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6 hours ago, IncitingChaos said:

Or maybe Izzy felt Axl couldn’t properly set aside his “touring band” for a few songs to let the original lineup have their moment. And knowing Axl has no plans post tour to record with this lineup and is simply out making the money rounds but couldn’t be bothered to talk and find a financially acceptable way to make it work. 

If Axl can go out and make the money then we shouldn’t knock Izzy for not showing up due to money. 

Sorry I meant absolutely Izzy and Adler have rights to royalties and money made of AFD.

i was answering the title question not the post in the thread question. The title ask if Izzy and Steven have financial rights 

So you must have missed Axl's intwrview where he said he's shown some songs to Slash and Duff and it is up to them if they record with him. 

21 minutes ago, ramsey said:

VERY fucking cool. Glad everything was returned in proper condition. When you're ready you should share what materials of your made it into the set. I am saving up for one!

That was a poster on another forum.

Very cool though

I chose Super Deluxe. I was willing to do $650 but $1000 not so much.

If It goes down a bit I'll get Locked n Loaded. If it stays 1000 I'll go with Super Deluxe. I want the book for sure.

I may also end up with some of it digitally as well. 

3 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

Strange to erase it, why not just bleep out the very few “offensive” words.

It's not been erased. It's still on the album it was intended for which isn't AFD.

20 hours ago, LovelessNL said:

Well I guess they could squeeze another leg before Slash goes on the road with SMKC? His first date is in September or so, right?

 

Would love an arena leg here in EU, not sure why they would do another US leg unless they drastically change the set/show or Izzy and Steven return.

Or Guns can tour in the same areas as them. They could book their tours around Guns or vice versa.

I love it. It sounds a little slower than other versions which I don't mind. I also think this has a mix of old and new on it. I'm gonna guess at least some is new vocals guitar etc.

3 minutes ago, ludurigan said:

dont you think the wooooh wooooooh backing vocal parts sound exactly the same as in this version below?

to me they sound absolutely identical (but much clearer) on this new version

 

That could be part of the old. 

I agree with others it sounds like new and old. They may have rerecorded some to make it cleaner and tighten it up a bit.

6 hours ago, Asia said:

I'm afraid, in the best case, it will be filled with Fernando's notes and stories There'll be lyrics, pictures and an abundance of stupid facts or whatever other bullshit. If Mr Axl was ready to make an effort and share some interesting stories, he'd write a book and sell it on its own.

You are joking, right? If Axl's current voice was like that, we would be in a wholly different world

Axl said last year sometime he wanted to write a book but thought it was best not to now.

No need to get fans all in a bunch over Axls side ane cause issues in the band again.

9 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

If the video gets past 200K today, it'll go on the Trending list on YT too, which tells the band - 
There IS demand for material ! Pull the finger out....
This all done with minimal promo from the actual artist again...

Over 300k right now

1 minute ago, Kasanova King said:

Nice!

I might hold off for a while.  I have a feeling the Locked & Loaded Version may not sell as well as they think.  Maybe it gets reduced to something like $500-$600 in a few months.  

For starters, they would need 10,000 super die hard fans.  Then, they would need 10,000 super die hard fans with $1k and willing to spend it on a GN'R box set.

It's one thing shelling out $1k for VIP seats when you haven't seen your favorite band after 25 years but it's another thing paying $1k for (essentially) a chest, some posters, stickers and an extra vinyl or two....when you can still get all of the music for $30. 

They may have seriously overestimated their market on this one.  I personally know a bunch of people that bought those VIP/$1k+ seats and I'd say the majority of them were casual fans (with money) that wanted to see them live and in good seats....no way those people are buying a $1k box set.

Anyway, I guess we'll see soon enough.

 

You might have a point there. I think I'm gonna try to hold out before reserving mine as well.

I was intending to do it today but waiting a while longer won't hurt anything.

If I can get that bix set a few hundred cheaper I'll jump on it if not back to Super with the book.

32 minutes ago, Chris 55 said:

Seems like it's just trolling from non-fans who weren't buying the set to begin with. No matter the product, if people don't like the price of something, you'll always get these trolling comparisons. 

Oh no I have a friend who is buying the 1000 version and he actually told me if he can spend 300 on a pair of shoes then he can spend 1000 on this.

When I told him I was in for the 650. He laughed and said the difference is only a new pair of shoes or two.

15 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

Clearly what the record company was hoping for.

I had a few people today tell me its new. Two out of the three I would have considered huge fans. Not everyone is into the internet one told me when I told him Shadow wasn't new.

Out of those three one is gonna pay the 1000. The other 2 preordered the Super Deluxe Edition.

My nephew who is 16 called to tell me that band I love released a sick arse new song. 

I'm loving that people of all ages are getting into the song I guess. 

7 hours ago, Kasanova King said:

I was actually considering doing the $650 as well....but after realizing that this is basically Universal's way of cashing in on the reunion, I'm out as well.  I'll probably get the music when it streams on Amazon, which I subscribe to...so won't cost me anything more than what I already pay now. 

