AlexC

10 hours ago, Apollo said:

A fan doesn't have to worship every thing a band does to be considered a fan. Most of are die-hard fans of GnR. But we also are able to think logically and we don't just blindly worship everything he does. 

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Hammitt is 100% correct. GnR has released one album of original music in the last 25 years. 

What Metallica is doing or whether or not people like their songs has zero - literally zero - to do with lie favorite band just cashing in on songs they wrote 25-30 years ago. 

Being a fan doesn't mean you have to bash any musician who isn't worshiping Axl and company. 

Gnr has been a revolving door of musicians with Axl being the only constant. So it's a little disingenuous to say "this band has only been together for X amount of time. Give them time." As far as I know, Guns n Roses has been a band since the mid-80s. This current lineup is just the latest version. 

I knew it was a matter of time before some fuck hit me with the classic "a fan doesn't have to worship everything the band does" shit. I'm not doing that at all.

4 hours ago, starlight said:

Wow what a useless question....who cares about politics...

People who wish to have a say in their's and their family's future.

Typical just as he's about to blast that epic final Heaven's Door scream it buffers :/

6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Absolute rubbish. You are referring to the three disc 'deluxe version'. The main album, which retails at a cheaper price, is spread across two discs,
 

For slightly more you obtain this in addition to the above, as part of the deluxe version,

 

Okay... So that's what I said, minus the demos and a couple of unwanted covers I was correct. The original album tracklisting is 12 tracks. Not exactly a double album is it? Just because a bunch of them will be 8 minute snoozefests doesn't change that.

3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Rubbish. It is two compact discs/vinyl.

Yeah maybe the special edition, with an entire disc of more pointless live songs from that show they did at Rasputin record store on record store day. Oh and another disc of "demos" of the new songs. So yeah, you pay more for the same album twice, just one in shit quality. I think they've thrown that awful Lords of Summer in there too.

Did they do Civil War after Coma?

1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

I do not agree in the slightest. The Loads were quite different from The Black Album and rather varied and experimental.

GN'R (including Nugnr) do not have any new songs. The latest songs in their present setlist are eight years old! Metallica have three songs in their current set which are brand new and feature on their forthcoming record.

Yes, their setlist is still dominated by Appetite for Destruction, an album released 1987.

We've never heard the album outside three songs (it is a double record). Bit unfair to speculate?

Hardwired to self destruct is 12 tracks. Hardly a double record.

3 minutes ago, Gibbo said:

 

3 minutes ago, MrSoftie said:

Fantastic RQ.

Any live periscope links? The other two I was using died before and during Estranged.

~ When he ditched the cornrows.

~ The rare moments he ditched his hat.

Just now, Slash787 said:

Alexander, I am happy that they are touring, but working on a new album would be great too. 

And they probably will, but they're only on the second leg, I think it's fair to say they're gonna wait until the world tour is over before they collaborate and hit the studio. Remember, these guys notoriously didn't get along. They're back, and by all accounts they are getting along fine. If they're still getting along after a full blown world tour then I'm pretty confident we're gonna get a new album.

1 minute ago, Slash787 said:

I am not a Metallica fan, I just like 2 to 3 songs by them, they were just not my type, But I respect them for sticking together and putting out albums every 4 to 5 years or so. 

Kirk is a great guitarist and a great person too, We should accept the reality instead of bashing him. 

Now what is the excuse for some people on here? that GN'R back together so again delay a new album? that is not a valid reason, as fans we do want new music, its been a very long time. 

Axl, Slash and Duff are really talented, I am sure Axl has great melodies and vocals recorded, Slash has great riffs and solos and Duff can put his input on adding stuff. 

They can easily release an album in 3 months time. But will that happen? I don't think so. 

Honestly I see an AC/DC album with Axl coming out before a GN'R Album with Axl. 

No but is it not perfectly understandable why they'd choose to do a tour together first after not speaking of over 20 years?

3 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

Have fun guys

When's the show start, an hour or so?

More like, just under 4 hours I'm afraid.

11 minutes ago, jamillos said:

It's like everybody – including Hammett – is ignoring the fact that unlike with Metallica, there have been certain lineup changes in the GNR camp along the way... Like there is a whole new band right now. Doesn't that matter in any way?? And thus also comparing these two bands is equally ridiculous. Think, people, think.

Whatever Axl has or has not done up until 2014 has nothing to do with GNR 2016.

