Facekicker

I think Axl has nothing to lose at this stage. Maybe if he fully embraced his psychotic side he could get people's attention again. It could be very theatrical. He could take a leaf out of Screamin' Jay Hawkins book and go full crazy with interesting results. I think he should stop holding back and really show his true colours onstage. He even has the skull cane like Screamin' Jay, although his smokes a cigarette which makes it that bit cooler.

Maybe even Buckethead would be interested in rejoining for a full on weird album.

I suppose the worst thing some rasta can do when he tries to force his religion on you is what...smoke a bowl and get high?

I think all religion is ridiculous but I don't care what anyone believes so long as they don't try to force it on me, either personally or through influencing the law of the land.

You want to worship a tree stump in the shape of the virgin mary? Off you go, just don't fucking make it my problem.

Utter looper. Trout Mask Replica is what you get when you have Frank Zappa as producer and a shitload of drugs.

I like to put this on whenever I'm throwing a houseparty just to fuck with people

Why did you open another thread to discuss the album?

http://theworstalbum...ocracy-released

This review pretty much sums up the view of the album outside of Fanforum nerdland.

"Chinese Democracy is an ambitious, widescreen album, but that fact only gives it an even higher perch to fall from. It’s big, bloated and absurd, and it truly, embarrassingly feels like an album that took over ten years and thirteen million dollars to create.

Rose retains many of his signature vocal tics and tries to sound like his familiar self, but the years have clearly not been kind and his voice is haggard, hoarse and grating. He barks and squeals in a generally cringe-inducing manner on “Better”, occasionally unleashing a scratchy, tinny screech. He croons gruffly on “Sorry”, and briefly, inexplicably tries on a phoney accent. Even putting aside the unpleasant ways in which Rose’s voice has changed over the years, it’s amazing that an album that took so much time and effort could produce such lackluster vocal performances. In truth, it’s only when Axl is trying feebly to impersonate himself that his voice is even remotely bearable.

A lot of Chinese Democracy is devoted to recapturing past glory. Though Slash and his original bandmates were sloughed off during the recording process, Rose fills the album with pale imitations of the squiggling guitar riffs, soaring solos and melodramatic strings that once defined the band. It’s a tired, entirely irrelevant style and it simply draws even more attention to how far removed the band is from it’s heyday.

Axl’s attempts at updating the band’s sound only worsen things. There are constant remnants of experiments that must have felt relevant at some point during the decade long recording process, touches of trip-hop, 90s electronica, eastern music and other hilariously dated signifiers. Tracks like “Madagascar” sound like someone grafted a piss poor GnR cover band over the kind of generically hip “world music” you hear in hotel lobbies.

The album is littered with half-assed political sentiments which feel as out of touch as the music. The title track is–as Rose has almost admitted himself–an ultimately shallow and confused expression of the well observed and earth shaking idea that the Chinese government isn’t particularly nice. Most ofChinese Democracy’s songs concern Axl Rose’s own bitter feelings and loneliness. He seems very much aware of the mess he’s made of his life and career, but more concerned with his own hurt feelings than those of all the people he’d left behind since his misguided oddyssey began.

It’s gotta be tough to be a Guns N’ Roses fan. I can sympathize somewhat as a fan of The Avalanches, but Chinese Democracy’s torturously protracted gestation and disappointing release feel uniquely insulting, as if Axl Rose decided in 1993 that he hated his fans and would spend the next decade-and-a-half making them miserable. Of course, I imagine that in reality the only person who could be more miserable over the whole thing than the fans is Axl himself. He probably isn’t though, as he seems like a remarkably self-absorbed person.

However Axl feels, it’s clear that the band he founded will never be on top of the world again, and the story of Chinese Democracy has already become one of rock’s most infamous, absurd and embarrassing. Frankly, I’m shocked he hasn’t been sued by his record label, considering the album’s pointlessly exorbitant budget and underwhelming sales. Guns N’ Roses has continued to tour and continued to stir controversy, and Axl has supposedly been working on new songs. Who knows, maybe we’ll get to hear them before the end of the decade."

The lack of promotion thing is also another fanboy concocted myth designed to excuse the albums failings.

CD was the most talked about and anticipated album in decades, possibly ever.

If you didn't know it had finally been released then you were either off-planet or in a coma.

You mean...that is not Ashba? Fuckin' LOL

I've yet to meet a single person outside gnr nerddom that thinks it is a success. Or even a decent album in its own right.

Axl's plan to rule again with NuGNR went tits up so now we are seeing the great retirement plan in action.

There is a reason why India isn't top of any successful bands touring wishlist.

Ok I will. Thanks.

Well they got one thing right...Axl stuffing his face. Is that what we will see next...Axl munching on a sandwich in the middle of jungle?

What next? Ashbaswag Burkas in Pakistan?

Axl Rose trips over cane. Breaks hip. Blames Slash.

If you nerds want to buy it cough up - http://www.alexandermcqueen.com/menswear/mens-accessories/SKULL-HANDLE-CANE/804457370,en_US,pd.html

Maybe he'll get one of those bimbo's to shove it up his ass so he can get hard.

NuGNR just went full retard.

Yeah but Casino Royale WAS presented as a reboot, Dench or not. Quantum of Solace was a direct follow on of the story. Now they have just thrown all of that interesting development away. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a great Bond film apart from that. I just think they fucked up by screwing the continuity aspect unnecessarily.

Yeah but it just starts to look ridiculous continuity wise.

I like how it was introduced in Casino Royale

but with Skyfall it doesn't make sense continuity wise to

have the exact same model care, in storage suddenly tricked out like the one from Goldfinger and then getting destroyed at the end. If they bring it back all tricked up again it is just kind of dumb. There was no need to destroy it in Skyfall. None. They should have left it well alone so that it can reappear again as needed. Can't believe the producers let that one happen.

I still can't believe what they did to

the Aston Martin DB5

They should be dragged across hot coal for that. What are the implications for future movies?

Very fucking annoying.

I don't believe in god or GNR anymore.

It is silly to believe in things that don't exist.

Regardless of the source, the point he made stands.

There is no album.

Axl is just going to tour until his pension reserve is satisfactory and then he'll retire to his mansion for good to spend his days eating lamb dinners and admiring his hat collection.