Just to be different

[Shearaxl]

Load of bull

[kevdo242]

They're good but not THAT good. Their songs are too simplistic. Whatever happened to the anarchy in punk?? When punk started The Sex Pistols sang "I am an anti-Christ, I am an anarchist" but now Simple Plan sing "Shut up". But then again I respect Green Day more than Simple Plan.

[nunchuck]

there is no band better than the sex pistols...period...green day are not even worth consideration...the music he did post-pistols is amazing, because it is orignal, it is not wankery by any stretch of the imagination, it's free and adventurous and a step away from the boredom in rock n roll. public image was far from tossed out, it was well defined, worked on, cultivated and i challenge anybody to show me ANY music just half as adventurous as that, half as orignal, half as groundbreaking, in terms of progressive music, Public Image Limited are like Gods, all of em...

First Issue  = killing rock n roll

Metal Box = dance/dub/dirge music

Flowers of romance = the eeriest most orignal shit i have ever heard.

Public Image Limited were better than the sex pistols in that sense, in that they did more for the progression of music, people disliked it a lot for the simple fact that there was so little that sounded anything like it, theres no reference point, theres no clear influence there (although the music of Can and a lot of dub reggae can possibly be cited) it's this sorta shit that does somethin for music as an art...there is so much fear in music, people are afraid of trying something new, ANYTHING can be music, it's just organised noise, people r too afraid of pissing off their fanbases or offending sensibilities or breaking rules to even dare to create the consistently orignal product that ol' uncle rotten has given us...and so what if he has a mansion in LA? what is he contradicting by buying a mansion? punk is the attitude of adventure and invention, its got nothing to do with how much money the person has...the other thing is, d'ya know where john came from? his background? living in shacks in Ireland without a toilet, livin in crumbling storefronts in finsbury park, getting meningitis cuz the housing conditions are so bad that he got infected by rats pissing in the water.  he usta be a rat killer when he was 11...he was poor as fuck and despite all these odds he's risen above and made something of himself to be proud of, only for people to pass judgement on the way he makes his living, he's not robbed stolen or cheated a penny of the money he has earned...what is it, that he's working class, he should just stay in his projects and dilapidated houses....thats bullshit man, when ur from the shit, u want out of it...anyone thats ever been truly broke before knows what im talkin' about.  John has not compromised a single solitary principle throughout his time in music...and the whole hippy thing that the punk generation objected to was what the hippies ended up as, not what they began as....their music was generally folk based or based on musicianmanship....which the pistols objected to because it was following a set of rules and just perfecting them with lyrics that seemed to mean nothing about nothing and hard to relate to for the ordinary music fan...it was far detached from reality....Public Image on the other hand stepped outside musicianmanship and used the instruments in new and orignal ways, not necessarily following structured musical progressions...inventing with instruments, stepping outside of the bounds of the rules of rock n roll. when u don't understand something, don't label it as wankery and have done with it, TRY to understand it...maybe it's something important.  personally i find music i understand to be throughly boring...its neither here nor there, it just is what it is, u understand it, so it's done...dusted.  but things u don't understand are interesting cuz u actually learn something from em.  give me a tuneless racket to a nice 3 chord ditty any day...the tuneless racket takes more understanding.

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I still admire Lydon very much and he will be always be a personal hero of mine. I agree PIL have made some extremely diverse music, some of it worthwhile, some nonsensical, at least to my tiny brain. I have personally gone through the phase of listening to stuff JUST BECAUSE it is original, it doesn't always nescacarily make for exciting music, and you will often be left yearning for a tune. Im all for originality (and i admit green day rip off a lot of old rock n roll stuff) but at the end of the day, there has to be some sort of melody there, otherwise every wanker you know would be able to form a band, bash out any old noise and call it art.

Perhaps im just not punk man, hey, perhaps im even conforming here but nothing beats a killer tune and hook, as long as there is enough of your own ideas in there.

But then, i always did prefer The Ramones outlook to the Pistols/Lydon anyway...

