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On 18.06.2020 at 7:52 AM, SoulMonster said:
Not sure what you are getting at. What I think Axl said was that if he had forced Slash and Duff to sign over the rights to the name by threatening to not do a show, they could have taken him to court over that and won. It is simply not legal to force someone to do something they don't want to do by threatening with a riot, it is called "under duress". So Axl's argument is that Slash and Duff is lying.
Oh, my point was that they could do so - sue him for forcing them to sign a contract (not that I believe that is what happened) - only until the statue of limitations has passed. Most offences / crimes even can be pursued in court only within a specified time. I think someone at gnrevo (where some parts of the contract were posted) implied that Axl used the clause shortly after the statute passed (and I don't think it's the same period as for breach of contract).
My opinion on this is that both parties (Axl vs S & D) are not saints in this. The facts are that one party lost rights to a valuable trademark without getting anything as a recompensation (the contract that we have doesn't have anything about what they get in return for the name), while the other party got the rights to said trademark (possibly worth millions of $) without paying anything. Implying that it happened "just so" or "by chance" is, imo, ludicrous. Of course it was a planned action. There was a contract, they changed it (remeber, it's a foot note) in such a way that some of them lost something that was previously theirs. Noone in their right mind would give away such an asset for free, even if its value was only in the realms of possibilities. And no lawyer would let that kinda thing pass. Thus I would wager that S&D either were not in their "right mind" or they had no lawyer at their side (I think it was Duff who wrote in his book that from this point on Doug implied he was representing GNR and not Duff...) or were duped into believing it meant nothing. Either of this causes could make a good claim in court. You can't just fool someone into signing something, even if it's in small print (you can for example sue financial institutions if there are some clauses in small print that you were not made aware of when signing e.g. a mortage deal). But all this is invalid if you don't go to court within a specific time - if you let it go, it's your problem. Thus I find it quite believable that S&D fabricated that story about signing before a concert just to not look like utter fools. Because it's one thing to sign it under whatever circumstances and it's yet another to let it last after the tour ended and when they had plenty of time to reconsider. Such negligence does not make them look good, especially if, like Duff, they are tryin to look like "shrewed businessmen". On the other hand I also believe Axl when he says it happened in a different way in which he personally didn't take part. It was much safer for him not to know how Doug or whoever else got the signatures. I think he simply said what he wanted and someone got it done.
And btw, this famous clause is probably why we now get GNR children books and toy trucks - S&D probably don't have a word in this... I don't think it's a source of much income in the end.
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8 hours ago, SoulMonster said:
Axl said so to, when he pointed out that if this had been the case he would have been slaughtered in courts.
Hmmm... but didn't he actually use the clause after the statute of limitations passed? Which would suggest he was afraid that sth was not right in the process. It's enough that S & D could reasonably prove they were under influence of drugs/alcohol when they signed and they could go to court and as he said "slaughter him". It's just my opinion but I think Axl knew what he wanted, and wanted to get it at all cost, even if the meant going borderline.
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18 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
According to that forum member's posts, Izzy had signed for Vegas and Coachella and said that those shows would be all for him and didn't want to deal with GnR further. If this is true, the question is why Izzy didn't play at the gigs he had agreed on playing, Vegas and Coachella.
Duff said that they waited for him at rehearsals and they were texting him, but he didn't turn up.
Yes, that is interesting. Maybe the dealings were bad to begin with and then got even more sour around the time of that (unconfirmed) soundcheck / rehearsal? The sure thing is, there were talks, and neither party was satisfied. At what point did Izzy pull the plug? Hard to tell.
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6 hours ago, LunsJail said:
I thought it was the most interesting part myself if you know the history of this band.
Yeah, that sounds like the most revealing part. Now I remeber during the before-reunion speculations on this forum, when everyone was talking about the Izzy possiblity, someone posted that Izzy met with (some?) of the big 3 and had only one comment: never again. Judging by Matt's account that might have been some insider info... To me it suggests that there was more than money at the core. This "more" was hidden and covered by Axl & Duff in their interview as Izzy being flaky, and by Izzy with his tweet about money. I think both are just a way to hide the real thing. It could simply be a power struggle - who gets to control what. I get the impression that Izzy, just like Matt, has a strong character and doesn't like to be pushed around. And I like them both exactly for that. Haven't read Matt's book, but I don't really buy the criticism here. A lot of people criticise here that Axl is surrounded by yes men that never stand up to him. But then a lot of people criticise Matt (and to certain extent Izzy too) for saying no to Axl and the rest of them and being strong willed about it.
