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7 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

How well served by archival live releases are The Eagles?

PS

I'm not one to contradict you but I just pulled up Eagles' bootlegs within 30 seconds of looking.

Yeah, I've been listening to a fair bit of Eagles lately and at work have been able to go on YouTube and listen to random bootlegs.

Senna and Mad Max

10 hours ago, wasted said:

Close enough.

He does a great slide tackle but he’s old. Arsenal have so much attacking options do they really need Bellerin. Lichtsteiner looks like a pretty solid defender. Maybe in prem he’s like a centre back. 

 I think Mhkitaryan is wrong too? 

I was surprised that Lichtsteiner chose England, I don’t think he has the legs anymore. But he’ll bring such experience and the fans will love him - he’s a prick unless he’s on your team.

15 hours ago, wasted said:

I misspelled mispelt Mikatariyan. I think I got Lichensteiner right bcos of my photographic memory for nazi sounding names.

Nope. Lichtsteiner.

Just finished reading Senna Versus Prost, which I quite enjoyed.

On 7/21/2018 at 12:56 PM, Juventino said:

Commando is the best thing to ever hit the screen.

Sorry, I was wrong here. Commando is actually the best thing to drop out of a moving aeroplane on to the screen.

Now you'll have to excuse me, I'm dead tired.

Commando is the best thing to ever hit the screen.

17 hours ago, wasted said:

You can drink in hotels and some shops sell black plastic bags to carry cans around. But it’s just a weird atmosphere you can’t get properly paraletic in these places. 

World Cup Xmas Santa Coca Cola? My money is on the USA to win it now. Have also consider Italy and Holland will be back in the mix. 

Definitely, it won't be the same. Not exactly looking forward to it and I'm thinking I'd rather go to Euro 2020, although that too won't have the same tournament feel given it's being played across Europe.

52 minutes ago, wasted said:

Pogba and Kante will be knackered in 4 years. So will Griezmann. Giroud has just secured a loan spell to Everton. 

My guess is Germany will do well at Euros then be back by 2022. But Qatar is hot as fuck and you can’t drink beer there. No place to hold a football tournament. 

The World Cup will be in November/December, so there won’t be a heat concern. And I heard that they will allow drinking in fan zones, but that’s it.

Total Recall. Love me a good Arnie flick.

No, and I probably won’t. Only names I’ve had on my shirt in recent years are Del Piero, Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli, Buffon, Marchisio and Dybala. And I kind of broke my own rule with Dybala.

Mentioning Greece had nothing to do with the 2004 Olympics, but their European Championship win.

Which was already mentioned.

But @DieselDaisy , forget Brazil, Italy were the first to retain the World Cup.

Whoever France play, I’m thinking surely they won’t mess up two finals in a row? 

I buy the new Juventus shirt each season and get a name, but it's usually only the club stalwarts. Can't have somebody who leaves after two years or something like that.

9 minutes ago, wasted said:

That might be true in Serie A at that time, I was really talking about Diego’s show reel of dribbling from early in his career. Compared to modern players who at 20 are playing Champs league games. 

But in the Serie A from what I saw, the pace was slow, it was tight and diving was an art. The pace of the prem and the physicality means that skill players, dribblers get tired or injured pretty quick. The pitches too are basically mud half the season. Just playing long balls up becomes a necessity. Like if Diego played a season in England before that world cup he won he’d probably have been injured. Rooney was always dead by the time he got to WCs. 

The 1980s pitches in Italy were also fucked come winter time. Didn’t mean you have to resort to kick and rush.

Maradona took some terrible punishment in Spain and Italy. There were some very physical players there too. For example, look at who Lineker - and Maradona - say was the toughest defender they ever faced, it was Pietro Vierchowod.

It may have been slower, and still is, but it’s tactically far ahead. Nobody was giving players space.

10 minutes ago, wasted said:

That doesn’t matter, there were games where the oppo rolled over. But for example Gazza left England because he was getting kicked to pieces. In Italy the skill players are protected. Prem is getting better though now. But in 90s it was pretty industrial. Flair players don’t get much protection. There’s a lot of English players that the FA won’t allow in the team because they don’t want England associated with it. But that is why most of the famous England pkayers are just powerful mids, not dribblers. 

The likes of Maradona were far from protected in Serie A. They got kicked every game. Guys like Gentile and Passarella weren’t about flowers and sunshine. 

Smaller teams were hard to get something against because they could defend! Not the other way around. You’d be hard pressed to find many results, aside from the odd rubbish team here and there, like you do these days (especially where Barcelona and Real Madrid are concerned).

And there was no single greater concentration of talent in one league as in Italy. Probably since, too.

14 hours ago, wasted said:

Those leagues are always half strength though. So he was dribbling around teams full of rubbish players. He was amazing player but still he wasn’t playing top teams every week, so a lot of the videos come from those matches. And he was on performance enhancing drugs. 

Oh FFS. Name a better league in Maradona's time than Serie A.

I saw them in Adelaide in 2007 and 2010, and Wikipedia (not the best source, but I can't find any other figure right now) says 8000 for each show. Which would be close to sold out.

1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

Chap making the point that this will be the last summer of world football for a very long time as Qatar is some shambles in November. I don't consider football a ''summer sport'' (that is the time for cricket and tennis) but I see his point pertaining to this glorious entertainment.

Enjoy it while you can. 

At least there's the European Championship either side of it.

1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

Well they don't have the flair and samba (Brazil) which attracts neutrals and people searching for a ''second team'' because their own team has been dumped out, and they do not have a lot of Scottish people supporting them (Argentina). Uruguay are basically a poor man's Italy. 

 

And I hope Uruguay go on to win it!

The Bach era is fantastic.

43 minutes ago, killuridols said:

To be honest, I'm not sure what you are expecting or looking for.

I have never been to anywhere in Italy so I am clueless what Italian neighborhood looks like 

All I can tell about La Boca is that it is a major tourist attraction for foreigners but to me it is just a bunch of old conventillos painted in many different colors and surrounded by memorabilia stores and places to eat/drink, mostly designed for tourism needs than for locals.

Im not even sure if real people still live in those houses... there is a main little street called Caminito where the tourists concentrate for taking their pictures, buying souvenirs and watching some street tango dancers... and there's the port behind and an old bridge.

Ive heard from American tourist that La Boca resembles New Orleans.... but I can't confirm that either 

 

Well there were a whole lot of migrants from Genoa to La Boca and I've read that Genoese is still an oft-spoken language in the area (but maybe that has died down in recent years?), so thought it might have a bunch of restuarants, etc.

But anyway, back to the football - I'd like to see Uruguay go far. I don't think it will happen though. Argentina are another I'd like to see do well but they are all over the place at the moment. Here's hoping Brazil, Germany and England don't win.

4 hours ago, killuridols said:

I havent been there in more than a decade but from what I recall is as South American as it can get.

Not a place I'd choose to take a walk around expecting to see unicorns and rainbows 

There are some picturesque houses of many different colors and stores where you can buy some memorabilia of Boca, Maradona and Argentina.

You could use Google Street View to check it out.

 

Ah I see. Thanks!

6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

La Bombonera of course?

Apparently going to a Superclasico makes an Old Firm derby look a sedate game of Crown Bowls. 

It would be something to see that match!