Voodoochild

5 hours ago, Ratam said:

Happy New Year to you 

Happy new year! 

24 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

I guess they don't want attention on GN'R probably because of the lawsuits, since every little thing they say about GN'R in an interview will be reposted on sites like Blabbermouth and those "second-hand" articles usually incorporate other recent related news, so it could be like "Slash said this about GN'R... In other related news, Axl Rose has been sued..." etc.

I think it’s just that they don’t want to divert attention to what they are actually promoting. Also because they probably don’t have a clue about what will happen with GNR anyways, so it’s better to not create any expectation. 

13 hours ago, Ratam said:

Is she actress?

Yeah, her name is Renata Sorrah. It's from a soap opera scene. 

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/math-lady-confused-lady

On 12/16/2023 at 3:09 PM, DeNfr said:

Funny thing is that this woman is also Brazilian. 

I was among the first to bitch about the clipping and compression. Those things are upsetting, but I do like the song quite a bit. The chorus is way better than Monter's chorus, IMO.

22 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

The general public will hate monsters too btw. 

For sure. A bit less, but still...

27 minutes ago, jamillos said:

I wouldn't be so sure about this. Now "ugly" is obviously subjective, but certain arrangements or tone or whatever, yeah, these things can play a role, can't they. It's a definite maybe. 

With the arrangement and production? Yes, totally. With the mix? Very much doubt it. 

Did he know he was being recorded in the beginning? 

He confirmed the blues stuff there. 

What evader did is a different kind of work, but it does include artistic sensibility and meticulous observation of song elements. It's a lot of work, but the guy clearly has the chops. It's different from creating a song from the scratch, of course, but it doesn't mean it's easy to make something worth noting. 

Having said that, I encourage anyone here to try to just sing The General in the same tone, octave and timbre and then come back to say if that was easy. Just because the song's structure and chords are relatively simple, it doesn't mean there was some serious effort there. 

17 hours ago, DeNfr said:

made this for myself, feel free to use it for personal use if you dig it.

This is awesome. 

On 12/8/2023 at 5:13 AM, Blackstar said:

Considering that The General is mixed by Caram, I strongly doubt that it was one of the new mixes Axl and Slash listened to. The mix we got must be from 2-3 years ago.

They could've been listening to some alternate new mixes and decided to stay with Caram's (yeah, I know).

18 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said:

People clearly like these songs. They are not universally hated like some people like to claim just because they don't personally like them.

Agree. About The General: It's been almost a week after the release and at least for me, the majority of top comments on YouTube are positive. I know this is not much, and the views are much lower than Perhaps, but that's expected. 

Overall, I think it is what it is. The song is not universally liked, but I feel there's not that much hate as some may want to focus on.

9 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

There's quite a bit of autotune on CD. I'm surprised they didn't do it.

It's there, but not noticeable IMO. I don't think it's really necessary to use it in neither The General and Monsters. It's fine the way it is, rock music shouldn't be perfect anyways.

2 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

I like your positive post and why not? One day, we will.be surprised....there's never gonna be that announce early and lead up release.again, Axl will never let that happen....when/if this record comes....it'll probably be a very short lead-in or a surprise release even...

If it's quality material, it could be the best thing, the element of surprise and getting something we don't expect AND with no expectations 

It’s all about their schedule too. This year off could be exactly the moment for Axl to properly write his parts and record at least initial voices tracks. 

The problem, as always, is to release it. 

2 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

An issue to me, something I feel is more tangient, is adding so much distortion on Axl's vocals that it is hard to hear what he says in the chorus. Anyway, that is an artistic choice. 

As for the clipping, I am happy I don't hear it, but a quick Google search tells me it is a fairly common thing in a lot of music. 

I don’t mind the distortion on vocals. Maybe I’m more used to weird things like that because of my personal musical taste. 

2 hours ago, Flayer said:

Reposting some content that I added to the pinned thread:

The most liked and replied to comment on the official Youtube video is "Who in the hell mixed this?"

The number one search result from Reddit on Google is a thread on r/audioengineering where the mix is being ripped to shreds by almost all commenters.

Quotes:
The thing is back in the day people would have said “this sounds like shit” but because they’re so legendary now everyone that works for them are essentially yes men who are to fearful to speak their mind.

Dude you weren't exaggerating. The drums are obvious samples, sound like shit, and they're clipping on one side so loud it's drowning out everything else. There's no bass guitar (or bass in the kick it's all attack) at all and the vocals are just ewwwwww!

The clipping is very bad I thought it was gonna be more subtle than that. I think even ordinary folks that don't do any mixing or nythig like that will notice that. Maybe they'll consider it an interesting effect? Idk, but that's really bad. I also didn't really like the way they did the vocals, and the delay on them made the fact they didn't tune the vocals so much more apparent. But I really understand the decision not to tune them. However, they should have done more takes, imo.

So my brother was in GnR for several years so I know how that band works (he left several years ago)… their FOH guy mixed Chinese Democracy (which is terrible)… so I’m guessing they did the same thing as they keep everything inside their own bubble. Not gonna speak to the song (which sucks) but just the recording: my guess is they did the same thing they did with Chinese Democracy where they had the FOH (Karem) mix it… it’s probably the worst recording/mix I’ve ever heard. Axl is extremely insulated and surrounded by “yes men” and this is what happens. This isn’t a pro mix by any stretch.

The clipping is ABSURD. Like really. Unbelievable. Never heard anything like this

Sometimes when folks complain about bad production or mixes on here I listen to the song and do a bit of an eye roll because the song ends up being perfectly serviceable. However. This song sounds like shit. I genuinely cannot believe it sounds this bad.

It genuinely sounds like something I've recorded at home using Superior Drummer 3 and Helix Native, thinking it was great and then returned to a few days later and its gone straight in the bin.

Wow I just listened to it. Sounds like this was mixed on big speakers with no regard for translation . There no excitement. Its so flat and the clipping is hilarious. Personally I'm not into the music, but the mix ain't helping persuade me to enjoy it more.

God damn you weren't lying, this shit sounds absolutely horrible lol. Yeah that kick especially is just atrocious and the clicking from it clipping in the right speaker during the chorus is horrid

Die hard gnr fan..and novice engineer... this song made me sad.

Well, this is hardly representative of the regular audience. But they are mostly right - I even said a lot of the same things myself. I just strongly disagree with the guy bitching because they didn’t use autotune for Axl. There’s nothing really wrong with the tuning, and to use this would be way worse to me. 

23 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Could it be deliberate as an artistic choice? I don't hear any issues but I don't have a high-end system either. Obviously, if there are actual mistakes that is anateurish but as far as I know there have been different opinions in the "loudness war" and it was en vogue for a while to mix high with the loss of dynamics as a consequence. 

Again, I don't hear it. Arguing that this is evidence that the band isn't giving it their 100% could very well be true, but the same could be said over almost all their releases where decisions have been made that I subjectively felt hurt the music or where they simply made mistakes (like the artwork to CD, the artwork to this single, etc). 

It is simply hard for me to reconcile the extremely emotional reactions here to simply people thinking the mixing could be better. 

The thing is: is the mixing a problem outside of the forums? I don't think so. But still, the issue is very real to me.

I honestly believe the band and Axl have been writing stuff the last few years. Just a hunch, tho.

About the length, it depends on Axl, I guess. I mean, the song could have different sections and all, but ultimately it will depend on how much lyrics Axl will write to fill it all in. I don't want to jump to conclusions based in the NITL singles though, as those were all CD era lyrics anyways.