief/Holiness church. And while I was raised with a small amount of those beliefs.... We usually,the majority of the time,wore dresses especially to church. There were a few times we wore pants to church/church functions.We were allowed to play sports,attend dances/proms,date,watch tv,have radios,go to the movies etc,etc,etc.And although Axl up bringing was more strict than mine,I have a feeling he was raised more similar to my church upbringing. One,he has talked in interviews before about his step dad listening to Elvis,his step dad smacking him for staring at an ad on tv that had a woman in a bikini. So yes,at least in Axl's household,there was tv and radios. And there are pics of Axl involved in sports,wearing short shorts.So not all Pentecostals live by the belief system posted above.

They are all a bit different in requirements/demands and you have several branches of the pentecostals..the UNPs, church of god, assemblies of god etc, etc.

Remember that pic, it was a track shirt.

Oh Good God Dalsh

For anyone interested in the recent naked-women shirts Axl's been wearing, and doesn't mind spending a lot of money for a shirt, here they are: http://eleonclothing.com/collections/t-shirts

95 bucks a pop

The "trashcan" shirt in here looks familiar as well...

these people are really crazy, aren't they saily? how is it going buddy?

Doing great maynard,and you?

Here's some typical Pentecostal church practices/beliefs/doctrines

"We wholeheartedly disapprove of our people indulging in any activities which are not conducive to good Christianity and Godly living, such as theaters, dances, mixed bathing, women cutting their hair, make-up, amusements, and unwholesome radio programs and music. Furthermore, because of the display of all these evils on television, we disapprove of any of our people having television sets in their homes. We admonish all of our people to refrain from any of these practices in the interest of spiritual progress and the soon coming of the Lord for His church."

Under a section entitled 'Public School Activities' it is stated:

"We disapprove of school students attending shows, dances, dancing classes, theatres, engaging in school activities against their religious scruples, and wearing gymnasium clothes which immodestly expose the body.

"We disapprove of school students being forced to take co-educational classes which involve boys and girls being mixed together in swimming, calisthenics, baseball, and other mixed athletics while clothed in ungodly attire which immodestly exposes the body."

Teachings Not Included in the Articles of Faith

Referred to as standards or holiness teachings, there are teachings which are not covered in the Articles of Faith. Some are basically taught in all UPC churches, while others may be added by the individual pastor. Some ministers teach that your salvation is at stake if you do not abide by these rules.

For instance, there is an issue of sleeve length. Most would probably teach that a sleeveless shirt would be wrong to wear, without mandating how long the sleeve should be. Another may mandate sleeves be no shorter than the elbow, with others stipulating they must be to the wrist.

Shorts are normally taught against for both sexes. Some allow culottes on women, while others forbid them. Gauchos and capris are usually disallowed. My former District Superintendent once referred to gauchos as 'glorified pants.' Pants are not to be worn by women and men should not go shirtless.

Facial hair on men in many churches is discouraged and their hair should be short while a woman is never to cut or trim her hair. Long hair is translated to mean uncut hair in I Corinthians 11. Some teach a woman's spirituality and/or salvation hinges on whether or not she abides by this teaching. Others teach a woman has special power in her long, uncut hair. There are ministers who mandate that women wear their hair up.

Women are to wear dresses or skirts. Some require a set length, while others advise it should be at least to the knee. Pantyhose may or may not be required.

There are ministers who teach against all jewelry, while others will allow a pin, ring or watch. Others claim you'll be lost if you wear a wedding ring. It is interesting that in the very first edition of their official publication, The Pentecostal Herald, they offered a 'Jesus Saves' pin for sale. "Mounted on beautiful white Mother of Pearl! An ideal gift for Christmas, or prize for Sunday School." The price was $1.50, including tax. (My, have prices changed!)

Radio used to be spoken against. However, for years the UPC has been broadcasting a radio program. Movies are not allowed. Televisions should not be owned, however limited use of video was approved. (Yet if you want your license as a minister in the UPC, you are asked if you have a television in your home. If you answer 'yes', even if it is only for video purposes, your application will be denied at General Headquarters in Hazelwood, Missouri.) There is a resolution that will be presented to the ministers at the 2013 General Conference in the fall that seeks to remove the mention of television from their manual.

Video use is "strictly limited to those areas in which motion picture cameras and projectors are traditionally permitted to be used; namely, in taking of pictures of family, friends, and church activities, and the viewing of educational, religious, or inspirational films which are consistent with wholesome Christian principles. Be it further resolved that we restate our strong opposition to viewing of all worldly motion pictures and video films as are being shown commercially in theatres and on television for entertainment purposes for the ungodly masses, and the use of them in any form for God's people. Be it further resolved that all video receivers be so altered as to be unable to receive television channels. Be it further resolved that none of our ministers use video in any way except as herein provided."

