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Alright so when my guitar is plugged in, I'm getting the usual drone sound from my amp but no sound from the guitar itself. I try and play it and no sound. I recently tightened up the screw thing because it was loose and now its as tight as I can get it but still no sound. Anybody know whats wrong?

sounds like the ground wire is loose. if you open the back of the guitar,look where the wires are soldered and check the connections.

I had the priviledge to become a GN'R fan about 2 months before CD was released. I didn't know anything about the leaks or the messageboards at that time. I was still listening to Greatest Hits on repeat.

One day I just went to Brian May's website and saw that there was a release date for GN'Rs new album. I made a Myspace account just to be able to hear it when it came out. Then I listened to it it a couple of times in a row. It was all fresh amazing new music to me. Looking back I kinda see how listening to the leaks could have spoiled the whole experience for me.

I don't want leaks. I want to hear it in the official way.

You have no idea what it was like for someone like myself who stuck with the band from the time of AFD to the long silence that followed the disintegration of the original line-up. Without the leaks, it is highly likely CD never would have been released. The potential for new leaks may be the only way to get anything else out of this band.

Few bands are truly innovative. Musicians are simply a product of their influences. Just as GN'R combined elements from many different classic rock bands, Nirvana was basically the Pixies with a poppier sound and Pearl Jam were 70's hard rock with some punk influences. The difference is that GN'R's influences were more mainstream and therefore more obvious to the average fan.

Like any other conflict, I'm sure both parties are at fault to some degree. It's crazy to think Slash or Axl is blameless and the other side is pure evil. Things are rarely black and white.

On Monday 20th December 2010, @Tophatblues0 said:

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@tommy_stinson do you think the uk wants axls bitches here?when you are real gnr and not the diluted version you can moan ! Fuck off back to America you cunts! Your paychecks in the post ! Hurry up and leave so we can have the real band back you fuckin jobs worth and if you do come back I gotta big bottle of piss waiting ! Stop rippin off others music n find your own cunt !

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@tommy_stinson come stay at mine n I'll slit your fuckin throat phoney

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That's just petty and childish. Threatening to kill people that insult you doesn't make you a punk rocker. It just makes you a punk.

It's not that kind of band anymore. I think of Chinese Democracy as being closer to a symphonic piece than a rock band. Even the solos seem to be planned out.

I'd say the most important thing is being able to write a good song.

yeah, but if you can't navigate thru all the shady passages of the business, you and your good song will forever stay in obscurity.

It's really a myth that talent leads to success. Most of the really talented musicians I know do not want to deal with the idea of art being commerce. I practically guarantee the greatest band ever ended up playing in obscurity because they refused to conform.

Legally, Axl may be 100% in the right. This still makes him look like an asshole though. Slash is always going tom be associated with WTTJ, and Guitar Hero was smart enough to know that practically no one would be waiting in line to play as DJ Ashba. Telling them they can't offer VR tracks as downloads makes him look even worse, as if he's afraid of the competition.

Yeah, pretty much. It's the fact that he singles out the whole Slash-imagery thing that makes it seem like sour grapes more than a case of real legal concern. You can't really control pop culture - no matter how long it's been since he was in the band, that's always the band Slash is gonna be known for to most people, and it just seems silly to me to attack that.

Slash LEFT the band on his own, now he is trying to cash in on it? How is that ok? I fail to see how you think it is ok at all. In fact Slash is the first one in recent memory to NOT discuss Guns in interviews, so as long as he can use it to make money it's ok then? That is the problem, either distance yourself or embrace it by getting the rights to use the song, you can't have it both ways.

It is wrong, Slash knew it, and the makers of the game knew they did not have the rights issue figured out and decided to release it anyway. They honestly don't give a fuck is the message here.

Just because he left the band doesn't mean he doesn't still have the right to profit from his past works. Like I said, Axl may be legally in the right. That doesn't mean this is good for the way the public perceives him. Sure, Axl has the right to use the name GN'R. What he doesn't have the right to do is deny that anyone else ever made a contribution to their legacy. That is a seriously twisted revisionist view of history that few will swallow.

