fridayfan13 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 sweet, they can never try to deny it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Gunner Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 bla...bla...bla....Axl , I want Slash back in GNR........please Axl, don't make me cut off my Mullet........I will lick yer ass if you hired Slash back................Please Axl. rock2 bla...bla...bla...bla......AXL......Please!This is rich coming from a kid who has Buckethead as his avatar and signature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 bla...bla...bla....Axl , I want Slash back in GNR........please Axl, don't make me cut off my Mullet........I will lick yer ass if you hired Slash back................Please Axl. rock2 bla...bla...bla...bla......AXL......Please!This is rich coming from a kid who has Buckethead as his avatar and signature... screw you OG, Funral is awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Kin Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Original Gunner your posts are laughable and very scary when the occasion arises, I could scare all of you...but not now because "they" have given my first warning thingy!! so Charlies on his best behaviour for a bit...Oh that sucks CM, you're at your very best when mis-behaving I know dude!! all because I requested an instremental leak and threatened to kill everyone on the forum...I mean whats up with that?? That seems perfectly acceptable to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 :i'm an axl rose wannabe' That's funny Sad but true!! He looks like Almost Famous in that pic.As for the letter - this isn't the first time there's been an issue with something that Scott posted. Remember the election thing? R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Axl Kev Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Velvet Revolver Rock.Guns N' Roses Rock.That's all there is to it for me. Axl should never have posted the statement in the first place. It was asking for trouble and now a stupid little bitching fest has started. Lame! Grow up and release music you bunch of old rock stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illusions Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 good job slash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) I doubt they ever expected to keep Scott's response out there forever. They put out a response to a specific incident, it got it's press and attention and then you remove. If and when Slash makes a statement regarding this, I doubt they'll keep it posted forever. I don't think this is an issue either side should want to dwell on. It's hardly an Axl highlight, and both camps(hopefully) have bigger missions to focus on... Edited March 15, 2006 by Turn_It_Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rylz Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 i think that letter definitely did VR more harm then anything because lots of VR's fans are GNR fans and me along with many others would have lost a lot of respect for scott after that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Gunner Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Unfortunatley, the reality is that Axl is not a decent human being (as he fully admits himself),Do you actually know Axl? Or are you basing your opinion on rumors and speculation?I've read articles over the years that shows he is a 'decent human being'.Well i'm basing it on documented facts like this..."Sometimes there's these girls backstage going,"I love you". I feel like saying,"Honey if you knew me,you would hate my f***ing guts" - Axl Rose 1989.And his ex Stephanie Seymour getting a restraining order against him in fear for her own safety.And the comments from VH-1's Behind the Music where Slash tells of Axl's insane meglamania where he would threaten to quit the band if the other members didn't do as he said. The list is endless...So you can make your own mind up from those examples. However, from a musical point of view i still love the guy to death. From a personal one i wouldn't want to know him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsfury Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hey Original Gunner,What's with all the paternal dialogue, calling everyone "kid"?Lame if that is all you can come up with for putting someone down for liking the new guns. I also notice you never address me or my comments in the threads. Must be cause I know what I'm talking about and make some sense.Guns is not and never will be what you want them to be. So when they become big again, don't go and see them. Don't buy the album. Let others enjoy, while you continue to enjoy Appetite.Axl should not change the name or go solo. He was and is the heart and soul of guns. Slash and co left cause they didn't want to change. Same old shit a la VR.So enjoy VR and all the old material. Many of us want to expand into new territory.Get some new material too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) Robin Finck is the lead guitar player.I rest my case. I'm yet to hear any of Finck's guitar work with NIN so i can't really picture him taking on Slash's cannon of work. In a best case scenario the notes might be there but the feel and emotion certainly won't be... I don't know dude, if you haven't heard his work then maybe don't judge it. Finck absolutely butchered Slash's fantastic solos during the 2002 tour. He was fair game for that. But I have always said that I don't really care about this. The most important thing is whether he can write some good solos for the album. That was what Slash did best, he came up with magical solos. While I don't think the stuff we've heard in the new demos ranks up there with what Slash can do, I also don't think it's realistic to expect that. The new solos are great. They are GN'R worthy and that's the main thing.To this day I've been one of the bigger Slash defenders on this forum, but your posts are getting tiresome even for me. Better and CITR are fantastic songs, as is The Blues. These are as good as any other GN'R song. Axl has proven to me that I should put my faith in him. Truth is I never really