The UPC passed positional papers against organized sports and the Revised Standard Version of the Bible. The King James Version is accepted as the "most accurate translation of the Scriptures to be used in our churches and among our people." The UPC also has a judicial procedure that is supposed to be followed when there is an accusation of wrongdoing against a minister or if one minister has a grievance with another minister

Every time I read about this stuff I feel sorry for the people who trust these kinds of charlatans. They don´t help people, they take advantage of them, laugh at them and on top of that they earn lots of money. I wish Axl had had someone close to him who would love/appreciate him with honesty that would have slapped him to wake him up and make him see that these people were taking advantage of him and pulling his leg.

Axl's been a victim of such charlatans all his life, I even heard he went to Church as a kid.

Exactly,and a pentacostal church at that..now pentacosrals are a whole town of crazy within themselves, they believe in being baptized in the spirit,talking in tongues, they often attend 7 days a week, these are the "holy rollers" you hear about

Obviously Dane Cook sucks and Paris Jackson is awesome, based solely on their tweets alone.

Funny how that works on this forum. ****Flayer, welcome back. I had forgot about you.The only reason your comment has validity is because it is true. And you know that it happens ALL the time on this forum. But in this specific case, I'm not sure it applies, as I don't really know anybody that thinks Dane Cook is funny. His movies are horrible and I don't find his comedy funny at all. I watched one of his comedy shows and only laughed one or two times. So I'd suspect that most people on this forum over the age of 15 would agree with me that Cook isn't very funny. But there is no doubt that if he'd come out praising Axl, all you Nutters would be saying that he's the best comedian of our generation. That's just how you guys work. Everything is based on how it is related to Axl. Weird.

All your post are mere assumptions.

Not at all. It's based on what I've seen on this forum over the last decade. But thanks for your opinion. ****************Warchild, with all the meds you take, you probably shouldn't be drinking alcohol. ********* Soul,It is insane. And I don't put you in that group.I've seen you disagree with things Axl has done.

Making up truth again, only meds I take are tylenol and antibiotics for my osteomylitus.You said in the thread "who is the mist intellectual member if GNRs" that soul and I were one in the same.I quoted it and bumped that thread.This is only one example of your making up the truth to suit your fantasies and obsessions.Maybe you should consider counseling

If you dislike me so much, put me on ignore, then you won't have to worry about what I post.Or, if you PM me all your different alt accounts, I can do the same.What would I need counseling for? You are the one who has multiple personalities on a rock n roll forum, and are obsessed with a 51-year-old rock singer. I'd say that would warrant more counceling than somebody who thinks you are weird and creepy for doing so.

No I don't have alternate accounts, that is simply you making things up again.

Because I am positive makes me obsessed? Only in your mind.

You cannot simply make up things about another person and state it as fact in the real world. That is flawed thinking.

I honestly don't care what people such as you think, it won't affect my life one iota or cause me to rethink anything.

You certainly are obsessed with me though, or like my attention some can see that for the creep factor that it is.

Obviously Dane Cook sucks and Paris Jackson is awesome, based solely on their tweets alone.

Funny how that works on this forum. ****Flayer, welcome back. I had forgot about you.The only reason your comment has validity is because it is true. And you know that it happens ALL the time on this forum. But in this specific case, I'm not sure it applies, as I don't really know anybody that thinks Dane Cook is funny. His movies are horrible and I don't find his comedy funny at all. I watched one of his comedy shows and only laughed one or two times. So I'd suspect that most people on this forum over the age of 15 would agree with me that Cook isn't very funny. But there is no doubt that if he'd come out praising Axl, all you Nutters would be saying that he's the best comedian of our generation. That's just how you guys work. Everything is based on how it is related to Axl. Weird.

All your post are mere assumptions.

Not at all. It's based on what I've seen on this forum over the last decade. But thanks for your opinion. ****************Warchild, with all the meds you take, you probably shouldn't be drinking alcohol. ********* Soul,It is insane. And I don't put you in that group.I've seen you disagree with things Axl has done.

You said in the thread "who is the most intellectual member if GNRs" that soul and I were one in the same.

I quoted it and bumped that thread.

This is only one example of your making up the truth to suit your fantasies and obsessions.

Maybe you should consider counseling

Hey

Obviously Dane Cook sucks and Paris Jackson is awesome, based solely on their tweets alone.

Funny how that works on this forum. ****Flayer, welcome back. I had forgot about you.The only reason your comment has validity is because it is true. And you know that it happens ALL the time on this forum. But in this specific case, I'm not sure it applies, as I don't really know anybody that thinks Dane Cook is funny. His movies are horrible and I don't find his comedy funny at all. I watched one of his comedy shows and only laughed one or two times. So I'd suspect that most people on this forum over the age of 15 would agree with me that Cook isn't very funny. But there is no doubt that if he'd come out praising Axl, all you Nutters would be saying that he's the best comedian of our generation. That's just how you guys work. Everything is based on how it is related to Axl. Weird.

All your post are mere assumptions.

Hey he said NUTTERS everybody drink up, game rules!

except for 10 seconds, he sounds bad as usual, maybe the camera or youtube's fault....

:rofl-lol:Axl deluded fans are hilarious.

Yes, we are deluded since we aren't total pessimists towards every move Axl makes. makes sense.

except for 10 seconds, he sounds bad as usual, maybe the camera or youtube's fault....