BTW i forgot to say, he is now a FAT slob residing in his mansion in L.A who makes apperances on trashy TV shows made for washed up celebrities (i fucking loved him on that!)

[murray_TH]

I hate them (Green Day) too. Especially all the gurny face pulling.

The music isn't really what I'd call "challenging". It's just the same old same old.

Still... they have more money than me...

Edited July 30, 2005 by murray_TH

[Eliza]

I hate Green Day! I´m a Sex Pistols/Ramones fan, so i´m so pissed off of those who come to tell me,that Green Day or Good Charlotte is punk....

[rocketsredglare]

simplicity is not a crime...and if ur left yearning for a tune then foolin' urself by listenin' to the shit...and they do provide solutions...the solution is be urself, be an individual..melody is rule-bullshit, we've had enough melody, 50 yrs of melody, and why can't every wanker do it? maybe then music'd advance and go somewhere...change the entire structure. fat slob? probably, yes but how is that reflection on his music? ur not obliged to judge the lifestyles of entertainers, only products.

[Bucketslash]

In the words of the exploited,rearranged by matt,"PUNK IS DEAD,GREEN DAY KILLED IT,PUNK AND JOHNNY RAMONE"

All our hope lies with the dk`s

but seriously,green day must die,they used to call themselves alternative(INSULT TO RHCP,REM,SOUNDGARDEN,HUSKER DU and every other alternatinative band(new wave and grunge) THAT DOSEN`T SUCK)

thier not punk,thier sell outs,and the sound isn`t loud fast,it`s not even loud

they shouldn`t even be pop rock,i`d rather wash my ear with a q-tip filled with paint thinner to the ear drum than listen to green day

[nunchuck]

In the words of the exploited,rearranged by matt,"PUNK IS DEAD,GREEN DAY KILLED IT,PUNK AND JOHNNY RAMONE"

All our hope lies with the dk`s

but seriously,green day must die,they used to call themselves alternative(INSULT TO RHCP,REM,SOUNDGARDEN,HUSKER DU and every other alternatinative band(new wave and grunge) THAT DOSEN`T SUCK)

thier not punk,thier sell outs,and the sound isn`t loud fast,it`s not even loud

they shouldn`t even be pop rock,i`d rather wash my ear with a q-tip filled with paint thinner to the ear drum than listen to green day

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The Exploited suck ass, they are what's known as postcard punks, the singer has a fucking swastika tattoo, and if their music isn't all the same then i don't know what is.

So are they punks because of the mohicans? christ, some people just don't get it.

[Bucketslash]

hey,sex and violence beats the hell outta american idiot,($20 says green day couldn`t play it)

nut it`s even an insult to pop,if i were ashley simpson i`d grab the lead and throw him outta a 50 floor window of a hotel

besides,if the exploited lead singer was that aweful, we`d see comparisons in his hair to axl`s orange dreadlocks by cd haters/bashers

In any case,thier not punk,if they didn`t have a drummer that could play a beat,they wouldn`t even be music

Edited July 31, 2005 by Bucketslash

[there is no dana only zool]

Once and for all, is there anyone out there who doesn't like Green Day?

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i hate greenday but i like you so it balances it out lol.

[Ruby Rose]

i dont h8 them , theyr just not my thing

[nunchuck]

hey,sex and violence beats the hell outta american idiot,($20 says green day couldn`t play it)

nut it`s even an insult to pop,if i were ashley simpson i`d grab the lead and throw him outta a 50 floor window of a hotel

besides,if the exploited lead singer was that aweful, we`d see comparisons in his hair to axl`s orange dreadlocks by cd haters/bashers

In any case,thier not punk,if they didn`t have a drummer that could play a beat,they wouldn`t even be music

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Im trying my upmost best to make sense of this post...but it just ain't gonna happen!

[nunchuck]

Once and for all, is there anyone out there who doesn't like Green Day?

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i hate greenday but i like you so it balances it out lol.

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Finallly! congratulations on an original post in this thread!