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Finished Viv Albertine's Clothes, Clothes, Clothes, Music, Music, Music, Boys, Boys, Boys a few days ago. One of the best music memoirs I've come across.

Germfree Adolescents by X-Ray Spex. Still the greatest.

3 hours ago, willl said:

I thought it was constipated at first too 😆 It's only my attempt at transcribing so it's probably wrong lol

Izzy needs to get back on the avocadoes #fiber

I also like the direction that Robert Plant has taken over the last couple of decades. He's toned down the bombast established an identity outside of Led Zep in a way that Jimmy Page has struggled to do. As much as I'd love to go see Led Zep, much respect to RP for forging ahead. A lot of those recent solo records/collabos with Alison Krauss are lovely.

Enjoy this one quite a lot. And I really don't mind the production. there's a certain warts and all live reality which I thought was a gutsy move for musicians of that vintage. 

Yes, there's a bit of a processed, programmed drums vibe, but I reckon Slash's surf-rock (!) feel adds a lot of warmth. Pretty cool all in all.

1 minute ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Nothing

I wouldn't mind this sort of thing so much if they showed any sort of forward momentum. 

1 minute ago, Gunsdrummer63 said:

KOHD is still going...

https://imgflip.com/i/5n9hwm

https://imgflip.com/i/5n9gow

Fortus is cool by me, but sometimes I think his stylist is getting him close to a cool Ron Wood/Izzy thing, only to ultimately decide on Rock n Roll Action Figure 101.

4 minutes ago, Gunner Gilby said:

Lol. I've got the soundtrack/solo album by Dave Dobbyn. I remember being delighted when Guns played Auckland in 07 that Dizzy's piano solo was Don't Dream It's Over by NZ band Crowded House. Goes to show that you can get pleasant surprises at shows.

That's pretty cool. I grew up across the pond, but I loved A Dogs Tale as a kid and still have my Slice of Heaven 7 inch single!

I suspect it would be a situation where if they can't go to Aus (which seems likely), they'd also postpone the NZ shows. Would make economic sense, although it'd be a drag. Hopefully they'll get their jandals on soon enough.

I Wanna Be Your Dog (From Footrot Flats)

sounds like a wise move from MP. Love me some FNM.

Apologies if this has already been knocking around on the forums. From The Quietus in 2014, https://thequietus.com/articles/15020-liars-angus-andrew-favourite-albums?page=5

"One of the ways to understand an album’s influence is to gauge how it’s evolved with you over time. This record came out when I was about nine or something. At that age most of what was going on within GN’R’s music and around the band went right over my head. I remember even being turned off by the artwork. What did turn me on though was of course the massive hit ‘Sweet Child O’Mine’. So much so that I started sporting the bandana headband and growing my hair out like Axl Rose. It’s a great song, no doubt. Slash’s guitar solo particularly just blew my mind. Still, like I said, the rest of the album and whatever Guns N’ Roses stood for was quite beyond me and I was happy to go back to listening to ‘Rockit’ by Herbie Hancock.

Then my teenage years came around and once again Appetite… was in full rotation. This time though I was primed to go deeper. I remember I had a girlfriend called Michelle and so of course ‘My Michelle’ became my dirge. The references to drugs and porn not only made sense to me but now I could connect with them. It felt like my life was just catching up to the imagery of the record. All these things I’d been hearing about from this band that went over my head as a youngster, I now felt like I had a real association with. And so I dove in. I don’t want to say Appetite… made me want to chug Jack Daniels and smoke cigarettes, but in fact it did.

Later, in my 20s when I first found myself in Los Angeles this record once again loomed large. I was living outside of LA at art school and Aaron and I would drive down on the weekends to the most seedy places we could find on the Sunset Strip to dance and see bands and do bad things. Of course this was the playground that birthed Appetite… so it only felt natural for us to crank ‘Rocket Queen’ as we slugged back beers on the freeway. This was also the time period when I first began to make music so the album kind of morphed from just a purely visceral and graphic listen to an understanding of its pure and unadulterated musical prowess. The songs, playing and flow of the record just blossomed my appreciation for what a group of people making sounds together could achieve. To this day I’m in awe that this record was created. It’s one of those rare gems that the band had no hope of improving with their follow-up releases. It just wasn’t possible."

