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Personally I didn't seek any leaks out and listen to them. For me most would be new songs I also think it wouldnt be fair for those that did to be upset cause the band didn't release those songs and just cause you heard it before doesn't mean they can't release them now. Those who heard these songs know they heard it through leaks not officially so it's on them and I'm sure most know and understand that.

Tom so glad you have been enjoying.

On 8/5/2021 at 11:40 AM, GNRfanMILO said:

But we all know he tries on stage! There's no doubt about that. It's the least thing he can do.

What probably anyone here wants is for him to try, while off the stage. Preparing for a tour, and not using the first show as a rehearsal. He'd sound so, so much better.

It never fails to come here and find Fans criticizing and analyzing every single thing about his voice based mostly off of a video they saw and again I say mostly but even worse to talk about rather he prepares or tries when everyone has always said how much Axl puts into preparing for each concert with vocal exercises and things. I would like to think his own band members have a better idea of this than people on the internet.

On 7/29/2021 at 7:59 PM, double talkin jive mfkr said:

100% its so funny how much the camp tries to paint axl as the most sober one when really it is not the case 

weiland and axl are basically the same person 

i would say weiland held his own as far as being a rock star is concerned and made axl feel like nothing during the VR days 

when conversely axl during UYI definetely was getting fucked up, theres no way he was sober or not on drugs with how skinny he was 

furthermore the last 15 years he's by far the most fucked up one of the OG crew so he's a hypocrite in a sense if he were to ever try and pull that kind of card, which im sure he doesn't or wouldn't with someone like steven 

i think slash is drinking again though 

I mean doesn't Slash and Duffs books also state Axl was the only one not addicted and more clean and how he disnt allow drugs during certain times etc? It's not just management but even while Slash and Duff spun stories they made it clear Axl was not an addict and if memory serves me he even used to sit by Slashs bedside when he overdosed according to Slashs book.

Axl himself has said he has used various drugs but refused to allow himself to get a habit or addicted or let it interfere with GnR etc. He never maintained he is innocent or never did things. 

Him taking a hit off a Marijuana joint is hardly anything considering it's legal in many States now

Loving that they played Dead Horse and I think it sounded good for a first time song for the tour.

I thought this guy said he contacted the band was paid money for the music back and signed agreements. Once the music then leaked he was in violation of what he signed and the band gave him the money for nothing. Now of course he is saying others he bought with leaked it but oddly he was the only one I know of to sign off on things.

There is more to this than there seems. 

On 10/13/2019 at 7:35 PM, Caedo said:

Pretty surprised that This I Love is the most streamed track on CD, got a few hundred thousand more plays than the title track and I don't think it was ever even a single (was it?) or definitely at least not the first single off the album

I am not surprised look at November Rain.

The song is beautiful.

I am still catching up in this thread as I had a busy weekend but I want to say something before I do as I am sure there are many comments about it here as usual.

The reason why some bands choose to play mostly the same set list only varying a little Is because being honest it's a different crowd at each show usually. They keep in mind that not everyone is following them all over the world watching concerts. Sure there are some who travel several times a year but in reality the percent is not as high as some think. Now if you saw a show in let's say Chicago and a week later they played another show with a different set list some fans would complain as they missed songs that were played. They are more likely to only change 1 or 2 in the set due to this In my opinion. 

Now I know someone will say but they been touring a few years now most have seen them once atleast. I am going to say still not entirely true as they mostly have not been doing many repeats at venues but the percent is higher.

It also makes it much easier when you have a set amount of songs you know you will play and some alts for those times you want to switch up a song or two. This way in an already tight schedule they do not have to worry with constant set changes. The band as a whole will know what songs can be played.

The average person does not follow the band all around the world. I would wager a guess that if the concert was polled over half would be seeing them for the first time on the tour at least.

And it seems just like SoYL was added last time and played some of the other alts will be cycled in as well. 

Yesterdays and Madagascar I love it.

8 minutes ago, downzy said:

I would disagree.   From my perspective it resembles more like a family-run business.

I will say that TB gets frustrated about the same things fans get frustrated about.  I think we give them way too much agency relating to what can be accomplished with an artist like Axl.

This

Well said.

This is not actually easy to do. So the ones I list first are always my favorites

Don't Cry Alt version

Night Train 

Patience

This I Love

Civil War

Honorable always faves

The Garden, Don't Cry, SCOM, TWAT, November Rain, Estranged 

Listening to lately more

Madagascar, Yesterdays, Rocket Queen,You ain't the First, Live and Let Die

The first list and honorable faves I always listen to the second list is ones I listened to today as well.

I have not listened to any of the leaks though with them adding the one  to the set list I have thought about listening to it but I am still conflicted🤣

Estranged was hard for me because it is one of my all time faves but a few I added to 1st list get played more lately so I put it in honorable faves. I of course think This I Love us a beautiful song and well done.

I voted Slash but I agree with others about it depends on what we are talking about here. 

I mean Slash is the best Guitarist for Guns and one of my fave guitarists but this does not take away from the talent of all the others on the list. 

