fridayfan13

lol this show is terrible we surely need a trip to the jungle but the chances of it happening are one in a million.

did you try to get 2 gnr references in there?

........tenacious d is performing.....FUCKIN A

i know, thats worth watching alone

I like the song "pick of destiny", and thats what they've been playing on like leno and stuff

sweet, what are the odds, i just finished watching some of the hbo stuff a couple of minutes ago

lol this show is terrible we surely need a trip to the jungle but the chances of it happening are one in a million.

did you try to get 2 gnr references in there?

........tenacious d is performing.....FUCKIN A

honestly, is this worth my time, i cant even hear out of my right ear at the moment because of a ear infection, so should i waste what little hearing i have on the hope that something happens?

great scott, your reading my mind and posting it lol

Must be a NY thing! rock2

well, i guess axl would probably like us

ok, so according to you Tommy Stinson, Richard Fortus, Robin Finck, Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Brain these guys are a "revolving door cast"? you must be new to gnr

that's the point. I'm not new to G'n'R - been one of my favorite bands since the late 80's and I can recite the lyrics of every song on AFD, Lies and both UYI's. no exageration.

but I (and tens of millions of other 'old' g'n'r fans) are new to this band. and if Axl (and these guys) are going to have comercial success, they need to take the old fans and turn them into new fans. a tour that draws from the old fans and introduces them to the new band and the new music is a good way to do this. and they are screwing it up - badly.

for those on this board who have religiously followed the last 6 years - those names you cite are no doubt household names. but you are probably 1% of the people that G'n'R needs to reach to make money as anything but a cover band. that is why they are having a tough time sustaining show attendance, and having to lower ticket prices.

and finally - even for me (a guy that has only been tracking the new g'n'r for a couple months now) it's clear that when you say Finck doesn't represent a revolving door cast, you are either being disingenuous or kidding yourself. Buckethead had that position only a few months ago, no?

Buckethead left some YEARS ago now.

But funny what you said about new music, since May I have been to 6 shows and have heard live everything new they have to offer. So that is hardly a valid argument anymore. If they play any more new songs it will comprise of the majority of the new album. Do you really want to go to a GNR show and hear ALL new songs? The regular fan wants to hear music they know (AFD, Lies, Illusion) mixed in with new material.

But I won't lie, they really need to release this album soon to even keep the fans they currently have.

But we are totally off topic now. I think midnight is pretty late to start a show and I really have no idea why for some of the shows there are up to 3 openers, it is overkill if you ask me. But I am aware of it and am able to accomodate myself when I know I am going to see GNR. I know a lot of people can't do this, though.

great scott, your reading my mind and posting it lol

ok, so according to you Tommy Stinson, Richard Fortus, Robin Finck, Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Brain these guys are a "revolving door cast"? you must be new to gnr

that's the point. I'm not new to G'n'R - been one of my favorite bands since the late 80's and I can recite the lyrics of every song on AFD, Lies and both UYI's. no exageration.

but I (and tens of millions of other 'old' g'n'r fans) are new to this band. and if Axl (and these guys) are going to have comercial success, they need to take the old fans and turn them into new fans. a tour that draws from the old fans and introduces them to the new band and the new music is a good way to do this. and they are screwing it up - badly.

for those on this board who have religiously followed the last 6 years - those names you cite are no doubt household names. but you are probably 1% of the people that G'n'R needs to reach to make money as anything but a cover band. that is why they are having a tough time sustaining show attendance, and having to lower ticket prices.

and finally - even for me (a guy that has only been tracking the new g'n'r for a couple months now) it's clear that when you say Finck doesn't represent a revolving door cast, you are either being disingenuous or kidding yourself. Buckethead had that position only a few months ago, no?

