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1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

Jesses. Can none of you read?  Those 2-3 albums were with "more-or-less finished songs", as I stated, whereas those 28 songs you mentioned were finished. Is it hard to understand that there could be more songs that are existing in a state of not being entirely finished than there are songs that are entirely finished?

And as for what those signs would be, numerous quotes from band members and others as well as leaks.

Again, "more or less" might be meaningful in the case of any other band.  With GN'R, it's practically worthless.  I don't care if there are 150 songs 96% completed.  If that remaining 4% to complete involves needing vocal from Axl, you may as well throw your argument in the bin.

If "numerous quotes from band members and others(??)" is the foundation of your point, I'd suggest you've learned very little with regard to this band in the past three decades.  If reality were based on Fortus quotes, they'd have added approximately forty-two completed albums to their official discography since 2002.

15 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I don't think anyone here is claiming there are more than 28 finished songs from the CD sessions. What is it with fighting straw men today? 

All signs point to there being 2-3 albums of music more or less finished in 2008. I don't think anyone is in disagreement on that. The disagreement lies more in what happened to the those songs that weren't entirely finished after 2008, including now recently. I would argue none of us knows exactly, but if we trust the rumours and qoutes on a new album being in the works, And Slash saying he has worked on lots of songs, then it isn't unlikely that a complete album exists now. 

No one is claiming that there are more than 28 finished songs from the CD sessions,  yet "all signs" point to the existence of not one, but potentially TWO additional albums, of finished material?  How does that math work, and, what are these so-called signs?   

CD has 14 songs.  That leaves, according to you, since apparently no one is claiming more than 28 finished songs, how many?  Fourteen more.

So, again, no one is claiming there are more than 28 completed songs, and yet, apparently, all signs and rumors point to and additional two albums.

I'm horrible at math, but, since we established that there are fourteen remaining songs to work with, since no one is claiming more than 28, of course, your two additional albums would contain.....

Seven songs each?!?

Anyone citing rumors and signs pointing to two or three additional albums must therefore inherently believe that there are more than 28 songs completed, no?

As a long-time fan, I can understand being ecstatic at the prospect of some lost GN'R epic just waiting to be unearthed, but, folks, it's been pretty evident to me, since at least 2013, with the Bumblefoot leaks of OMG and Silkworms, that there just wasn't going to be this gigantic swath of finished material.

Ideas?  Thousands. Instrumentals?  Likely number in the hundreds.  Finished songs, complete with vocals?  All told, I'd be shocked if there were more than 28 or so.

I know everyone wants to assume that there is a Prince-like vault of sparkling gems, and, I would really love that to be the case, but, I don't believe it's a coincidence that almost every leak that has escaped the studio has largely contained the same songs over and over.  I know there have been exceptions, but, by and large, we seem to have some trouble coming to terms with the fact that the same batch of songs were sculpted, polished, chiseled away at, and polished again, for years.

I know a few of you will shoot back with song titles, old quotes, interviews, etc.  Please don't bother.  I've seen every one, read 'em all. Heard Axl talk about A-lists and B-lists, heard various band members over the years throw out percentages, likelihoods...It's all...a musician speaking.

Look, I get it.  I love reading interviews from my favorite artists.  I eat it all up!  Same time, let's be real...I don't know how many musicians everyone has been around in the real world, but, we're talking about....musicians! Are we really pinning our hopes on the fact that Tommy Fkn Stinson said that there were X number of songs in some interview in NME or Spin in 2008?

Axl himself may have said there were 28 or 32 "A-List" songs.  There very well may be, except, maybe eight or nine of them were 80% there and maybe only needed a vocal and a mix.  In that case, you may as well say they had 400 songs...who cares?  If this were almost any other band, you could knock those out in four days.  Him?  They could be sitting on a zip drive somewhere in Laguna Beach, 80% done in 2004, still needing that 20%.  Good luck getting him to sing on those!

Hope I'm proven wrong, contrary to what some of you may think, but, I'll believe it when I see it, and, so far, all evidence points to not all that much beyond what we already have. It sucks, and it's such a monumental waste, but, so far, at least, it's the truth.

- UYI boxset

- More touring off of past glories

- The window washer and her parasitic offspring will each get a new BMW 

Here we go...Another year of delusions & excuses!

Happy new year, marks!

dis MFer was high as FUQ writing that

Y'all are cringe-infested

Finally, the big guns, yo!

Pele is talking about some songs, a singer, and a rock n' roll band., yet I see many (though not all) who either disagree with the stance, or are frustrated by the frequency of the posts, often hurling personal insults.

Why is that acceptable?

If he's breaking some forum rule, ban him.  If he's not, but, you don't like what he's saying, ignore it.

No one is compelling anyone to continually quote his posts, and, yet, many of you continue to compulsively do so, as though Axl will one day acknowledge your defense of him in public.

Just give it a rest on both sides for a while, at least...cripes!