Here's the post about Izzy & reunion:
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1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:
Fucking christians. Christian politicians are overruling a suggestion to allow groceries to stay open during eastern. Usually Norwegian groceries have to be closed at so-called holy days. So appeasing their imaginary god is more important than preventing spread of corona as now everybody has to go shopping in the immediate days before easter to stock up for the holiday. Fucking christians.
In my country they implemented a rule that each shop (including huge supermarkets) can only have max 3 x cashier number of people at any time. Plus no meetings, not even of 2 people, anywhere. We're not allowed to even go out to do sports, alone. Forests and parks are closed. BUT they made an exception - as much as 50 people can be inside 1 church on Easter Sunday. There's no words for that. So that's why we're locked up now? So that some stupid, religious fuckers can go and spread the disease a week from now???
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5 hours ago, SoulMonster said:
In Norway, only 5 % of those tested with symptoms actually had covid-19. The rest had other illnesses. What you describe could be so many other respiratory illnesses. Hoping you had it, though! And hopefully soon you can get tested to see if you've had it, so you and your family can return to normal.
The question is, whether they test people for covid if they have a positive results for, let's say, flu. I think it's extremely optimistic to assume that there cannot be any co-infections. If your immune system is fighting flu virus and you come into contact with another pathogen (covid for example) you're plrobably more likely to contract that one as well. Here's some results showing that:
Edit: otherwise, the best way to fight covid would be to infect everyone with the common cold virus!
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6 hours ago, SoulMonster said:
I think the idea is to avoid the huge amount of infected people needing intensive care and ventilators at the same time, and to slow down the epidemic until a vaccine is developed. It's gonna be tough because it could lead to many months of harsh regulation, but you reduce the number of fatalities.
According to that paper it is meant to buy time - time to test everything and anything. From vaccines to combination of antiviral drugs, etc. To increase the production of safety materials (masks, suits, etc.) and equipment. Right now many ideas are tested, e.g. 3d printing of ventilators and face protectors. As long as the health systems are not overwhelmed there is chance to prepare for the next "wave". Once all ICUs are full, and medical personnel gets sick (10% of the fatalities in Italy...) it might be too late. If health systems collapse people would be dying not because of especially severe symptoms but because of lack of equipment. Right now in Italy one doctor reported that they don't put those over 60 under ventilators... So that's why the "dance" makes sense... It's not an ideal measure (it's pretty bad actually, given all the costs) but it still seems like the best one.
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These are great. Corrected the Izzy part, will take a look at the others when I have time.
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Hmmm... The scans are actually worse...? They kinda look weird, this is the first question from the photo:
And here is the scan:
Even the ciphers in the year seem distorted somehow...?
The photo was pretty good, only the page was bent a bit and so some parts were out of focus and turned out blurry. Maybe try taking a separate photo of each page while holding the edges down?
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On 3.03.2020 at 9:26 PM, Blackstar said:My Japanese is no good, but with a little help from google I managed to translate the Izzy part The copy is really bad at places so I had to guess at times and some parts I couldn't read at all. I put [...] there - meaning there's some word missing. When I wasn't sure I put comments in []. @Blackstar any chance you have a better copy?
What I find interesting in that interview is that you can already see a rift between Izzy and the rest. He seems to be disappointed that they left the street life and turned into celebrities, while he still tried to be the "normal guy" from Sunset Strip
Edit: filled in the missing parts, thanks @SoulMonster
QuoteMe, I’m the same as I was before. Going to a club with a body guard? No way!
As I pushed the door open, he was lying stretched out on the sofa. He looked extremely tired. With a stubble unusual for him and wrapped in a green leather jacket to keep out the cold, he gave a pitiful impression. Not changing his position, he extended his right hand to introduce himself. A soft hand…
He coughed lightly as if he tried to bring himself back to life, raised slowly to a sitting position and looked into my eyes. Or so it looked to me, but I couldn’t really tell as he wore dark sunglasses.