Understood, Slash absolutely has the right for $ on past works based on royalties, but not by bringing the past into the present and allowing activision to use it.

Axl does not want the public to percieve Slash in the band, fuck just the other day the guy on the youtube video of DJ Ashba playing national anthem the guy say something to the effect of, Slash is the lead guitar player in Guns N' Roses!

Public perception is the old band is still together for the most part. I can see Axl's point when it comes to that and trying to move forward.

Slash was in the band when the song was written. That's what matters here. I don't see Guitar Hero scrambling to include CD material, simply because they would not profit from it as greatly-witness the inclusion of SR in Rock Band and the fact no one cared. So yeah, legally they may have made a bad move-which I did not deny. Axl might win the suit, but he walks away looking like an asshole. Simple as that.

Legally, Axl may be 100% in the right. This still makes him look like an asshole though. Slash is always going tom be associated with WTTJ, and Guitar Hero was smart enough to know that practically no one would be waiting in line to play as DJ Ashba. Telling them they can't offer VR tracks as downloads makes him look even worse, as if he's afraid of the competition.

Yeah, pretty much. It's the fact that he singles out the whole Slash-imagery thing that makes it seem like sour grapes more than a case of real legal concern. You can't really control pop culture - no matter how long it's been since he was in the band, that's always the band Slash is gonna be known for to most people, and it just seems silly to me to attack that.

Slash LEFT the band on his own, now he is trying to cash in on it? How is that ok? I fail to see how you think it is ok at all. In fact Slash is the first one in recent memory to NOT discuss Guns in interviews, so as long as he can use it to make money it's ok then? That is the problem, either distance yourself or embrace it by getting the rights to use the song, you can't have it both ways.

It is wrong, Slash knew it, and the makers of the game knew they did not have the rights issue figured out and decided to release it anyway. They honestly don't give a fuck is the message here.

Just because he left the band doesn't mean he doesn't still have the right to profit from his past works. Like I said, Axl may be legally in the right. That doesn't mean this is good for the way the public perceives him. Sure, Axl has the right to use the name GN'R. What he doesn't have the right to do is deny that anyone else ever made a contribution to their legacy. That is a seriously twisted revisionist view of history that few will swallow.

Legally, Axl may be 100% in the right. This still makes him look like an asshole though. Slash is always going tom be associated with WTTJ, and Guitar Hero was smart enough to know that practically no one would be waiting in line to play as DJ Ashba. Telling them they can't offer VR tracks as downloads makes him look even worse, as if he's afraid of the competition.

I have no doubt that there are probably tons of musical pieces recorded in some form or another, and furthermore some of those riffs might have had the potential to make better songs than anything that was released. To me, the fact that nothing has leaked(other than the Checkmate clip) except for songs on CD tells me that more than likely there just isn't much-if any- complete material left.

You're not in the band-you have no input whatsoever.

that's why they speculate

They just don't want to admit to themselves that for better or for worse, Chinese Democracy was exactly what Axl wanted and contained what he thought was the best material the band had. They don't have the equivalent of Dark Side of the Moon in the can waiting for just the right moment to be released. Outtakes are usually unreleased because they just aren't that good.

That's not true though.

You Could Be Mine, November Rain, Don't Cry, The Garden, Bad Obsession and Back Off Bitch were all AFD era ''outtakes.''

No they weren't. They were written but not recorded.

You're not in the band-you have no input whatsoever.

that's why they speculate

They just don't want to admit to themselves that for better or for worse, Chinese Democracy was exactly what Axl wanted and contained what he thought was the best material the band had. They don't have the equivalent of Dark Side of the Moon in the can waiting for just the right moment to be released. Outtakes are usually unreleased because they just aren't that good.

How do you know what's left in Axl's vault? For all we know the second part of Chinese Democracy could be better than what was released.

