Matty Boy Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) I think that N.W.A. are the Guns N' Roses of rap or Guns were the N.W.A. of rock. Both groups were the biggest and most controversial groups in their respective genres of music. GnR had charasmatic members like Axl, Duff, and Slash, whereas N.W.A. had charasmatic members like Eazy E, Dr Dre, and Ice Cube. Both groups had absolutely classic debut albums(Appetite for Destruction and Straight Outta Compton) which they followed up with ep's(Lies and 100 Miles and Running), and then they both disbanded after putting out albums that the critics labeled spotty and self indulgent(Use Your Illusions and hooray for tolerance!z4flife). There are many other similarities which i'm too lazy to write down but what do you guys think. If you know a lot about both groups, like myself, you have to admit that it's pretty shocking at how similar these groups careers were. Edited March 21, 2006 by Matty Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ohdistortedsmile1789 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 That's a very astute observation and thank you for pointing it out.God do I love Eazy-E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropotkin Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not similar at all, especially not "shockingly similar".NWA roughed up rap a lot more than GNR did to rock. NWA came out with revolutionary new lyrics [from Ict-T and BDP, etc.] that scandalized the whole entertainment industry.GNR saved rock from the likes of Poison and Yngwie [sp?] but that is nothing new in the history of rock, punk saved us from the New York Dolls and disco in the late 70's, and Nirvana saved us from Warrant and more mainstream, big $$ and big hair bands.I love GNR - but they did not shake up rock the way NWA shook up rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ohdistortedsmile1789 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not similar at all, especially not "shockingly similar".NWA roughed up rap a lot more than GNR did to rock. NWA came out with revolutionary new lyrics [from Ict-T and BDP, etc.] that scandalized the whole entertainment industry.GNR saved rock from the likes of Poison and Yngwie [sp?] but that is nothing new in the history of rock, punk saved us from the New York Dolls and disco in the late 70's, and Nirvana saved us from Warrant and more mainstream, big $$ and big hair bands.I love GNR - but they did not shake up rock the way NWA shook up rap.So, you have a point in one case, and you are overlooking every other similarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl04 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Hmm interesting points.ODS its all about DRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Spade Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not similar at all, especially not "shockingly similar".NWA roughed up rap a lot more than GNR did to rock. NWA came out with revolutionary new lyrics [from Ict-T and BDP, etc.] that scandalized the whole entertainment industry.GNR saved rock from the likes of Poison and Yngwie [sp?] but that is nothing new in the history of rock, punk saved us from the New York Dolls and disco in the late 70's, and Nirvana saved us from Warrant and more mainstream, big $$ and big hair bands.I love GNR - but they did not shake up rock the way NWA shook up rap.Ice-T was never A member of NWA. I think you mean Ice Cube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Boy Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Appetite for Destruction and Straight Outta Compton each had 3 huge songs. Guns had Jungle, PC, and SCOM and NWA had Straight Outta Compton, Fuck the Police, and Gangsta Gangsta. Both had killer album tracks about drugs such as Mr Brownstone and Dopeman respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironicninja Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 They both sang about police and hooray for tolerance!s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there is no dana only zool Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 First things first- NWA fucking RULED. NWA was and always will be THEE greatest rap group ever with Geto Boys as a close second...Now onto the quotation below:...[from Ict-T and BDP, etc.] that scandalized the whole entertainment industry.I'm assuming by BDP, you are speaking of Boogie Down Productions... right? And yes, ICE T was by himself. Ice Cube was NWA for the first album only until a reunion years and years later...and Nirvana saved us from Warrant and more mainstream, big $$ and big hair bands.that's not true really... Nirvana didn't actually "save" us from anyone... The only thing they did was kill- and they killed GN'R because although they were not at all on par with bands like Poison or RATT, they were closer in association with that form of rock than Nirvana was to something different that people started loving (who in the fuck knows why, anyway)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Boy Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Look at the respective group leaders, Axl and Eazy- E. Axl and Eazy had their bandmates quit on them and proceed to sue them. Both Axl and Eazy were slagged off by fellow musicians and the media after their groups fell apart. Axl was slagged off by Kurt Cobain, and Eazy E was slagged off by Snoop Dogg. Cobain and Snoop Dogg were the media darlings at the time and were portrayed as important and cutting edge, and Axl and Eazy E were portrayed as irrelevant has beens who had fallen off. Edited March 21, 2006 by Matty Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fittoburn Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ok just to play along, Dre tried to make a new nwa, with new members a few years back, having snoop replace Eazy E and rumors of MC