doubted him, I've supported him for years now, but I needed the kick in the ass these songs gave me. They have me thinking again that this album has what it takes to be truly massive, and I just wasn't sure if that was possible before. It's gotten to the point where it matters less and less to me who is on this album. I just wanna hear what Axl's got. When he's done with this little project (one album, two, or even three) then it's time to consider a reunion. Have the old band reunite and not getting Chinese Democracy is not ideal either. This is almost a decade in the making, and what I've heard so far is great. I want to hear the finished product and if Axl thinks this band has what it takes then that's good enough for me. Sure, I'd love Slash back...but the goal right now is Chinese Democracy. You don't come this far only to throw that away. CD is coming man, deal with it. Edited March 16, 2006 by KBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsfury Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 People forget Slash fucked up solos too. Listen to the Tokyo show. Brutal at some points. No one is perfect. Finck has the soul and the commitment that Guns deserves. Let him prove he has what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Gunner Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) I also notice you never address me or my comments in the threads. All good things to those that wait kid . Hey, I haven't noticed your comments until now so that's the reason why. Anyway, welcome!Axl should not change the name or go solo. He was and is the heart and soul of guns. Slash and co left cause they didn't want to change. Same old shit a la VR.First up, you obviously don't understand the dynamics of a classic band. One member does not carry the load of a great group. It's about chemistry within and every member plays an integral part. As i've said before there's a reason why Led Zep never carried on after their drummer died and they could've had anyone they wanted (this is not a comparison of Adler/Sorum to Bonham btw). The only people who THINK G'N'R is Axl are those too young to have seen them first hand and understand the integrity and chemistry of the original guys. It was a brotherhood of equals. Now it's a puppet show of no names with a famous has-been pulling the strings.Secondly, where does this crap about other band members not wanting to change come from? Has Slash or anyone else involved ever stated that that's why they all bailed? They just got tired of Axl and waiting around to rock for over 10 years! it's all documented. You talk like these guys are stuck in the stoneage and incapable of evolving musically which is utter nonsense. You don't have to be Trent fucking Reznor or Moby to create cutting edge music. These guys are seasoned pros who can play and innovate. They just choose to ROCK hard!Get some new material too.OK, but can i have 13 years? I mean it's only fair seeing as you've given Axl that long right? Edited March 16, 2006 by Original Gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastar Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) I also notice you never address me or my comments in the threads. All good things to those that wait kid . Hey, I haven't noticed your comments until now so that's the reason why. Anyway, welcome!Axl should not change the name or go solo. He was and is the heart and soul of guns. Slash and co left cause they didn't want to change. Same old shit a la VR.First up, you obviously don't understand the dynamics of a classic band. One member does not carry the load of a great group. It's about chemistry within and every member plays an integral part. As i've said before there's a reason why Led Zep never carried on after their drummer died and they could've had anyone they wanted (this is not a comparison of Adler/Sorum to Bonham btw). The only people who THINK G'N'R is Axl are those too young to have seen them first hand and understand the integrity and chemistry of the original guys. It was a brotherhood of equals. Now it's a puppet show of no names with a famous has-been pulling the strings.Secondly, where does this crap about other band members not wanting to change come from? Has Slash or anyone else involved ever stated that that's why they all bailed? They just got tired of Axl and waiting around to rock for over 10 years! it's all documented. You talk like these guys are stuck in the stoneage and incapable of evolving musically which is utter nonsense. You don't have to be Trent fucking Reznor or Moby to create cutting edge music. These guys are seasoned pros who can play and innovate. They just choose to ROCK hard!Get some new material too.OK, but can i have 13 years? I mean it's only fair seeing as you've given Axl that long right? Original Gunner, have you been watching School of Rock......AGAIN?I think it's time you try out another film, honestly there are other good films out there. I know that you may not be ready for such a big change so I'll list some movies that you might want to check out to make the transition smooth...Angels In The OutfieldSurf Ninjas Suburban Commando-Enjoy Edited March 16, 2006 by Ultrastar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsfury Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) I also notice you never address me or my comments in the threads. All good things to those that wait kid . Hey, I haven't noticed your comments until now so that's the reason why. Anyway, welcome!Axl should not change the name or go solo. He was and is the heart and soul of guns. Slash and co left cause they didn't want to change. Same old shit a la VR.First up, you obviously don't understand the dynamics of a classic band. One member does not carry the load of a great group. It's about chemistry within and every member plays an integral part. As i've said before there's a reason why Led Zep never carried on after their drummer died and they could've had anyone they wanted (this is not a comparison of Adler/Sorum to Bonham btw). The only people who THINK G'N'R is Axl are those too young to have seen them first hand and understand the integrity and chemistry