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4 minutes ago, Skamos66 said:
something might be on my channel soon
Your AI's are very bad and my friend thinks you're just plugging your channel.
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1 minute ago, Jw224 said:
I'm so surprised that it has a different vocal take lmao
I'm not really sure why. There was a picture of him in a studio a month ago. It was obviously to record vocals. You think he and Slash were just having a yank session with some engineers?
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25 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:
What reasons make you think the way you do. Axl didn't soundcheck tonight
Because this is literally exactly how Absurd happened 2 years ago. We never heard Axl soundchecking it, literally no one saw it coming, they played it at the Boston show on a Tuesday (also like the 2nd or 3rd show of the tour if I remember correct), then in NJ 2 days later they said it would be released at midnight. So that is the pattern that makes it a reasonable guess that it appears tonight.
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1. Reunion with Izzy and Steven and Matt. The tour should have always been Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Matt (with Steven either playing an Appetite encore every night or just coming on to play the Appetite songs during the show), and Izzy should be getting the same money as Axl, Slash and Duff. He wrote the fucking songs, and even if you're not missing him being up there, he should be there with them. Its nothing against Fortus or Melissa or Frank (well ok, I couldn't care less about Melissa and I just don't like Frank's drumming), but the reunion lineup should have always been Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Steven guesting, and Dizzy if Axl insists.
2. An honest to god new album. NOT of Chinese leftovers, not cover songs. Write some fucking new material, which everyone besides Axl is clearly still capable of doing and record them.
3. A comprehensive Chinese Democracy box set. It was actually revelatory, and dare I say changed my mind about the entire Chinese endevour. When you hear the 200 songs back to back to back, you actually hear what he's going for, and the journey he took throughout that time (and by that time I mean like 97-2003 when the album was basically honed). Its fascinating, it vindicates Chinese which turned out to be a release that was just "here's what we have" and a hodgepodge that ruined what Axl was going for, and its truly pitiful that it took them finally being leaked for us to hear them. 500 people probably even care about them, put them out to us, and you could actually get a wider audience like those that enjoyed the recent Beatles documentary and such. There are great box sets for albums that underwent intense journeys like Pet Sounds, and Chinese absolutely deserves it. 6 discs or so of everything you have with a large booklet outlining the process.
4. A documentary similar to the Eagles doc, helmed by me of course, interviewing past and probably future GNR members knowing this insane group of people being honest about their history, with a home release that includes like 10 hours of bonus features about the Axl wilderness years, Slash's solo years, Duff's solo years, Velvet Revolver, Gilby Clarke's solo albums, Izzy's solo material, the porn films Steven Adler has made, the multitude of whales Matt has saved from slaughter.
5. A true Use Your Illusion box set (and a redo of the Appetite one at that) as even though Slash said it I'm either skeptical it won't come out, or that it probably will and be another complete missed opportunity.
6. Start an online archive portal for Use Your Illusion tour and video audio that we know they have all of.
Do those then we can come back with another list, but those are the obvious key ones that need to be addressed.
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5 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said:
No Madagascar, Sorry and CITR tonight, but this was a great show, Axl sounded very good.
Never that big a deal to skip Chinese songs lol. I'd rather lose those than Shadow Of Your Love.
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Just now, smokingarthur said:
I’m in Florida (Naples) visiting my parents. I considered driving to the east coast of FL to see the show but I’m dead tired from the 50th anniversary Disney previews I attended over the last several days. I think I made the right decision.
Just curious, if you were considering it and are happy you didn't go, what did you expect to come out that hasn't?
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Slash and Myles Kennedy are the modern day Mick Jagger/Keith Richards. Steven Tyler/Joe Perry. If they have a new album out, you can damn well be sure I'll be first in fucking line.
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3 hours ago, Stryker said:
It gets the people talking...no such thing as bad press. It’s suuuuuper shitty, but at this point I think it’s what they’re teasing.
Its only shitty if people were paying attention. If they mislead 5 rabid fans online, I think they'll survive.
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29 minutes ago, kever20 said:
When I first heard it, I thought I had heard it before, too. I could not figure it out, but the guitar and drums sound familiar to me.
From the master list I guess I'm wrong. I thought maybe it would be like Three Dollar Pyramid that was Better just under a different name. I thought it was one of the other instrumentals in here with Tommy's vocals but I guess not.
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42 minutes ago, TheSeeker said:
Perfect! Thank you so much!