Eiht replacing MC Ren. There was a bunch of hullabaloo and Eazys friends and family ripped it apart saying its not REALLY NWA because its not the original members. MC Ren was going to start his own NWA, but then the sides reconciled, and Ice Cube, Dre, and Ren did a song together calling themselves NWA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Projected Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Now days everybody wanna talklike they got something to saybut nothing comes out when they move their lipsjust a bunch of gibberishand mothafuckas act like they forgot about AXL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Both leaders died in the mid 90s, and Slash played with members of both bands... Here are two other interesting facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kropotkin Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Nirvana didn't actually "save" us from anyone... The only thing they did was kill- and they killed GN'RI did mean Boogie Down Productions, and agree that NWA rule - though Ice-T [& bodycount] deserve a place too.True enough - Nirvana killed GNR - and the Axl feud we all know about. I still love Nirvana, and GNR, because I like their music, and not the egos and I am not involved in their squabbles, but am free to listen to whatever I want, for whatever reason I want, including no reason at all. I guess we can agree to disagree about Nirvana.But I still maintain that NWA did **much** more to rap than GNR did to rock. But that is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Mario Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Nirvana did not "kill" Guns N' Roses. After Nirvana released Nevermind, only albums GN'R released were YUI albums, which were insanely succesful. Unless you count SPI? as a real GN'R album, which you'd be stupid to, you have absolutely no idea how Nirvana would have affected GN'R sales.And considering how well AFD has been selling over the years, it's pretty save to say Nirvana did NOT kill GN'R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Volitan Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ok just to play along, Dre tried to make a new nwa, with new members a few years back, having snoop replace Eazy E and rumors of MC Eiht replacing MC Ren. There was a bunch of hullabaloo and Eazys friends and family ripped it apart saying its not REALLY NWA because its not the original members. MC Ren was going to start his own NWA, but then the sides reconciled, and Ice Cube, Dre, and Ren did a song together calling themselves NWA.Really??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 In terms of album sales, GNR and NWA aren't probably in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there is no dana only zool Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Nirvana didn't actually "save" us from anyone... The only thing they did was kill- and they killed GN'R but am free to listen to whatever I want, for whatever reason I want, including no reason at all. I guess we can agree to disagree about Nirvana.no, no, no... definately didn't mean to sound like I was attacking your musical preference... sorry bout that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukin Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not similar at all, especially not "shockingly similar".NWA roughed up rap a lot more than GNR did to rock. NWA came out with revolutionary new lyrics [from Ict-T and BDP, etc.] that scandalized the whole entertainment industry.GNR saved rock from the likes of Poison and Yngwie [sp?] but that is nothing new in the history of rock, punk saved us from the New York Dolls and disco in the late 70's, and Nirvana saved us from Warrant and more mainstream, big $$ and big hair bands.I love GNR - but they did not shake up rock the way NWA shook up rap.Word to your mother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narc0l3pt Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I remember seeing AXL wear nwa cap in some concert and i have always had this idea that axl was supporting them widely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Back in 1989, Izzy said that N.W.A. asked permission to sample "Welcome To The Jungle" but Axl refused.(from Nick Kent's book, The Dark Stuff) Edited March 21, 2006 by Alan Niveen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pope Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 They both sang about police and hooray for tolerance!sHaa haa haa haaarolling around laffing!!!!hee hee hee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtydane Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Look at the respective group leaders, Axl and Eazy- E. Axl and Eazy had their bandmates quit on them and proceed to sue them.As cool as Eazy-E was, he never even wrote his own lyrics, not even on 187 um Killa. Im pretty sure dresta wrote the lyrics on that one. Didnt you guys ever hear that Eazy-E and Axl had done some recording together years ago? Was this ever confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Projected Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Look at the respective group leaders, Axl and Eazy- E. Axl and Eazy had their bandmates quit on them and proceed to sue them. Both Axl and Eazy were slagged off by fellow musicians and the media after their groups fell apart. Axl was slagged off by Kurt Cobain, and Eazy E was slagged off by Snoop Dogg. Cobain and Snoop Dogg were the media darlings at the time and were portrayed as important and cutting edge, and Axl and Eazy E were portrayed as irrelevant has beens who had fallen off.Also... they both died cause of AIDS!...Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 They both sang about police and hooray for tolerance!s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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