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I like them quite a bit. Operation: Mindcrime is the only album from them I'd call "great", though. Empire has a few great songs, but seems to be littered with filler. "Jet City Woman" from Empire is about my favorite song from them, though. Their pre-Mindcrime material is definitely not meant to be looked over, though. It has some of their heaviest, fastest songs back when you could actually call them a Heavy Metal band and less of a Hard Rock band.

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