As for the outtakes comment, again we don't know. We havn't heard the material in question. Some songs go together well as a cohesive unit. the unreleased stuff could be amazing on it's own, but best kept for part 2.

The truth is only if/when CD2 is released, we'll have something to compare Chinese Democracy to. Until then, everything is just pure speculation fuled by what we want it to be.

So you speculate that speculating that speculation is pointless is speculation. We are approaching entropy.

You're not in the band-you have no input whatsoever.

that's why they speculate

They just don't want to admit to themselves that for better or for worse, Chinese Democracy was exactly what Axl wanted and contained what he thought was the best material the band had. They don't have the equivalent of Dark Side of the Moon in the can waiting for just the right moment to be released. Outtakes are usually unreleased because they just aren't that good.

It seems so crazy to me that people want to speculate about how much unreleased material exists, or how they would like to hear what different versions of the existing songs might have sounded like in different eras. Rather than spending all this time worrying about something you will never hear, why not learn to play music and write songs that sound like what you want? I've seen topics about things like " don't you wish the band sounded like (fill in whatever description you wish)" for years and it just seems pointless. You're not in the band-you have no input whatsoever.

DJ is used to writing material for the likes of Nikki Sixx. I doubt there is a lot of quality control-and certainly no musical complexity-involved in that process. He may naively believe that GN'R can work the same way-just take the first 10 or 12 lame ideas you come up with, record and release.

Ron knows Axl much better and is familiar with his creative process, so you have to assume his statement is a lot more accurate.

I copied this straight off Facebook-deleted the kid's name so he doesn't get harassed. It's not much but it's SOMETHIN,right?

Hey You crazy multi-instrument genius! Any news on the unreleased material of GN'R? Is GN'R in the studio during this break in touring perhaps? Have a nice weekend Chris!

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much easier way than that-although that sounds tre cool.are u familiar w/the chakra system?well, the body has 7 major enrgy centers called chakras, each resonates a different pitch and color.

b crown(top of head,violet

a third eye,indigo

g blue

f green

e-yellow

d orange

c root/anus-red

so realize they tune down to eb, that makes the tones off a bit, but just buy the score sheet, much easier than dealin with MIDI charts IMHO.

Firstly I better say that I have no musical training or background, and if Synthesia has been mentioned on this forum before I apoligise.

Basically it's software that reads midi files, an dcan "split them" into instrumental layers (different colours), and allows you plays these visual tutorials at any speed you want.

The program used to be called Piano Hero, but Activision stepped in a few years ago, and the program was renamed.

I discovered this software when it was referred to in this youtube video:

I've never been interested musical instruments before, but I downloaded the free version of Synthesia and tried to follow instrumental tracks on my girlfriend Yamaha keyboard, and I was pretty impressed on how quickly I was able to play along to some of my favourite GN'R tracks.

It is possible to play it just using a computer keyboard too, but if you have access to a real keybaord it's much better.

As you probably know there are loads of midi's available on this site, making it real easy to start playing right away.

Right now I'm trying to find Street of Dreams / The Blues, but can't find a midi of it. Can anyone refer me to one?

Axl is to ticketmaster as Lars is to Napster

actually-yeah.

let's not forget,Pearl Jam couldn't do it it at the peak of their popularity.it would be cool as fuck, and would score some cred but this is no saving grace.

think for a second.you closer to agreeing with me than you think.Bleach was made for $600 for Sup Pop.You are young Kurt,o.k.?They offer you a shitton of money,get butch Vig-fresh off producing Gish for smashing Pumpkins.You sign the paper.You are flat broke,o.k.?Then,you find out you made a deal with the devil.He was required contractually to do those appearances.So, rather than get sued and taken for everything he did them.Always tongue-in-cheek,like when he did Headbanger's Ball wearing a tacky bright yellow prom dress.So yeah,he made a mistake.

He should have read the contract better. Making those appearances isn't THAT bad, it's part of the deal, you know I have a job that pays a lot but I often have to do additional hours to complete the work and I accept the game even if it's not in the contract because it pays well and when I think of others whose situation is miserable I consider myself lucky.

