Rayno

My World is a way more suitable for the nonGNR audience.

Are you high?

Now this is interesting. The author writes:

45. “You Ain’t the First,” Use Your Illusion I (1991)

Are you listening, Fred Durst? This is how you write a gross song about heartlessly discarding a sexual partner.

Side note: I’m not 100% sure who yells “To the bar!” at the end (Duff maybe?), but I’ve always loved that they left it in there.

I believe Duff is the one answering to this whereas Slash is the one yelling "To the bar!" What do you think?

Thank you. Maybe you should change the title. Sir.

Does anyone here know anything about these books about Izzy?

https://www.libristo.cz/cs/kniha/izzy-stradlin_32288740

https://www.libristo.cz/cs/kniha/come-izzy-stradlin-1-flashback_16461120

On 1/12/2022 at 2:53 AM, Nintari said:

I am basing my opinion on my own ears, not the accepted "mythology". As I said, I hear bits and pieces of GNR in Slash and Duff's music. But only bits and pieces. I don't hear complete songs that sound like anything on AFD and UYI. However, on Izzy's records, I do. And it's quite often.

But the part I think I failed to make clear is that even if Izzy's music sounds more like GNR on the whole, that doesn't mean those songs sound like complete GNR tracks. They don't. They sound like what they are: complete skeletons of what could be GNR tracks if Slash and Duff and Axl were apart of it.

I guess my argument is that Izzy was obviously responsible for building the bulk of the music (outside of Axl's piano stuff, of course), and that Slash and Duff were more complimentary. Sort of like a Christmas tree. Izzy provided the tree. Slash and Duff provided the ornaments. 

The christmas tree metaphore is a nice one. Duff says in his autobiography very clearly they were not able to write the old GNR way without Izzy. Slash said repeatedly the preVR sessions instantly and organically morphed into creating the best GNR record ever (Izzy came with skeletons of songs and they worked on them together). On the other hand Izzy's role in the band became smaller and smaller as years went by but we all know that.

The beginning of This I Love. Always have goosebumps when hearing it.

"Where's Dizzy?"

16 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

The only kid of GnR members who has any musical talent is London Hudson. I think eventually he'll become a big name drummer.

Disagree. Grace McKagan is amazingly talented, so is Frankie Clarke. Adler, Stradlin and Rose have no kids that we're aware of.

On 11/30/2021 at 8:24 PM, downzy said:

Changed titled so as not to give anyone false hope that GNR is releasing awesome concert footage from 1987-1993.  

I don't think any sane individual could believe such unrealistic scenario.

This is an interesting part:

The public has no idea what went into Steven's parts and the notion of getting through songs in rehearsal if ever, with no exaggeration, was unfortunately a nightmare that neither I or Izzy could take, and eventually the others as well, though they lasted longer for other reasons.

For some reason I always thought Izzy was the only member who voted against Steven being fired.

6 minutes ago, youngswedishvinyl said:

Well, it's just my opinion isn't it?

I thought it was utter trash.

Yeah, exactly - just your opinion. 

On 11/24/2021 at 6:30 PM, youngswedishvinyl said:

I just read the ebook version of this I got back when it was originally released and posted a review of it over on Goodreads and thought I might post it here as well

I went in to this book liking Matt Sorum and after the 300 or so pages this book contains ended up really disliking him. 

In this fairly poorly written autobiography Sorum manages to involuntary present himself as the asshole in just about every social encounter he finds himself in. He also manages to re-write history and make himself seem like he was the main member of just about every band he's ever been in. That combined with how he in an obvious way lets his current day thoughts about former band members influence how he writes about them makes this book feel like a 300 page long fictionalized declaration of what a cool and good guy he is. It doesn't exactly help the book that Sorum writes about his sex life like he is a 13 year old kid who just lost his virginity either. Just about every chapter (even those that really doesn't need it) includes several stories about girls he's slept with, often written in a braggy tone.

It becomes painfully obvious that Matt Sorum is a man without any sense of self-distance that has written one of the worst rock biographies out there. With that said though, the book still has some enjoyable parts. When Sorum describes his first tours he manages to convey the feeling of a young musician getting his first taste of success, the chapter of him smuggling drugs to Hawaii during the mid-80s is something that stands out from your average rock biography and the chapter about recording the Use Your Illusion records gives an interesting insight into the creation of two of the early 90s most celebrated records.  Apart from that Double Talkin' Jive is nothing but a poorly written watered down version of every rock biography that's ever been written.

Let's hope that the re-release of this book is severely re-written, otherwise it may be better off shelved with just a few copies out there for those who managed to get the ebook in the short amount of time it was up on Amazon.

I am not saying Matt's book is a great read but this is too harsh.

That twitter account is a GREAT source of rare stuff. Thank you.

3 hours ago, Ninjapie24 said:

Didn’t Rob Halford do a couple shows with Sabbath? That would be much more of a “fill-in” than Gillan 

Yep, you're right. Completely forgot about that.

"In November 1992, BLACK SABBATH played two concerts with Halford on vocals as the support act for Ozzy Osbourne on the last shows for Osbourne's "No More Tours" tour in Costa Mesa, California. Rob sang for SABBATH after Dio, who was the band's vocalist at the time, refused to take the stage."

Wondering if the audience had to listen some Sabbath songs twice during the night.

3 hours ago, CAFC Nick said:

Really interesting article and only appropriate it mentions Axl stepping in for AC/DC.

Seriously has there ever been a more box-office substitute than Axl Rose and stepping in for such a legendary band? Sometimes I can’t believe I actually got to see it with my own eyes!

Well, Gillan joined Black Sabbath but I guess it is different as he became a permanent member.

11 hours ago, Coma16 said:

At the same time, RHCP fans are hyped for consistently getting 65 minute concerts from their band. Granted, it's non-stop 65 minutes of excellence!

Except for the singer.

Oh wait...

On 9/10/2021 at 12:12 AM, JaxTeller said:

3) Beta's relationship with Susan ? I do remember that something happened between Susan and Beta and mama was pissed off but I can't remember what exactly.

Really? Didn't know that. Anyone?

Doesn't sound like Axl to me. Not at all. Never. No.

It's pretty evident that SMKC are on a higher level when it comes to pure technical stuff/tight band things. Because they have a great drummer and a great singer (you don't necessarily need to LIKE his voice/tone but at least he delivers every night). Of course Frank CAN play and Axl IS still Axl as a person but that was not the question.

Absurd.

9 hours ago, Pele said:

Please!

Ok, you've named your source so you might as well tell us what you claim 'Zodiac 13' to be now called.

What exactly are you two trying to do here?

3 hours ago, Dangom1 said:

I never understood why they haven't played Pretty tied up, suits axls current voice perfectly Imo

And the lyrics suit the bands current situation perfectly, too.

On 9/9/2021 at 8:45 PM, Frankfurt93 said:

 

You are the reason I think this forum became a nut house.

I am not even German dumbass, but good job insulting a whole nation.

Good thing your sense of humor is so good, maybe you can share some more of your xenophobic humor and get yourself banned 

"...insulting a whole nation..."

"...xenophobic humor..."

"...banned..."