How is your first time in Japan?
It feels great. Food is good… (laughs)
Laughing lightly he glances at the articles in this magazine. Starting with the basics, I want to know what type of a guy he is.
When did you start playing guitar?
Around 1980… Before that I played bass for around a year. And even before that it was drums. I [threw away?] bass and became a guitarist because I wanted to write my own songs and needed something more melodic. I thought guitar would be [better?] to express myself… in my opinion, that is…
Why did you choose drums at first?
No reason apart from it being fun. There was a guy in the neighborhood who started a band in his basement and we often made some noise. We would play whenever my pals would come… and there were always plenty girls hanging on. (laughs) At that time, drums seemed pretty fine. I didn’t have any special heroes, but I was a TV child: I absorbed a lot of different music that was played on TV.
Do you think that having played bass and drums helps you personally as a guitarist?
Yeah. When I write a song, I can intuitively hear the drum part. As if I had drums in my head.
You mean it made you sensitive to the rhythm?
So to speak.
Some people say it’s harder to play cool rythm than to play complex solos. How is it for you?
How… Well, it depends on the song, but I simply play as I feel, so it is hard to expain what I’m doing. Basically, I try to mesh well with Steven’s drums.
What is the difference between yours and Slash’s style?
First of all, no matter whether he is doing a solo or not, he is more technical then I am, and he has a good phrase. These days we have a good combination. If I play a single line, he starts a riff around that… We manage to make some surprisingly good stuff.
I guess there are other bands that put focus on rhythm and have people in similar position to you, but out of other bands’ guitarists who has been a particular inspiration for you?
Andy McCoy. Playing, songwriting… he’s simply a genius! Once in a while we meet, and we always hang out then.
Don’t people say you’re similar?
Ah… I know we have similar faces. (laughs)
When the first Guns n’ Roses pics and videos reached us, everyone said “Izzy is a guitarist somewhere between Joe Perry and Andy McCoy”.
That’s too homey. (laughs) I was on tour with Joe Perry, and Aerosmith was the band I grew up listening to, the first time I heard their songs I was really blown away. I love Aerosmith…
They also once had that bad boy image, but now they are completely clean. Do you feel there’s now a gap between you?
It’s not like that. I’m glad we could go on tour with a band like them. Sometimes we take off and it can be dangerous. If we were to tour with a similar band, it would be unthinkable. When I wake up hungover after 2 days of drinking, Steven Tyler is happily running around already. And looking at that makes me think “why am I doing such stupid things?”. I think there’s merit just to be made think that way.
Right now there is even a no smoking rule in Aerosmith interview room. Do you think you will be like that in 10 years?
Living that long would be nice! (laughs) I don’t know what will happen. I think there are things to think about as you get older but at this point I can’t say anything.
As people get older, the rock n’ roll lifestyle seems to fade, don’t you think?
Well, there’s a limit to partying. I don’t care if the band breaks down tomorrow or if I’m penniless. I will survive. I know how to survive. Now with a little success that we’ve had, with money coming in, the band are all leaving behind the street life. Becoming normal people. No one is walking the Sunset Strip anymore. But for me, nothing changes. I’m hanging out with the same bad company as before, and I stroll the same places, with the same people. Walking into a club with a body guard? No way!
You mean you don’t want to lose yourself?
Right. I want to stay myself, and I don’t want to lose my songs. Even now, I often go to clubs. By myself… I don’t need to be walked in! (laughs)
The club scene is now full of bands that copy Guns n’ Roses, right?
That is common. But it’s not a bad thing, it’s more like a tribute to us. In a club in Tennessee I was surprised to run into a band covering „Welcome to the Jungle”. They played all parts lower [in lower key?], but it was pretty good. Maybe better than us. (laughs) I never thought other bands would play our songs… I was happy.
You seem to really like clubs, but right now you play big arenas, would you still want to go back to the club scene?
It’s ok now. Sometimes between the big gigs we play in theaters with capacity of 2000-3000 people. But playing a club-scale live gig is a good thing.