......................actually he didn't. you need to study up, no offense. Ron Thal joined the band in may, taking the place of Bucket(left officially in 04). luckily, Thal fits perfectly. the rest of the band has been there.

how are they screwing this tour up? 5* shows, a fair dose of new and fucking awesome material, and all the hits and a few obscure songs we love. that doesn't sound like a fuck up to me. sure, not everything is selling out, but this is only the first leg of the tour. the album will be out before the second leg, then you can expect sell outs across the board.

ok, so according to you Tommy Stinson, Richard Fortus, Robin Finck, Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Brain these guys are a "revolving door cast"? you must be new to gnr

Uhh, especially Dizzy. He's been in the band since 1990, he is hardly new. Hell, in a few years all of these guys will have been in the band longer than some of the original members, Dizzy already has. Robin has been around since 1997. Tommy since 1998. Richard since 2002. Pitman since 1998. Think about that.

my point exactly, these guys have paid their dues, and we owe them respect. i for one love these guys because they are the single most talented musicians playing today(and oh yes, better than slash. i said it. slash hasn't done a fucking thing worth hearing since UYI. hell, ill give him the benefit of the doubt, TSI?). there is not a better band out there, at all. the sad thing is, nobody really knows about them, or care enough to find out. but that will change very soon.

ok, so according to you Tommy Stinson, Richard Fortus, Robin Finck, Dizzy Reed, Chris Pitman, and Brain these guys are a "revolving door cast"? you must be new to gnr

listen fuckhead, im sick and tired of hearing worthless noobs like you diss axl and the unbelievable band both individually and as a whole. these guys bust their ass night in and night out, putting on 5 fucking star shows for your bitchy little ass. cd or no cd, it doesn't fucking matter, these guys put up with more shit than you probably ever will in your life. each band member has talent out the ass and all you guys see is a "cover band", and look no further. sure, we may be pissed about the album release, i know i am. but i also know that i will be so fucking happy with the result, that i will need $50,000 worth of plastic surgery to get the smile off my face. if you dont want to see the new band, fine, sell your tickets to someone who actually deserves to the band(and oh yes asshole, they are a real band). now please noob, sell your tickets and delete your fucking account.

calm down dude... is this a case of me hitting a little too close to home for you?

I never said they weren't talented. From what I've seen they're very talented. I just said that they're a cover band unless and until the release some original music. And they are irrelevant as a force in the world of music unless that original music is well received. and for you to say you know you'll be happy with the result is just asanine - and if you take off your rose-colored glasses you'll see that. It might be good, it might be average, it might be crap. only time will tell.

I never said they aren't working hard. And I'm still going to go see them - because I love the music. but I am saying that right now they are nothing more than a talented, hard-working cover band that are effectively serving at the pleasure of Axl Rose. And no amount of screaming "fuck you" and "asshole" is going to change my mind until the album is out.

i know ill be happy with the result because i, like 99% of the forum, am totally amazed by the new songs, they are brilliant and beautiful both lyrically and musically. how can you call these guys a cover band when they are working their asses off together on NEW FUCKING MATERIAL. JUST BECAUSE ITS NOT OFFICIALLY RELEASED DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST. by your standards, they will be a cover band until the moment the album hits the shelves? how fucked up is that. heh, i wonder what Tommy Stinson would say to that.

so THATS why they sued their fans..cause they CARE about them...gotcha! ill keep that in mind!

when Axl only calls us 'downloading motherfuckers' hmm...litigation vs name calling..hmm..who CARES more?

considering that he's trying to "re-introduce" the band when he's the only memberleft from the original, he's doing a pretty embarassing job of it. Unless the album is absolutely mind-blowing this will go down as a huge joke, imo.

little to no marketing - what ever happened to the so-called marketting agreement they had with Major League Baseball? was the single and the album supposed to be released during the World Series???

treating fans like shit by making them sit through hours of crap before they take the stage near midnight.

complete incompetence on the album release.

I feel like the idiot now - when I bought tickets, every one of my friends told me I was crazy. "Who the hell wants to go see Axl play with a cover band?" they said. I guess they were right.

listen fuckhead, im sick and tired of hearing worthless noobs like you diss axl and the unbelievable band both individually and as a whole. these guys bust their ass night in and night out, putting on 5 fucking star shows for your bitchy little ass. cd or no cd, it doesn't fucking matter, these guys put up with more shit than you probably ever will in your life. each band member has talent out the ass and all you guys see is a "cover band", and look no further. sure, we may be pissed about the album release, i know i am. but i also know that i will be so fucking happy with the result, that i will need $50,000 worth of plastic surgery to get the smile off my face. if you dont want to see the new band, fine, sell your tickets to someone who actually deserves to the band(and oh yes asshole, they are a real band). now please noob, sell your tickets and delete your fucking account.