If he didn't want to have his face everywhere then he should never have considered this business to begin with, he should have been a farmer or maybe even go out live in the jungle and feeds himself with plants.

But if it's about being on MTV,Axl was on it constantly back then.

The thing is Axl didn't diss the medias, he wanted to be a performer, a rockstar, an icon if you want, he embraced what he was doing, unlike Kurt Cobain. Axl had balls. Kurt didn't.

Suicide-I agree.But if you were married to that cunt and deal with the problems of fame-it might be an option on the table.Especially considering Kourtney used to teach Frances to call Evan Dando daddy just to fuck with Kurt.Maybe you've never run across a true sociopath,or a succubus.When you do-suicide might be better.peace.

I don't know I'm not in his situation. I'm not the judge of Kurt Cobain, I just don't see him as a saint, or as a man responsable of his actions, and I'm a bit bored by people constantly worshipping him. I don't like Nirvana's music, especially the lyrics I despise, I don't like the character of Cobain, I understand if you're a fan, but you aren't gonna change my way of seeing things on that matter, my whole life, people have wanted to teach me what "good music" is, and I've been fed with Nirvana, Jon Bon Jovi, Limp Bizkit, Good Charlotte and other shit like that in college and high school, and everybody despised bands like Guns N' Roses or Muse (things have changed about Muse now but ten years ago, everybody hated them and was constantly referring to Radiohead as the best band), when I found out about Guns N' Roses years later, it changed something in me, it's like something on this fucking earth is right.

I'm just not interested in Nirvana, I should even talk about it, I think if you just have negative things to say about something you better shut up, that's why I'm on a Guns N' Roses forum. No hard feelings mate I respect if you're a Nirvana fan it's just not my thing.

of course.we probably see eye to eye on 90% of things.But,in my era-sellout was used a lot man.Anyway-yes,KOL suck it.There's not much out there at all.til my stuff hits this month .333 Music LLC,soon.peace.

no honor?back that up..he did make a deal w/the devil, no doubt.but, he followed it up w/a Incesticide,which contained a diatribe against the segments of his fan base that were racist,sexist,or just plain dumb.then he did In Utero w/probably the toughest nosed indie producer out there,Steve Albini.Then, he did Unplugged and played a bunch of covers 99% of the audience didn't know.your basing your statement on nada sir.

The fact is he complained about being famous, that he didn't want that life, don't wanna be a rock star, yet he comes on MTV, gets his prize, gets max exposure, I call this double talking. I don't care how underground he thought he was, fact is, most of his songs are "chorus verse chorus verse" (i think there even is a nirvana song with that title), very commercial, and he wants to play the underground man. This is bullshit.

I hope that one day, some people with brain will look back at music history and realize a guy like Kurt Cobain was a sold out man, and Axl Rose is not. It's like Kurt Cobain became some kind of god when he died when nobody gives a shit about Layne Staley (at least in the medias). I call this bull fucking shit man. Kurt cobain was a man with many weaknesses and was self contradictory. I don't respect the man nor his songs, suicide while you have the chance to have a daughter and such fame is fucking bullshit. No really it's a sad story but I can't take this guy as a man, more like a teenager with all his contradictions and delusions that never grew up into a man.

think for a second.you closer to agreeing with me than you think.Bleach was made for $600 for Sup Pop.You are young Kurt,o.k.?They offer you a shitton of money,get butch Vig-fresh off producing Gish for smashing Pumpkins.You sign the paper.You are flat broke,o.k.?Then,you find out you made a deal with the devil.He was required contractually to do those appearances.So, rather than get sued and taken for everything he did them.Always tongue-in-cheek,like when he did Headbanger's Ball wearing a tacky bright yellow prom dress.So yeah,he made a mistake.

sell out's an easy word.I'd say Axl has been true to his convictions, and i believe Kurt was as well.Now, if you dislike the music,fine.But if it's about being on MTV,Axl was on it constantly back then.Don't be hypocritical.If you dislike Nirvana,fine.Don't take the easy route man.You seem smarter than that.