When touring with Aerosmith we played a lot of big venues. When playing outdoor stadiums, once you connect with the audience, the feeling is pretty good. Still, the Texas Stadium on the last day was the worst. It was cold. The stage was 15 feet high and it felt like the audience were far below. I hate things like that. And at the Giant’s Stadium – I don’t know why, but people threw tennis shoes at the stage. Hundreds of them.
If we had printed this interview 2 months ago, the Japanese fans might have copied that. (laughs)
Please, no! (laughs)
Changing the topic, you’ve known Axl for around 13 years now, right?
Yeah… it’s been 14-15 years already.
You probably know some things that even other members don’t know, don’t you?
Might be. I might be the person who knows [him] the best.
Because of his attitude, he seems the type of person to be easily misunderstood.
Oh, certainly, he’s a man that invites misunderstandings. But he’s a normal guy. At least for me. (laughs) Me and him, we’re not exact opposites but, how do I put it… we fit together like puzzle pieces. Sometimes he disappoints me, sometimes I disappoint him. If he’s in trouble, I help, and sometimes I need help from him. I trust him. That’s what this kind of relationship entails.
There are bands that sound like you, but what is different about Guns n’ Roses is that you seem to have the position of “spokesperson for the kids”? What do you think?
Hmmm… I think if you read the lyrics you would understand, we just sing about the stuff that is happening around us. For example, I don’t know how it is in Japan, but in West Hollywood police are the worst. Even when you haven’t done anything, you’re just wandering around, you get approached with a gun ready. Thanks to the cops, we, the general public, can’t walk around in peace. Weird, isn’t it? (laughs)
Once before I happened to be caught with drugs on me… that was the worst. The cop wrote more than 3 pages, making up a bunch of things I didn’t say. I don’t think I should be talking about this now…
By the way, the album has reached No. 1 in the US…
Can you believe it? (laughs)
Ha, ha, ha… Did you expect it?
Not at all! It still seems unreal…
Do you remember the moment when you learned you have reached the top?
Yes, I didn’t think a thing. (laughs) That’s because we were on tour. When you’re on tour you’re all in mess, you know? You hope everything will go well, and you have your head full of things. At that time, I was told “You’re number 1!” but I was like “Great, where is my guitar by the way?” (laughs)
Nobody made a toast or anything. Only later, when you think carefully, you notice the importance of it.
Since the start of the tour, it’s been…
15 months. Long! (laughs)
This band doesn’t seem to be the type to think one week ahead?
That’s cruel… Well, it’s true. (laughs)
Why do you think you have been on tour for 15 months?
I don’t know. Sometimes, I wonder myself how strange… it’s a strange journey. You can’t stay put. When I returned to my home in LA after we finished the US tour, I had like 5-6 days of free time but there was just this one suitcase rolling around in my room and nothing to do. Not even a sound check. (laughs) So I quickly arranged a flight to Germany and flew to my girlfriend there. Then I came to Japan. I don’t know why, but I get irritated when there’s nothing [to do]. I feel restless.
We can play as long as possible, and if we get to visit a few places here and there, it’s enough for me. I like that. That’s why I’m very happy to come to Japan for the first time, and I really look forward to going to Australia after that.
You’re already a tour addict.
That's what it is. I’m not particularly good at German…
By the way, I remember reading a comment that [you] tried to learn from a Japanese text?
Yeah, about that… I had that Berlitz text. It was pretty good. But I lost it and haven’t done anything since then. (laughs) Here, there’s no way to chat in German…(having said that, he says a few words in German)
Finally, I want to ask the simplest and the most difficult question…
What?!
What is Rock n’ Roll for you?
Difficult, for sure. It’s not something you can put into words…
He didn’t say „it’s my life” or “the origin of everything”. This way the interviews with 4 members ended without problems. However, it was still unknown if the tentatively scheduled interview with Axl would take place.
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1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:
It is impossible to compare nations by looking at the number of confirmed cases of covid-19 infections, since each country's policies of testing varies so much. South Korea tests a lot whereas the US so far has tested quite few.