I've settled on the Super Deluxe. I want the book as well.

It seems many if us were willing to pay the $650.00. I'm wondering if the price of 1000 is really out of their hands and more the label.

I'd be curious to know where Mitch got the original price he mentioned from. 

21 minutes ago, Kasanova King said:

I just did the math.  According to those old rumors, the record label supposedly lost around $10 million on Chinese Democracy.  $1000 per box set X 10,000 units is $10 million dollars.  Coincidence?  

Likely not and this also would free them up I believe to release another album on their own in the future.

Didn't they owe one more release? 

18 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

I'm into lithos and think these are neat but they arent nearly as alluring as a show one. 10000 of these boxes are going out. Thats a ton

It is but its being offered to a much bigger market than say a concert Litho.

2 minutes ago, GNR 1991 said:

Shadow sounds good. Wouldn't mind them dusting it off for the upcoming Euro leg. I don't know why people think release has any bearing on future original material being released. This is just something to tide people over while Axl/DC and Slash's solo take over 2019.

Why is the Shadow single not on Apple Music yet?

Remember Axl's comments on twitter comparing the Apple guy to Trump. Sorry his name escapes me right now.

He was upset about the whole album thing

I'm in for the Super Deluxe version atvthe very least. I convinced myself I could treat myself to the whole thing at 650 but at 1000 I'm not sure. 

I happen to love the art that comes with it and those Lithos will be a great addition to the few I've picked up from concerts but that price is making me cry.

22 minutes ago, downzy said:

$1000 for a box of music and merch is a lot of money.  

But keep in mind that there are people out there who have the kind of money that spending $1k on something like this is no big deal.

For others, like myself, it's a luxury that would be nice to have but in no way financially justifiable.

The Lithos will also attract buyers.

I know people are looking at the price but I've known people to pay good money to get their hands on Lithos they wanted. Collectors of the Lithos will be jumping on this. 

I once cringed at a friend who paid a few hundred for a Litho just because of the artwork. Of course he generally is able to get them at concerts he attends at a decent price. Those Ebayers suck.

Thinking of the face value of Lithos at concerts and add into the fact that there is only one way to get these and they've never been released to the public easily they will enjoy this. 

I think at 650 they would have sold out very fast. 

5 minutes ago, tony adler said:

Anyone been monitoring radio stations? I’m in Ohio, so I don’t know what time that would be by Australian timezone( they keep saying Friday so we’ll see🤔

Im in Ohio as well my local radio station has been talking on and off about it. I believe its midnight which is basically Friday

3 minutes ago, quikspade said:

Where is this Locked & Loaded confirmation for $650? The only concrete numbers anyone has is $179, $19 and $13, all from Amazon. Curious though how much was Metallica’s MoP remaster?

There isn't any concrete evidence forbit right now. 

14 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said:

The context suggests Appetite years only. Though many UYI songs were, as we all know, written during the early years. 

That's what I was looking at. We already know a lot of Illusions came from that era and CD likely started around Illusions era.

They have always talked about holding certain songs back that didn't fit in with an album for example. 

I just don't think we can narrow down a year here honestly.

I mean look at November Rain. It started pre GnR and was worked on for a long time before being put on The Illusions album.

I feel it's less likely it will come from CD times but I mention that era as there was many songs that didn't make the album. 

I want to add it wouldn't be odd for a box set like this to contain what would be new songs or a new song. In fact if they only wanted to release a song or two at this time it would be the perfect time to maximise on it.

Just now, NOVEMBER COMA said:

Everything is in the box relating to AFD including 49 unreleased tracks (not necessarily unheard music, just unreleased). Google: Locked & Loaded Unpacked. 

Prices rumoured at $650USD for the whole lot or $180USD for a stripped version 

June 29th 

Don't know 

And unreleased can mean so many things. 

It could mean unreleased from AFD or Illusions time. It could mean CD era songs unreleased.

I still say there's a chance we get something we haven't heard before. 

7 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

I cant remember if this was mentioned by killuridols, but i can understand axl wanting to hold off with releasing reckless road....which means during the cd lineup axl was onboard or had ideals of releasing something like this later down the track. So much for not being defined by one album. Not bitching but ill be buying this.

The Reckless Road release is interesting and he probably did.

Of course many assume it was just a stab at Canter but perhaps it was more than that as you suggest

People always complain about how they dont promote things and when they try to do something fun with the fans and promote it people still aren't happy.

I thought it was fun especially for those that went to the music stores. 

I'm going to hold out on checking Amazon until I see actual price on this one.

It would be great if it wasn't 650. 

Does anyone think new songs will be on here? I mean it's hard to tell what they mean by unreleased. 

Very excited and will be getting this.

Axl's picture collection will be great to see and the actual box looks great too. This is very well put together from what I can tell.

Isn't there another version of Don't Cry Axl wrote?