There is something I like about all of them and Bucketheads skills can't be denied. I think they are all talented and I enjoy Fortus live performance. 

I think this poll surprised me to see many admit that others are great and even some saying better than Slash. While I still think that Slash is the best fit for GnR there are others on the list that bring other things to GnR I really enjoyed.

I also want to add to those getting mad some Ranked Izzy down read the question of the poll. It does not ask which guitarist is the best fit but the best GnR guitarist. It is also why I hesitated and almost chose differently in my first choice. 

Izzy is a great guitarist but many on the list could be better according to some people's opinions.

So slash confirms music being worked on and Fernando seems to have given a better idea of when it's coming and still there seems to be an issue.

Sometimes it is a case of darned if you do darned if you don't.

I really didn't take the time to read through his Reddit posts thoroughly but seems his lack of denial it is likely him. As his manager he has a right to release the information and I am betting he had ran this through Axl. I really do not understand how people make Axl into some guy who supposedly lives in the dark as his big bad management shields him from everything. This is not to say they do not attempt or ever have attempted to shield him but let's be serious here. Axl is no pushover. He is free to do and say what he wants. His management will operate how he wants not the opposite or they would not be management. This does not mean Axl controls how Fernando speaks but surely you guys do not really think TB control him, Axl of all people.

If he said album within 6 months then it is the plan. Why criticize him on one hand for how he speaks with fans then on the other say they do not communicate with fans. This is GnR not Back Street Boys. Sure it does not make it right for him to talk badly to fans but certainly he has a right when someone talks badly to him.

Being honest, I think that many had gotten criticism that had joined Guns during the breakup years and some more than others for whatever various reasons.

I put into mind the many times over Slash and Duff have openly stated how they feel about Frank or Fortus and yet fans still have something to say. Some of this goes with the territory as they are artists and we are fans but then again I do feel some Is overboard. 

I am not a member of any other fan forum for any bands but Guns and Ac/DC and I rarely am on that website but I have seen other forums and no other fans are like Guns fans. 

We are dedicated and sure we get frustrated but the shaming does happen. Whole threads are made about Axls weight at times. As much as we say they signed up for this when they became famous we are all still responsible as humans and as adults.

I can imagine it was not easy for him sure, but some fans even fat shame Axl so I do not think it's just because he was not Slash but most of it yes.

I am sure someone will not like my post and it is fine I been around here for years. 

I look around the world we live in today where some kid was bullied or called names and shoots up schools. I think people wrongfully assume once someone becomes an adult it's ok to bully them and call them names as if it's fine. Sure he was warned to never come to message boards and did but why must he even have to be? 

So my take yes some of it comes with the job and some was just overboard on some with things said. 

There is a difference in critiquing or expressing an opinion and say fat shaming or forms of bullying. 

He was not Slash he knew that but he was doing the job and doing something he loved. I can respect many who came and went in GnR and of course I preferred Slash to be there but it was never any of their faults he was not. As a fan I chose to find ways to enjoy the different things each one brought during their time with Guns and wait for the reunion which we have in most ways now.

17 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

I would be mad because they were an hour and a half late, played a shorter set than usual, and done nothing to change it up.

Well in all fairness it was discussed by people here they could not get everyone in the doors in time. They only opened doors an hour before show. The band waited until everyone was able to get inside then started shortly after. I reckon if all those people stuck outside still would have gotten in to find out the show was over an hour in they would have been mad too. 

So the lateness was a possible venue issue.

They got over 2 hours worth and this Is a warm up so it's not unusual for it to be a little shorter but more likely they had to make up the time lost waiting for fans to get inside.

So what have we learned tonight?

We learned that Beta or anyone in TB doesn't take Axls phone away or hide something from him as they clearly added that song to set list. I never believed that anyway he is a grown man and not a pushover either.

We learned the band is either trolling the leakers and those who listened to it or really intend to add it to the setlist at some point. Maybe even all three.

2 minutes ago, iftheworld said:

I honestly don’t want to hear any new material. They looked bored and sounded sloppy. Frank ruins everything and Fortus trying to shred is cringeworthy as hell. I’m just tired of this band. Thank God I found TOOL.

I wonder if Tool has a cool forum like this for you

Just now, Bansidhe said:

Do you always look at stuff related to your own work online though?

We already know he has in the past. I say yes and I am sure there was talk in the official camp they purposely put that in the alt list. He knows

Just now, Live Like a Suicide said:

I would’ve been pissed if I were one of the attendees who forked over a ludicrous amount of cash.

Why they were never promised new or leaked songs though I wish they would have played one I am happy for the alt list

1 minute ago, Homefuck said:

Really? How do you know that it was soundchecked and on the set list? 

There is a picture of set list further back 

Just now, Bansidhe said:

Wouldn't be surprised if he isn't even aware of them. Wouls Beta & co really want to tell him?

I am pretty sure Axl has a cell phone and a mind of his own.

Stream ended 😩

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Periscope gone?

I like this KOHD