Of all countries with at least 1000 confirmed cases, Norway seems to have the lowest fatality rate. Of course, I don't think the fatality rate in reality is much different for different countries with sort-of similar hospitals and capacities, so this probably just means that other countries have underestimated their number of cases due to little testing. Then, by looking at the ratio between confirmed cases in Norway (1,471) and fatalities (3), we get a total fatality rate of 0.2 % across all ages, genders and co-morbidities. Or, in other words, there are 490 times as many cases in Norway as there are fatalities. I would find it likely that this number would be the same for every country (assuming their health care systems are equally good at preventing deaths and are operating at capacity, which is not necessarily the case for Italy). We can then use this number to calculate the real number of cases in other countries that don't test as much.
If we do this for the UK, we get 35,280 cases, not the 1,960 that is confirmed by UK health authorities.
And for the US we get 55,860 cases and not 6,496.
For the Netherlands we get 21,070 cases and not 1,710.
I am not saying this is entirely accurate (the number of actual cases in Norway is of course much higher than the number of confirmed cases), but it does show what the more likely scale of infected are. This is also not in disagreement with any reported, confirmed numbers. US authorities would agree that the number of confirmed cases are of course much lower than the number of actual cases.
In the analyses I linked earlier there is a different type of estimation - based on the lag between people getting symptoms and going to see a physician. The guy analyzed data from interviews the doctors in Wuhan carried out with those that tested positive, they asked when they had the earliest symptoms. When you plot that data you see that there's this huge lag for all confirmed cases that indicates there are so many more infected at any given point in time. And that's not even accounting for those that don't develop symptoms (and there is data that even 50% of infected don't: https://promarket.org/why-mass-testing-is-crucial-the-us-should-study-the-veneto-model-to-fight-covid-19/ ) and those that have light symptoms and don't go to a doctor.
To add to that they show that the most dire reason for fatalities is not the virus related symptoms, but rather low capacity of the health service. Lockdowns in other provinces in China resulted in a flat curve of infections and fatality rate below 1 percent, while in Hubei and Italy it was a few percent - in both cases the problem was not enough equipment and medical personnel. So it is really crucial to flatten the curve, but that data shows that without lockdowns you can't do it. That's why I'm totally puzzled at Johnson's (or the swedish guy) talking about flattening the curve without much action. How on earth is that supposed to happen?
Here's the link, it's realy worth reading (though it's outdated now by a few days): https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
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14 hours ago, GNR_RNR said:
This doesn't disagree with my point?
tbh it's mostly just alarmist pap
If you took the time to read it, you would know it does precisely disagree with your point. And if analyzing data on known cases is 'alarmist pap' to you than you're simply in denial. Elsewhere you ask for the facts - in this link you get a proper visualization and analysis of the 'facts', but you conveniently dismiss them, so I guess you are not interested in facts.
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It's actually 7 p.m... There was an interview with Izzy where he explicitly said that, can't find it though...
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8 hours ago, GNR_RNR said:
The thing is despite what makes sense to the average person big events don't present that much danger to the public, as long as the overall rate of infection i the country is low enough.
Ugh, no?
https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
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3 hours ago, SoulMonster said:
Btw, if there are any German speaking members who who would offer to look over our translation, then that would be hugely appreciated. We also have a few other German articles that could benefit from some help with the translations, and also a Japanese interview from 1988 that still hasn't been translated. Thank you.
Is there a link to the Japanese one?
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10 hours ago, Powderfinger said:
I’d like to read what Izzy might say about Slash.
QuoteSlash has accused you of turning in sloppily made demo tapes.
"That's not Slash talking. That's Axl talking and Slash repeating it.https://www.a-4-d.com/t570-1992-11-dd-musician-interview-with-izzy
Kinda sums it up for me...
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On 27.02.2020 at 6:58 AM, ludurigan said:
apparently he has actually another uncirculated izzy interview
should we ask him about it?
Do you mean the one they talked about? Yeah, if he's really done a longer one, I'd love to hear it...
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I remeber in the times of the izzyboard there was a fan interview with him where he literally gave his email address so that promoters could contact him. That was at the time of the petition to release "like a dog" I think (?). So I think lacking money / management was a big reason for him to stop touring.
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4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:
Is anyone defending the poor communication skills of TB and how they treated Margott? I haven't seen anyone do that....
There's plenty of posts earlier in this thread suggesting that their "negligence" in the racism case is just normal or that maybe Margott is to blame for the response she got because she is obsessed with the band... read back.