7 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Just drop it and let the music speak for itself. Like you said, most people who are gonna buy physical copies, are gonna buy it regardless of whether it's been on spotify/youtube/etc for a few weeks. A surprise drop is definitely the way to go, IMO.

Yeah, personally I'd like a surprise drop without liner notes at first.

Usually I prefer having all the liners in hand, but with a GnR surprise drop I could check out the music and kvetch about all the weird Frankenstein credits later on (Huge/Pitman/Wylde/Hudson/Thal/Shaq/May/Moby/McKagan) 

48 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I'm shocked that the studio version grew on me but yeah, the live version rips. I had a LOT of fun when they played it. 

I'm also just enjoying seeing the tension of a new song (or at least a song that's new to much of the audience) hanging in the air at a GnR show. It's nice to wonder how it's hitting with everyone. Like a fool I was expecting to see that happen in 2016, but I'm feeling forgiving - especially if the good vibes keep coming.  

while the studio version of ABSUЯD still doesn't really do it for me (maybe at the moment I feel I know too much about "how the sausage gets made" when it comes to that track...20 years worth of sausage!) - I gotta say I feel like the live version kinda kicks. The band locks in and it's nice to hear the vocal without all the processing. 

My aunt got me a ticket to a Motley Crue show years ago (I'm by no means a fan, but she's awesome and needed a show buddy). We're not po faced people, but we wound up leaving during Tommy Lee's TittyCam (TM). At one point Tommy was harassing a young woman to get her boobs out for the cameras (while also encouraging the crowd in a chant of 'GET. THEM. OUT' or some shit). "Come on baby, they're just titties, I'll bust my shit out for you!" 

Seeing this woman (probably about 18/19 years old) reluctantly acquiesce to Tommy was the absolute lowlight of my concert-going life. My aunt went and got a refund on her merch and we drove home feeling deflated. Fuck those guys.

3 minutes ago, Powderfinger said:

That Wyman thing was fucked. I’m a Stones fan, but fuck that, they even used that scandal to promote the tour after it. I have the following shirt in black. I bought it at a stones gig in 1994 when I was 15...  I wouldn’t wear it now... 

https://flashbak.com/the-rolling-stones-were-proud-to-withstand-under-age-sex-the-1994-poster-and-t-shirt-9356/

Wow, ffs

4 hours ago, alfierose said:

Golden era rockstars are like teflon when it comes to cancellation. I think it's partly because they've always been upfront about the sex, drugs and R&R and it's what people expected of them in their prime and sometimes beyond. Look at what Bill Wyman got away with!

Teflon indeed. I was just thinking about Wyman the other day. I wonder if his retreat from the public eye has been to avoid heat for his weird (or ultimately criminal) behaviour. I'm a Stones fan and I'm holding on to their LPs, but I wouldn't have bought tickets to see 'em if Bill was still there. I don't judge people harshly if they feel otherwise, I believe we can all draw the line where we want - I just don't think rockers like Wyman (or others who come to mind) can be defended in the same way that say Jerry Lee Lewis can (i.e. weird as it sounds to urban folks in the 21st century, marrying your 13 y.o. cousin wasn't that strange in 1950s Louisiana...)

Interesting in the case of Morrissey where his apparent 'cancellation' isn't due to sexual indiscretions, but rather an alignment with the hard-right and awful statements like referring to Chinese people as a 'subspecies'. As much ire as it has provoked, I don't think many/any of my left-leaning friends have thrown out their Smiths records, and I know he's been embraced by some conservative folks as a result of the controversy. Pre-Covid he still seemed to be filling live venues, so sometimes it seems 'cancellations' are a shift in audience demography. Anyway, maybe he'll end up on a double-bill at a county fair with that dingdong from Staind sometime

I'm a fan of some of Kanye West's records and have enjoyed his shows, but I found his recent embrace of Marilyn Manson and Da Baby to be a cynical publicity stunt rather than something which pointed towards mercy or redemption. It might also be tough to tell if someone like Manson has been 'cancelled' or is simply washed up? 

One other thought...I'm not really sure that GnR is a safer/tamer entity these days on account of being 'woke' or 'PC', as some like to accuse them of. It seems far more likely that Axl has done a fair bit of growing up, especially in the last 10 years or so. Of course they're not going to be the raging, raw-nerve group they were in their youth.

Geez...I could go on with these tangents for way too long. I should probably stop this stream of consciousness that's probably getting off topic!