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I just got to the Tommy Demo #1. Can someone refresh for me, maybe I'm getting it confused. I feel like this track sounds familiar, so was there an instrumental version of this song but under a different name somewhere else in these leaks? I don't know, the instrumentation sounds familiar, but maybe everything here is just starting to sound similar.
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10 hours ago, DarkLotus1111 said:
The General didn't leak. Atlas Shrugged did though
Thanks! Its so hard to keep track of everything.
8 hours ago, jamillos said:I'm aware of Down by the Ocean, not Seaside.
Ah, my mistake. I'm thinking of Zeppelin. I know it was down by the something water.
4 hours ago, DownUnderScott said:Your hard drive shat itself, well because the majority of them were shit!
I liked anything with Axl’s vocals but the majority of other stuff was crap that millions of people around the world could probably come up with, given just a little bit of talent and a computer/studio. I’m really seeing why those leaks failed to make the final cut, most of it deserved to be buried in a storage locker.
I don't actually think they're shit. Its actually interesting to hear the process and what was clearly in his head at times. And honestly, some of them sound like they could be really cool songs if Axl only gave them the time of day. The instrumentals are not bad, but the only reason I deem them unessential and am deleting them after I listen is that if there's no Axl then there's zero CLASSIC GNR people. As you say, it really could just be ANYTHING you hear online, so if there's nothing uniquely GNR about it I'm getting rid of it. But I still think its interesting to hear and knowing who the people are playing its cool. I just don't think they warrant repeat listens. I'd rather teach my friend to play them and then record him if its just gonna be instrumental lol. You're totally right though that without vocals, its basically nothing.
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8 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:
Not counting multiple versions of the same songs, there was 42 songs (I think?) and 17 had Axl vocals. So about 40%
Cool, thanks!
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I'm seeing that it looks like MOST of the leaks were instrumentals? Which songs had vocals, Chinese ones that we already had included? Its interesting to hear, although most of the instrumentals I'll delete after once because, if it doesn't have Axl, its really got no REAL GNR people on it. Which is fine, I'm enjoying listening to these just to hear where Axl's head was at at the time. And the band sounds good. But just wondering what the percentage of the full leak package was vocals vs. non (like did only 20% of it have vocals)?
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The acoustic version of KOHD is the first thing I just heard when I got the big pack of leaks, and its honestly what made me keep listening on. I thought it was an excellent version of a song I'm relatively very sick of.
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Sorry to be an ass and late to the party, but just got a hankering to hear all the Chinese leaks that came out last year and was wondering if there is a comprehensive list that has the full list of songs that leaked, as well as the alternate titles that song used to be known by.
I don't need like "Atlas Shrugged, ver. 4, Atlas Shrugged, ver. 17", just the full list of songs that actually got produced, like Oh My God, Atlas Shrugged, Hard School, etc. Additionally, I was wondering if that list could also have all the working titles those songs had, or the ones we knew them by. For example, how Hard School was what we knew to be Jackie Chan for all those years. The leak I have has a bunch of songs like The Rebel, Devious Bastard, etc, but no titles like Blood In The Water, The General, Down By The Seaside. All those titles we referred to these songs by for years. I believe The General is Atlas Shrugged, but just wondering if there's a list that has that info so I could follow along while I listen.
Appreciate in advance!
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Oh well. It was bound to happen.
So this is the worst Slash album. Easily. Its not even a contest. Contraband is a classic, Ain't Life Grand is a classic, Its 5 O Clock Somewhere has a ton of incredible songs. I've liked all 3 of Slash's solo albums. I know they aren't anywhere near classic level but they are all different and all represented more than I thought Slash was capable of. I love Myles but I've always understand the generic comments and the whining comments. I think his work on Apocalyptic Love and World On Fire is really good though. Sure it limits Slash a bit but overall it serves his purpose and I've never thought it hurt him. Its just not quite as good as it could be. Then you have Libertad, which is fine. Again, enough really good songs on there to not dismiss the whole album.
Where do I start with this record? I think the whole thing is an absolute mess. Right down to the cover art, right down to the album title. Obviously all of that is superficial but they don't help. And the album is just so damn forgettable. As I said, I've been the biggest proponent of Slash and his solo work, and Myles, but this seems like the laziest effort from all of them. The singles weren't very good. Mind Your Manners is the best of the lot and thats a FINE song. Its nothing special. Singles have never been their strengths though so I held out hope for the real record. Didn't help.