of the original guys. It was a brotherhood of equals. Now it's a puppet show of no names with a famous has-been pulling the strings.Secondly, where does this crap about other band members not wanting to change come from? Has Slash or anyone else involved ever stated that that's why they all bailed? They just got tired of Axl and waiting around to rock for over 10 years! it's all documented. You talk like these guys are stuck in the stoneage and incapable of evolving musically which is utter nonsense. You don't have to be Trent fucking Reznor or Moby to create cutting edge music. These guys are seasoned pros who can play and innovate. They just choose to ROCK hard!Get some new material too.OK, but can i have 13 years? I mean it's only fair seeing as you've given Axl that long right? The thing is, Axl has an ability to create chemistry with whomever he works with. He brings things out of people that they never knew existed. He methodically pushes them to reach further to create something truly excellent. Yes, old guns had that chemistry. As did Zeppelin. But what you don't seem to want to recognize is that this is what those who love him, love him for. He is one in a million. He can do things others can't. He is an extraordinary musician, and that is why people are drawn to him. Slash is a very talented guitar player, but he can't seem to do what he did in guns. He chooses to do the same old same old. I mean that last album was like, WTF where are the solos. Is this St Anger? Back on topic, Axl has that magic with whomever he works with. I mean, look at the players he has now and their backgrounds. They are all so different. And yet, he has pulled them together to make a very difficult record. Other than Bucket, no one has left in years. No offense to Slash and Duff and VR, but there stuff is forgettable for the most part. They are not in the stoneage, but seem to be in a comfortable place rehashing the same riffs. They may innovate to a small extent, but not enough.Also, they may have waited around for Axl, but maybe he waited for them to clean their drugged out acts up. They were fucked up big time. Maybe he waited and then thought, you know what, these guys and I have grown too far apart. They are no longer in line with what vision I had for Guns, to evolve and break new ground. So maybe he waited till they left. He likely had many personal issues also.I have seen the Ritz and many other shows by the original line up. You are right about the chemistry. They had it big time. But the catalyst was Axl. You just cannot deny that. It is proven in the fact that the material new guns has composed is far superior than anything by the other members, Izzy included. Period. There is only one reason why.I enjoy a healthy debate. Take it from here. Edited March 16, 2006 by axlsfury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyrose Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I found a picture of Original Gunner!! check it out... http://mudslide.150m.com/mullet.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustInTheWind928 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Scott's a fuckin bohemian ass crack sniffer. He wears tight pants and looks anarexic. On the live version of Sliver on the Letterman show during Slash's solo, he stared dancing like a goddamn stipper and slash was the pole. He tries to rip off Axl so much, so screw that ass face.People forget Slash fucked up solos too. Listen to the Tokyo show. Brutal at some points. No one is perfect. Finck has the soul and the commitment that Guns deserves. Let him prove he has what it takes.That's very true. He screwed up the "November Rain" solo so bad. It was pathetic. Robin never fucked any of his solos over. Robin's solo for "The Blues" owns anyway. Same for "Better". There's way too much emotion in there and I doubt Slash could ever recreate that emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury_hmr Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i'm an axl rose wannabe'I can name you more ........Finnish Guns N Roses, its too funnyThis guy, who opens his mouth to later act like a Hypocrite.Than there is this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 God you people are pathetic.Scott has no desire to be Axl Rose. I guess any energetic frontman is now an Axl wannabe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Volitan Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Why is scotts letter to axl removed from the official Velvet Revolver website?Dont they stand for his opinion or what?Axl probly cried to his lawyers, as usual, and threatened Scott (or whoever) to take it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash66 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i'm an axl rose wannabe'The thing is if your gonna copy someone...might as well copy the coolest frontman of all time. Mr. Axl Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryinharder Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 HAHAHAHAHA Lil' shit head probably wrote it in a heat and had second thoughts when he came to. Blip it's gone. What letter, I didn't write no letter whatcha' talkin' about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Volitan Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i'm an axl rose wannabe'The thing is if your gonna copy someone...might as well copy the coolest frontman of all time. Mr. Axl Rose.The thing is..Scott isn't copying Axl. A lot of frontmen dress/have dressed like that.if scott were really copying Axl, he'd put braids in his hair like and egyptian princess, and get a beer belly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
november Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 i'm an axl rose wannabe'The thing is if your gonna copy someone...might as well copy the coolest frontman of all time. Mr. Axl Rose.The thing is..Scott isn't copying Axl. A lot of frontmen dress/have dressed like that.if scott were really copying Axl, he'd put braids in his hair like and egyptian princess, and get a beer belly. Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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