don't get me wrong, i know people have lives, but if your going to see Guns N' Fuckin Roses, plan ahead. GNR is a rock band(unlike all "modern rock" bands like green day and nickleback), they will go on when they want, and come off when they want. if you don't like it, don't buy a ticket. its that simple.

look, if you parents are being asses about this, tell them to get off your back, your going to see your favorite band who you paid to see. if they don't like it, tough, you have waited to see them, and you will. don't give in.

if the album is not out by the end of the year, i will just download it if it were to ever be released.

wow, kaneda, you bought a rap album......nope, you cant be saved.

when it comes out a day early in europe, i will d/l it. i will buy my copies the next day though.

i will say this, and if management is reading this forum, pay close fucking attention: "if i do not have Chinese Democracy by Guns N' Roses in my hand by the end of the year, i will not, and will never purchase a copy of this, or any other Guns album again. im sure there are a bunch of pissed off fuckers just like me out there who will do the same. sure we wont make a dent in record sales, that will never happen, but you will lose part of the only publicity your getting right now. today is nov. 21st, which means you have 4 Tuesdays left. don't fuck with us anymore, because very soon, you'll find that you have run out of people to fuck with."

That was fucking funny as fuck. cudos!

nice one

....what album was we on about ?

the new velvet revolver album, Contraband 1.5(same music, new title)

What the hell is a douche bag anyway? Always wondered.

well, i am glad that i refered to kaneda's dildo as a "rubber dick" or else we could be here a while.

LMAOROF

That's fucking classic... pure genious... GENIOUS!!!

i owe it all to your sig

oh, and now your avatar is making me want to watch Smokey and the Bandit......and its nearly 3:30 am. its all good though, im sick as fuck and for some reason its giving me insomnia.

What the hell is a douche bag anyway? Always wondered.

well, i am glad that i refered to kaneda's dildo as a "rubber dick" or else we could be here a while.

Holy shit... ES has lost it... Enterprise... Scotty... beam me up... fast! There's nothing but dudes with strap-ons coming at me! Why the fuck isn't my intergalatic two-way radio transmitter not working?! Good thing I had beans for lunch... I'll fend them off with farts.

don't worry, kaneda is not on the forum right now

Mysteron is Del James.

where does this claim come from?

You set yourself up for it, but oh well. Here goes. That claim comes from someone's (probably YOUR) ass.

Waitta a second here, fellas.

Slash comes out of Axl's ass...now rumors are coming out of jc524's ass...do you see what I'm getting at, here?

Jc524 IS Axl Rose! And the rumors are Slash!

Sorry, I think I'm losing it boys...this rollercoaster of a ride that is the "wait for Democracy" is driving me crazy...

dont worry, its 3 am here, and im starting to believe that the cd may be out tomorrow, so i think i am less sane than you at the moment

Mysteron is Del James.

where does this claim come from?

You set yourself up for it, but oh well. Here goes. That claim comes from someone's (probably YOUR) ass.

uhhhhhh, how did he set himself up for anything?

Be careful... you don't want Santa Kaneda coming over with his rubber dick.

oh man, i just laughed while i had diet mt. dew in my mouth....bad result.

kaneda's diet dew?

i was under the impression that kaneda didn't have a dick, hence the rubber one.

Be careful... you don't want Santa Kaneda coming over with his rubber dick.

oh man, i just laughed while i had diet mt. dew in my mouth....bad result.

DUde, Turbo is a stand-up guy, he sold me a ticket for the May 15th Hammerstein show!!

I can vouch for him on that!

Thanks man, but it's not even worth trying with some of these people.

sorry about not believing you before

You got chicks running erands for you? That's what I call a real man

thats what i call a pimp rock2

I honestly don't beleive it either, but I am SURE my chick will get to the bottom of it..

Chris 55, Wildheart...

I wanna believe you guys.

Call the number and have Wildheart PM you the guys name. I didn't get it. When I called back, I got the chick who said it wasn't coming out

My chick that is headed there knows the guy's name. I come prepared....

You got chicks running erands for you? That's what I call a real man

I live in NY-she lives next to the store.

ummmmm, dude, the store in question is in HOLLYWOOD CA...............