Yeah the reunion is a big enough thing to not include the years of no new music between Chinese and '14/'15. Although if they now take another 8 years to release something but still tour under this lineup then yeah, Kirk may have a point.

3 minutes ago, maynard said:

LOL, some pathetic GNR apologists here as expected. Kirk is correct. His only mistake is using the word 'somewhat'. It IS a Nostalgia Act. GNR fans are so bitter. Jesus! I guess that's why I don't post here so often aymore. This place is filled with teenager-like Axl asskissers.

You sir! Are a glass significantly less than half full.

4 minutes ago, maynard said:

Ok, I'll sink to your level of discussion. (Feeling a bit sorry for your limited abilities). Here we go.

It's bad. It's not GNR. I'm right.

Did I win? You certainly felt victorious after your amazing post, didn't you?

It was sarcasm. Don't menstrate all over the thread.

Just now, Chris 55 said:

Your post would be TOTALLY different if Hammet said something like: "GNR ROCKS! THEY'RE BACK!"

Of course it would. Why would I respond negatively to a compliment?

5 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

...3 quarters of the GnR fan base would kill for a Guns album that sounded like AFD. Does Moth into flame sound like a Kill em all song? I don't think so. Is the feel nostalgic yes! but it's new music! and finally yes, metallica and guns released albums in 2008, but Metallica recorded an all new album in between that time, GNR have a completed album (Axls words, not mine) that was almost finished in 2008... and they're still apparently nowhere near a release. Why? because they think the majority don't care, and that they can make just as much money on an nostalgia tour.

Moth Into Flame? Apart from the 4 seconds of melodic chorus it definitely sounds like Kill 'Em All. The verses are even structured almost identically to the bridge in Four Horseman.

Look, do I wish that GN'R had released more than one album in 25 years? Of course! But with this reunion happening there is not only a larger audience and appetite for a new album more than ever, but there's more chance of it being excellent more than ever. And I don't think for one second that anything Metallica are capable of releasing at this point can make them more relevant than GN'R.

15 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I'll change it from biggest rock band to biggest hard rock / metal band, besides that you don't have a point. Iron Maiden haven't been as big as Metallica since Metallica exploded in the early 90s. 

To be fair I may have gotten a bit carried away with saying Iron Maiden are bigger than Metallica. That'sa closer debate in Europe but certainly not in the U.S. But still, the amount of coverage that this whole GN'R reunion is getting is way more than Metallica and that's even with them releasing their first studio album in 8 years. Jealously on Kirk's part as Guns are now more relevant than Metallica, making more money, have happier fans and they haven't released any new material YET. Odds are too that when they do, it'll be a lot better received and get more appraisal that Hardwired to Self-Destruct will get.

10 minutes ago, Ifdworld said:

you're delusional, you're blaming the fact that because metallica was able to maintain a steady line up and that they actually put out new music and tour the world non stop? Metallica's catalogue is way bigger than gn'rs. Music is all a band can produce. when the time comes and axl and slash die, they'll be remembered by the music they put out. and Axl hasn't done much of that.

How is that delusional? Because I pointed out the fact that Metallica and GN'R have the same time gap between albums except one has a line-up change and the other doesn't? Come on. You can't listen to Hardwired and say with a straight face that it's not a sad attempt at recreating Kill 'Em All. It's the epitome of relying on Nostalgia. The reason I said the Melissa Reese thing was to just show you that yes, this is a reunion and it obviously makes people feel nostalgic. But it's also a legit stepforward and they're more relevant because of it than Metallica has been in 13 years.

1 minute ago, Towelie said:

They've had years to put together a new album... you talk about fans wanting new music "immediately"... ugh, it's been 8 years since Axl's last album, and 25 years since their last proper band record.

Kirk Hammett is bang on. GNR are a stadium Skid Row. Infact, that's an insult to Skid Row, because they still release new music. They're a stadium Poison.

Are you even a fan?

2 hours ago, maynard said:

Every CD thread is the same. Same excuses, same Rovim and wasted talking absolute shit about things they have no clue, "natural progression" - if adding hip hop beats and synth farts is the natural progression for Guns, I'm glad they broke up in the 90s. Yes, they broke up. CD is Axl's solo record. The only GNR thing about it is the name Axl chose for his solo project. Just like Trent Reznor chose NIN.

You know what is the natural progression? The drop-D Slither riff that still sounds like fucking hard rock. That's evolving without losing essence.

Natural progression my HUE-BR ass.

It's good. It's GN'R. You're wrong.