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5 minutes ago, Mysteron said:Whatever, just saying what I'm reading. If I am wrong, then I apologise. TB act on behalf on an artist in a band, Slash has a manager, Duff has a manager, they are just people who do stuff on behalf of the artist, not jedi masters who control youtube. And, if you manage a band, do you focus on the millions who attend concerts over three years, or a few people on a forum.
This is the attitude I really don't get. Why do people defend TB as some poor fellas with no power or control over anything? This is a brand, they are hired as managers and they insult their customers and fail to follow (or pretend to follow) their complaints/inquiries. Imagine that happening in, say, a telecom? Part of management is PR, if they can't handle that personally - because there will always, in any brand, be annoying customers - fine, hire someone to do it. To smile sadly, say "sorry for the inconvenience, we're working hard to improve your experience" and turn the other cheek. That's literally what PR is about. No matter whether they really intend to do anything or not. Have you ever seen a paying customer being insulted in any customer service??? The employee would be out of the job... No matter if the customer was annoying, shouting, etc. They can be politely walked out of the door and that's it. And here we have a person who is paying for the service (buying tickets, merch, etc) who asks a polite question and gets insulted. No matter what the issue is, no matter what the personal relation is between them, that's totally unprofessional. GNR are not the only band with crazy / obsessed fans but somehow others manage without insulting their customers. And if you think TB as managers can't work anything out to maintain the free publicity or monetization on YT, that's again them failing at their jobs.
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On 30.07.2019 at 5:21 PM, solstar said:
It was at a skate shop in San Diego. Here's the original post. Someone even commented they saw him and talked to him there that day
@Tori72 he's well-fed indeed but in a really cute way . Coolest gunner by far
Is the third pic in that post also Iz? It says "they were stoked when he showed them some old pix"... But it doesn't look like him to me.
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2 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:
That's the part that confuses me, if Duff actually meant it or if he's changed his mind now.
I think Duff always bends the way the wind blows... For me it was pretty clear when early after NITL first leg Duff started downplaying Izzy's contributions. It just sounded really weird, after his working with him just before the reunion. And of course after writting in his own book how important Izzy's role was. He was asked whether Izzy was the "unsung hero" of GNR, which he is - no matter if you agree on how big his contributions were to AFD, he's definitely the one guy who is least known for contributing by the general public. Even Steven gets more credit. To which Duff replied that it's not the case, if anything they were all "unsung". Really? Axl and Slash were not appreciated / recognized, etc? That was such a blatant stretching of the truth that it was instantly clear he's shifted gears and now is going backwards. Every other time after that when he gets asked about Izzy, it's the same. The guy who called Duff spineless was absolutely right!
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I'm not sure I remember correctly, but wasn't there a story that it was actually Axl who quit the old partnership but since the contract version signed somewhere during the UYI tour covered that case he took the name with him? Wasn't that the whole problem with that contract that angered D & S so much? Axl didn't own the name per se, but in case of him quitting the band (and/or partnership?), he became the owner. And then - correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure I read it somewhere - he formed a new entity with the GNR name and invited Slash and Duff back? And that's the moment when Slash resigned? That is, he didn't join the "new" partnership but remained in the old one. So in principle there were 2 partnerships, one that managed the old licensing, rights, etc. but didn't own the name, and the new (consisting of Axl) that had the name but couldn't manage the "old" licenses, etc. In effect, they could stop each other from making any revenue via selling the rights to use GNR trademarks, catalouge, etc.
So if that was the story, the question is was the old partnership revived (=Axl rejoined it), did S&D join the new one or maybe a third was formed, that now owns all the rights to trademarks, etc. of the NITL tour alone? I think revenue splits from this tour can be either added as an amendment to old partnerships or can be handled in a separete document that does not at all depend on the stipulations of the former agreements between A&D&S.
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Lol, just watched this and I kinda think Axl and Moby don't fit together
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Russia Invades Ukraine
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German reliance on Russian gas is their CHOICE, not necessity. (by "their" I mean the politicians, not average folk in Germany). Pushing for Nord Stream, shutting down all nuclear plants (that provided them with energetic independence) and now even trying on the EU forum to push for gas to be classified as "clean energy" - that all paints a very clear picture. Not to mention positions in russian gas companies for german politicians...