highway blues Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Seems that rap has gone very commercial and has become a huge cliche these daysnt to mention magazines are starting to realize the repetitve formula in rappers albums wich means boring music is being made.What the chance rap will fall in popularity like glam metal did? looks like its following the same trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAC185 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 All music goes in cycles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway blues Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 if the next trend is techno ill shoot my self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) if the next trend is techno ill shoot my self.techno and hip hop have been around waaay too long to be considered trends. i think its really disrespectful to hip hop as a genre thats been around since the early 70s to be called a trend. it aint riverdance, it aint tae bo, it aint girl power, its a generational identity and a culture and a valid form of art. on many levels. Edited October 4, 2007 by ffrankwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway blues Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 its more of a culture than it is an artsince when is singing over samples over other artists music an art? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 its more of a culture than it is an artsince when is singing over samples over other artists music an art?1) it isnt specifically or exclusively other peoples music2) the mixing and composition of said samples is where the art lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) It's been around for almost 30 years. Rap is as institutionalized a genre as rock or pop. As hair bands came and went within rock, particular trends will do the same within rap and hip hop. But the overall genre is not in any danger. Edited October 4, 2007 by Angelica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) It's been around for almost 30 years. Rap is as institutionalized a genre as rock or pop. As hair bands came and went within rock, particular trends will do the same within rap and hip hop. But the overall genre is not in any danger.Yep.Lil Jon's Crunk shit for example, will be forgotten within the next year, if it ain't already forgotten and dead. Rap itself will stay. Edited October 4, 2007 by Spoon87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 rap is here to stay for a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyslash Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 i thought that myself, especially when you see white kids dressing gangsta.....god, thats all there is in my school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Whereas rock is dead, and probably will be totally forgotten except as a novelty within the next 20-30 years, just a longer lived form of Disco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean-16 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) long live theee metal Edited October 4, 2007 by Dean-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfan Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) Rap wont be completely dead it will always have an audience. but it's days on top are coming to a halt. i think it's decline in mainstream popularity is approaching. it will probably lower down to heavy metal status. Edited October 4, 2007 by crazyfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Never been a big fan of rap, but I do like some of it. I don't see it going away anytime soon.I think the main reason hair-metal went away was the hair/makeup stuff, and the music fellout of favor in the mainstream. People got tired of seeing male rock stars wearing make-up, and we all know the hairlinesare going to recede. What were left with is the music, some of it was good, some bad. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Whatever the mainstream rap is right now is what i think will have the same fate as hair metalnot hiphop as a whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Rambler Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I think itl fade from the mainstream, if it does i think itl get some credidbilkity back and maybe be looked upoon as an art form again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeping stone Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 [ffrankwhite] can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Jazz? (you said valid )no ....don't tell me it's rap? those aliens were already there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydude Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 let's hope so. i hate rap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 [ffrankwhite] can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Jazz? (you said valid )no ....don't tell me it's rap? those aliens were already there? i also said post-war sweetie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyMonk Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 (edited) can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Electronica? ( ) B) Edited October 6, 2007 by FunkyMonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassLikeHot Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Fergie. Fergie is her own genre because she has TitBlog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 (edited) can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Electronica? ( ) B)yet earlier we had hip hop written off as not a valid genre but an offshoot of disco (a longer lived form of disco i think is what was exactly said of it), a lot of the same dubious applications of logic can be made with electronica too. basically the point i'm trying to make is that there are TONS of these genres but a lot of the "die hard rock fans" seem to just ignore the existence of all these genres or somehow refer to them as trends and fads or attempt to devalue their artistic merit in the shadow of their beloved rock n roll. as is rock n roll happened and then thats it, theres been no other valid forms of music in post-war western culture, which is bullshit. your dead right, electronica is a perfectly valid form of music. Edited October 6, 2007 by ffrankwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeping stone Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 [ffrankwhite] can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Jazz? (you said valid )no ....don't tell me it's rap? those aliens were already there? i also said post-war sweetie Baby, it's only after the war that studies began to show that jazz was an authentic music.....not sure which war though! I knew the answer anyway, we talked about this in the hip hop thread just wanted to take an easy shot, just missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 [ffrankwhite] can i ask a question of all you die hard rock fans. what valid genre of music has come out of the post war western world OTHER than rock n roll?Jazz? (you said valid )no ....don't tell me it's rap? those aliens were already there? i also said post-war sweetie Baby, it's only after the war that studies began to show that jazz was an authentic music.....not sure which war though! I knew the answer anyway, we talked about this in the hip hop thread just wanted to take an easy shot, just missed leave it up to the French huh? :xmasssanta: kidding, you know i love you really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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