In a year's time, when we get two more songs, the same lot of you will be on here, rationalizing that Axl was definitely going to put out a new album next year, before Pele's words hurt his feelings and caused an imbalance to the band's aura.

16 hours ago, Free Bird said:

You sure, you ain't got Alzheimer's?

Well, look, I mean, I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast, ya know, so....could be!

Been a fan for over three decades, so, I'm gonna check everything out that these guys do regardless.  Doesn't mean I'm a heretic if I don't love it all, though.

This new one hasn't been a favorite so far.  I find the two singles to be pretty stock.

Just one opinion.

Does anyone actually remember any of these songs five minutes after hearing them?  This sounds like it belongs on a School of Rock Rock Guitar 101 compilation.

Dug the video, thanks for sharing.

Is the Moonwalker cabinet yours?  Loved the Smooth Criminal special powers, stages, and outfits on that LOL

Thanks, bubba...will check this out later on.

7 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I haven't had the chance to meet darknemus in person (I was at the first Hammerstein show btw) but behind the scenes online, nemus has always been a stand up dude to me. Helluva guy in my book. 

He drop out of the fandom in the down years I wasn't around?  Living under an assumed name?  Online alias?  Pele, is that you?!?

BTW, awesome you were at the show.  Wish we could jump in George Carlin's Bill & Ted phone booth back to 2006, have a chat in person, and enjoy those gigs all over again.

Special days.

Just now, Pele said:

How did you know?  Did you mention the forum?

Of course!  While we were dance-walking to the seat!  Thanked him for the leaks, too!

Lots of opinions out there about the guy within the fandom, but, I can only judge people by how they personally treat folks in real life, and, in that moment, he was a gem.

Quick funny story about that 2006 Hammerstein run - this one's  especially for the old-timers - since we're looking to change the subject.

I'm sitting in the balcony for night three, right?  Now...I can walk up and down steps, but, standing upright going down steps at shows can be really daunting for me.

Anyway, struggling to maintain balance, holding onto the rail, when a seemingly random dude runs up, grabs my arm, literally holds my hand, and walks me down to my seat.

That seemingly random dude?  darknemus!

Yes, a truly chivalrous gentleman, indeed! 

Just now, Rovim said:

you're shitting on it for your own amusement, friend. It's not very pleasant imo, but please, carry on. You have every right to do so, of course.

What, exactly, am I "shitting on"?   Certainly not Guns N' Roses.

You don't know me from Adam, but, I guess you're right. 

I stole my buddy's sister's Appetite tape when I was 8, had GN'R on a birthday cake when I was 10, drove my wheelchair in Manhattan for four nights in 2006, walked around on canes until my legs were burning,  with my wife and I enduring a wild mosh pit up front in our wheelchairs on night one (Robin dove over the rail, directly into our laps during the encore and I kissed his forehead after thanking him for sticking around...),  all because I want nothing more in my life than to shit on GN'R for my own amusement.

4 minutes ago, Rovim said:

I was hoping my reply will be informative enough for you to stop complaining about how boring it is to discuss Gn'R in a forum dedicated to discussing Gn'R thus making it productive.

So...feel free to discuss GN'R, but, only in the manner in which we see fit. 

Database codes are infinitely more interesting.  Let's return to those.

1 minute ago, Free Bird said:

Avoiding a thread because of one dude? First of all I had to avoid the forum because he contaminates every thread. Imagine everybody would avoid it, you and Pele were alone here. 

I do my best not to respond because that's just feeding the troll and I think it's the best acting the same when it comes to you.

Are you his mother? Or what's wrong with you both?

 

Did I insult you?  I don't believe I did.

8 minutes ago, Rovim said:

every now and then you get a few posters who come here to discuss how boring it is to discuss Gn'R. Very productive use of their time and informative and entertaining for the rest of us. I guess it's another effective way to feel good about oneself.

Having been here since at least 2004 (I think I remember having an account here even earlier than that.  I believe the board was reset at some point?), I definitely wouldn't characterize myself as someone who pops in now and again to talk about how boring GN'R is, although, I'm admittedly not as engaged here as I was from the early aughts to around 2010 or so.

Having said that, how productive and informative is it for one to point out how lame someone's opinion is?  It's the same empty calorie trash heap no matter which side of the mountain you're standing on.

40 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

The activity level means nothing when it's all the same bullshit spreaded.

OK, sure.   What else is there to discuss, though?  It's a freaking forum.  Bullshit is the point.

That's all we're doing here.  That's all any of us are doing here.

Do you think there's gonna be some huge news broken in this thread that your eyes will somehow pass over and you'll miss out on because of Pele's posts?

If anyone doesn't like the BS, why not simply try to avoid it and post in another thread?  Maybe starting your own thread about a different, fascinating GN'R-related topic and see how it goes?

Make a cool thread and I'll be happy to post there.  Otherwise, I couldn't care any less about GN'R's anti-social media thread or toy trucks.