Suicide-I agree.But if you were married to that cunt and deal with the problems of fame-it might be an option on the table.Especially considering Kourtney used to teach Frances to call Evan Dando daddy just to fuck with Kurt.Maybe you've never run across a true sociopath,or a succubus.When you do-suicide might be better.peace.

I don't study the too cool for the room fucks that say Kurt was a sellout-they do, and they are fucking morons. Signing with a major and getting a good sounding mix isn't selling out. Going along with the trend is. In that sense, most of the indie kids are more conformist than those they attack.

I agree with your last sentence, however concerning Kurt Cobain, the problem is what he said, not wanting to go mainstream, that his fans didn't understand his music, that he didn't want Nirvana to be so popular, if he really thought that, why go to a major and coming on MTV? That's fucking ridiculous. In some interviews, he looked like a nice fella, but truth is his words didn't match with some of his actions. But that's not the subject of the thread.

Why go to a major?proper distribution and funding to get a good sound.MTV-that's the label's gig,not his.

Come on man you are blinding yourself. He was double talking, this guy has no honour. And it shows in the music, even when I was a teenager I never bought that Nirvana shit.

no honor?back that up..he did make a deal w/the devil, no doubt.but, he followed it up w/a Incesticide,which contained a diatribe against the segments of his fan base that were racist,sexist,or just plain dumb.then he did In Utero w/probably the toughest nosed indie producer out there,Steve Albini.Then, he did Unplugged and played a bunch of covers 99% of the audience didn't know.your basing your statement on nada sir.

I don't study the too cool for the room fucks that say Kurt was a sellout-they do, and they are fucking morons. Signing with a major and getting a good sounding mix isn't selling out. Going along with the trend is. In that sense, most of the indie kids are more conformist than those they attack.

I agree with your last sentence, however concerning Kurt Cobain, the problem is what he said, not wanting to go mainstream, that his fans didn't understand his music, that he didn't want Nirvana to be so popular, if he really thought that, why go to a major and coming on MTV? That's fucking ridiculous. In some interviews, he looked like a nice fella, but truth is his words didn't match with some of his actions. But that's not the subject of the thread.

Why go to a major?proper distribution and funding to get a good sound.MTV-that's the label's gig,not his.

I don't study the too cool for the room fucks that say Kurt was a sellout-they do, and they are fucking morons. Signing with a major and getting a good sounding mix isn't selling out. Going along with the trend is. In that sense, most of the indie kids are more conformist than those they attack.

I agree with your last sentence, however concerning Kurt Cobain, the problem is what he said, not wanting to go mainstream, that his fans didn't understand his music, that he didn't want Nirvana to be so popular, if he really thought that, why go to a major and coming on MTV? That's fucking ridiculous. In some interviews, he looked like a nice fella, but truth is his words didn't match with some of his actions. But that's not the subject of the thread.

Money.

It gets the best of us. **shrugs**

If he was so concerned with money-would he have bought this house instead of a mansion in Beverly Hills?

http://360digest.com/wp-content/uploads/kurt_cobain_house_jpg.jpg

I dig Tegan and Sara btw.But,you're just plain wrong here.No offense.

I can tell you from my own experience as a musician. I'm sort of between two worlds. Appetite and Nevermind were both huge. I came up walking the razor's edge between the indie/punk scene and straight -up rock.Yeah, a lot of the indie kids see Axl as a geezer. A lot see him as the second coming of Sid Vicious. So...ultimately, real musicians recognize the genius. But, small minded gutter punks see GN'R as old farts. I doubt Axl gives a fuck. He's a musician's musician. I don't study the too cool for the room fucks that say Kurt was a sellout-they do, and they are fucking morons. Signing with a major and getting a good sounding mix isn't selling out. Going along with the trend is. In that sense, most of the indie kids are more conformist than those they attack.

Namaste.

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