Its horribly uncreative and is by far the most bored I've ever been listening to Slash. I think I've reached the ceiling on Myles stuff. I'm sorry, I'm his biggest supporter with Slash, I think he's an all around incredible guy, but this album proves once and for all that he has one mode and that mode is just boring and tired here. His choruses have reached the point where they are completely predictable and his vocal delivery and the vocal melodies he comes up with are all exactly the same. I couldn't believe in whatever song it was (Driving Rain or My Antidote) when I heard "you're the dark to light..." He's stealing bad lyrics from himself?! And then also in My Antidote when he copies the exact beginning chorus from either Too Far Gone or Wicked Stone (or both and I'm just now realizing they are the same). Thats just pure and simple laziness or that he is incapable of thinking of something else original and that to me is very sad. And then the La Las in whatever song it was (The One You Loved Is Gone?) which harken back to Battleground? Just too many familiar territories in what sound like poorer versions of songs they've already done that it really turned me off.
I'm harsher on Myles but Slash doesn't really help himself on this record either. He goes off a couple good times but overall the playing just sounds lazy and uninspired. There's usually a ton of guitar stuff that jumps out at me on a Slash record and none of it was memorable to me on three listens. I don't know if there have ever been songs on a Slash record I've wanted to skip but he's found them with stuff like Lost Inside The Girl, The You Loved Is Gone and The Great Pretender. Its a sad but expected situation from a band that I don't think is done but this is a troubling sign. I never wanted this to become a thing Slash just does in his offtime from GNR (where he's not creating ANY new music) and I get nervous about what this is becoming. Cause this album and now combined with the live shows which are now simply playing what are the usual Slash and Myles fare has really changed what was always exciting about this band. The albums, while admittedly never groundbreaking, were always fun and showed a growing Slash, and the live shows used to be incredible. A trip through Slash's truly under-appreciated catalogue of work that always had a great deal of setlist difference night to night. I knew as they got more original material they would stick to that, and now its simply new material and then the "staples" off of each preceding album with a smattering of new tracks. Not my cup of tea, although I'm sure it'll still be fun. But an incredible period in Slash's career does seem to be over. I so miss hearing this band crank out Snakepit material and covers and all the other fun stuff that made a Slash show not to be missed.
Don't mean to sound too tired but no reason to beat around the bush. I always give Slash the benefit of the doubt. To me, this is just not good and I'll be curious to see if he adds more songs to the show or not. I don't even know where rotations would go in this tour. Very sad. Hopefully the new songs sound better live but this truly seems more like an obligation than an act of joy at this point.
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Just now, OmarBradley said:
Dropping in a new solo and lead licks here and there does not constitute a "re-record."
Are we living on the same fucking planet?! You steadfastly maintained the WHOLE THING was untouched. And now suddenly a little tinkering doesn't constitute re-recording?! Re-recording is re-fucking-recording! You lay down anything and you've re-recorded something. Thats the fucking point. You're all so fucking insane. I want my money whore.
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2 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:
Why don't you suck my dick?
Duuuuuude, why are you being such a diiiiiiiick?!
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Just now, OmarBradley said:
I only got to listen to gnr.fm the other night and I'm at work today. I just pulled up both the new and old recordings on YT, and did as much A/Bing as I could in the office.
I maintain the position this is absolutely not a re-record. BUT, Slash's solo does sound different from the one on the previous SOYL recordings we've heard. Won't get to hear the full tracks until later tonight, but it seems some light recording was done for this.
Kill yourself. $10 please.
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4 hours ago, Axl_morris said:
Shadow is the greatest song ever made.
..You would think after the amount of times I've listened to it today.
Why are you such a hater?
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@OmarBradley (just saw that new avatar. So you've been here) is so over the moon positive its not re-recorded that I think its hysterical. Mainly because its not even a question in my mind that it has been, but he's just so sure about something we could NEVER definitively prove one way or the other. I find it hysterical. Rolling Stone told you its from 1986, ok I believe that! I think the new single sounds fantastic, re-recorded as it is.
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Apologies if this has been posted. This is not meant to cause an argument. I love Shadow Of Your Love, I think this recording sounds phenomenal.
But what is the concensus on it being re-recorded? To me, this doesn't sound like any version we have ever heard, it doesn't sound AT ALL like Adler to me, the production sounds way too good for it to be 30 years old (and different in the way that Appetite still sounds good) and to me the guitar playing sounds like Slash now and not back then.
Again, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I'm just curious what the over/under is on this. When I heard it last night my first thought was "this sounds fucking awesome, and totally re-recorded." Again, not that that bothers me in any way.
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