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So. 

I havent had the chance to listen yet. (Im at the bar)

But is this a part of the AFD 1999 or is this a genuine 2001 recording with bucket and brain?

This one sounds a bit fake to me.

I could be wrong

3 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said:

Okay, so this is just an unfinished version of Silkworms. The version that leaked earlier is a billion times better, cause duh... that one is actually a pretty much finished song. This version lacks energy compared to the other version and the word "Absurd" is sorely missed.

Now if this version had the chorus of the live version, then it would be at least interesting, but that one's missing here too. These are truly VERY rough mixes, so there's no doubt that the final versions of HS and AS will be much improved also.

Now I have the word absurd in my mind again. Gotta go listen to the other version of Silkworms. I just love that version and the Prodigy vibes of it.

You mean the bumblefoot version?

Finally a good studio version of Silkworms! I love it. Ive always liked the song.

The drums kick ass. Love the soundscape. Missing the chorus vocals and the screaming vocals. 

Call me what you want but i want this over Hardschool which is also killer

So is this drums up 1.5db with Brain and the old one with Josh?

I love it!

1 minute ago, Stro said:

A list/B list didn't refer to quality. A list was finished with vocals. B list was songs that were still being worked on, be it no vocals or still adding instrumentation. 

huh. Interesting.

11 hours ago, Towelie said:

Do we know anything about the writing credits for Hard School? 

If i had to guess it would be with Freese and maybe Tommy.

Josh said in a interview that he wrote 3 songs for chinese. The title track. And two others that went to the b-list or c-list.

The song has  a punk rock wibe similiar to cd and other songs Josh has in his solo albums

Yeah. The leaks are from 2000 so its what the album would have sounded in 2000. Not 1999.

See the difference on the old Catcher and TWAT leaks (from 1999 leaked in 2006)

Old IRS leak and the new one from last week seems to be the same.

3 minutes ago, illusion23 said:

Solo from 2:22 onwards is definately Buckethead's. You can hear it easily from the guitar tone. Then Buckethead begins his killswitch mayhem from 3.00 min

I agree. Thanks for pointing it out

7 minutes ago, Mendez said:

 first part is robin 2nd part is bucket. Its the same solo as it was on the antiquiet version

Got it! 

23 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I believe the percussive guitar in Prostitute (where the solos should've been) are from Buckethead's killswitch. Who knows.

I dont think thats the killswitch. Sounds more like what Dave Kushner played on the intro of Slither.

Im not a guitar player so i dont know what the technique is.

Listening to rhiad again.

Are we sure its bucket on the solo? It sounds a bit robin esque

These are great but im glad we got twat with bucket. He put thay song on a another level.

Same with the orchestra on prostitute

2 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

I personally prefer the old-GNR-esque heavy start to The Blues!  And never was fond of Ron's solo on Riad, and like the beefed up CD from this leak more than the final version

Different strokes for different folks for sure, but these songs groove way way harder with the drums higher in the mix, the guitars beefed up, and the layers not existing yet

I got ya. I agree on the drums. Cd is way more pumchy on the 2000 versions.

Id say on catcher im quite neutral i like both. (2008 a bit more)

The better leak from 2007-08 is the only one that could be better.than thefinal one. No slideguitar during the bubbly pitman solo

Just now, WhazUp said:

These leaks should have been the album we got, honestly.  With the exception of Bucket's solo in TWAT and the orchestra in Prostitute I can't think of another aspect of the 10 years of tinkering with these songs that made them better than these early versions

Second solo on cd

Second solo on irs

Rons solo on riad

The calmer intro on the blues

Everysong was improved on the final album if you ask me.

Just now, ZODIAC said:

So... I guess i missed the Party... Is going down with axl on vocals? 

No. Its all Tommy. With guitars and drum machine

That was fun

What a time to be online!

Listening to these make me.feel like the wait until 2008 was worth it. These are really cool demos but on everysingle track i find the album version to be superior.

These are superduper extra cool work o  progress version tho

Damn its 6am and still havent gone to sleep

About prostitute. 

It could be a fake. But someone needed to record new guitar parts on it. And record new drums. 

Doable but id say unlikely.

I never realised bumblefoots solo was so unpopular. I like it more than May's.

Dont get me wrong both are great.

Im happy to have both to listen to.

Are we sure its the exact same versions of catcher and irs than we got in the 2006?

They sound a.bit differently mixed

Or it could be just the difference on quality

Here i understand where they werent satisfied with Josh drum sound. It sounds way more huge on the.final version.

Also the outro is really cool here. 

Not as grandioso as the final version but really cool.

Nothing beats the final version for me. Its my fav track on chinese atm

1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

People are saying that's just a low quality remix of the Rock Band tracks. At least that's what I was told. 

Im hearing different drums. 

Some new guitars.

Could be done by recording over the rock band tracks but my gut feeling is that its legit