:rofl-lol:Axl deluded fans are hilarious.

Yes, we are deluded since we aren't total pessimists towards every move Axl makes. makes sense.

He is going to continue the fat,bloated,sounds terrible litany of shtick as long as it winds people up or gets a reaction.

Which is quite pathetic considering he's putting on a half-assed show for paying customers.

You misunderstood what was being referred to there. Not Axl, but a user that says those things over and over again.It sounds to m

e like Axl was singing fine.Ali

This^^

Seems to be entirely too many jealous little haters/unfans around.

I think they know who and what they are.

Everyone in Sedona has "magical" or "spiritual" powers. (insert sarcasm)

And Arcos Cielios is a non-prophet organization..badump/ching

Here is the article HRS**************Apparently much land in Canada was bought withGNR $$'s, but her husband Eliott eventually had to sella lot of it after Yoda's death in an effort to supportother interests.Apparently after her death Elliot offered up a Yodasubstitute in an attempt to keep the $$'s rolling in"Yoda" style. She was also oriental and coached nodoubt.I also heard that Axl got taken for seven figures bythese charlatans in Sedona. I suppose with exorcismsat the discount price of $75,000 and weekend confabsat $25,000 per head it wouldn't take long for the $$'sto rack up.Apparently certain staff members around Axl werealso required to pay a monthly retainer to Yoda of$10,000. I'm sure it was money well spent Dougie.Even funnier I have heard that the Maynardsthemselves would occasionally let their loose lipsdisparage and mock Axl. Lovely way to have treatedyour cash cow!

Aren't these Alan Nivens words? From the podcast he did a month or so ago?

Edit: tracked it to GNREVO Board, let me find quote source,or if someone has it, feel free to post it.

Thx

Here's the address and phone number if anyone needs some spiriatual help....

Arcos Cielos Global Peace (928) 284-0350 PO Box 20069 Sedona, AZ 86341

Originally Posted by Arcos Cielos Sharon Tanemura Maynard, born in Western Canada, brings a unique international flavor to Arcos Cielos and its innovativeprograms. ... Her educational background includes an ARCT Degree from Toronto’s Royal Conservatory of Music and studies in Communications at Simon Frasier University in Vancouver. She also earned a Bachelor of Arts in Communications from the University the Trees Consciousness Research Institute.

Her unique gifts in the areas of Financial and Creative Structuring were passed on to her from her grandfather, who was a Buddhist Priest.

Her picture is here.

According to her husband's, Elliott Maynard, biopage: "He received a Ph.D. in Consciousness Research from the University of the Trees in Boulder Creek, California."

Searching google brings up people who have "doctorates" in "Nature Awareness" from the University of the Trees. Needlessto say,the"University of the Trees" is not accredited and it is not listed as legallyoperating in California. Sounds likea Kent Hovind typeof "education" and "doctorate."

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Here is the article HRS

**************

Apparently much land in Canada was bought with

GNR $$'s, but her husband Eliott eventually had to sell

a lot of it after Yoda's death in an effort to support

other interests.

Apparently after her death Elliot offered up a Yoda

substitute in an attempt to keep the $$'s rolling in

"Yoda" style. She was also oriental and coached no

doubt.

I also heard that Axl got taken for seven figures by

these charlatans in Sedona. I suppose with exorcisms

at the discount price of $75,000 and weekend confabs

at $25,000 per head it wouldn't take long for the $$'s

to rack up.

Apparently certain staff members around Axl were

also required to pay a monthly retainer to Yoda of

$10,000. I'm sure it was money well spent Dougie.

Even funnier I have heard that the Maynards

themselves would occasionally let their loose lips

disparage and mock Axl. Lovely way to have treated

your cash cow!

i thought it was beta checking the vibes at trunk's interview. yoda died within the last few years. somebody posted some rumors here that her husband tried to replace her with a new guru, but axl didn't take the bait. the dude since remarried, and continues to post weird shit on the internet every once in a while.

That was me, I found an article saying Elliot was supposedly trying to replace Sharon with an equally oriental spiritual, will see if I can spy it out again.Check out the Arcos Cielios website, those people are obscenely wealthy from a non profit business.Guy graduated from some " Tree" university.

Was it also true that axl had a falling out with him when axl heard they were all making fun of him behind his back?

I think so, but let me try to find that page again before I say that as any sort if theory without anything to back it up.

Perception can be a good ability but also a handicap when it turns to cynicisim.

Going to look now, was reading the financial reports on Arcos Cielos and came across it.

He is going to continue the fat,bloated,sounds terrible litany of shtick as long as it winds people up or gets a reaction.

Agreed.Ali

The situation at GNRevo,with so many people quitting and leaving could have been avoided, but it is what it is the constant negative comments grating on the nerves of more than a few.

I think the consistent negativity and the personal attacks are both rooted in. Passive aggressive behaviors.

But, I'm apparantly a deluded fan,so what can i possibly know.

Have a great night

He is going to continue the fat,bloated,sounds terrible litany of shtick as long as it winds people up or gets a reaction.