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So now I wonder through my haze

And try to find my ways

To the feelings that I've felt

I saved for you and no one else

And though as long as this road seems

I know its called the street of dreams

But thats not stardust on my feet

It leaves a taste that's bittersweet

that's called the blues

And yet another variation of The Blues... I'd like official lyrics ASAP.

Not rattin' your shiz bro... just heard so many versions now.

copy and paste lyrics from HTGTH. just trying to give a good example of where Axl uses "Helium Voice". i know what you mean though about official lyrics. i really wanna know what he says at the end of CITR.

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Leigh-Rok! FRONTMAN

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copy and paste lyrics from HTGTH. just trying to give a good example of where Axl uses "Helium Voice". i know what you mean though about official lyrics. i really wanna know what he says at the end of CITR.

:D Indeed... I've given up researching the CORRECT lyrics as everybody thinks their version's right.

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The Blues from last night's show sounds pretty good Axl-wise. He's making an effort to utilize the rasp.

The thing with Axl is that he always had voice problems. His prime singing years was before AFD was even released. If you catch any bootlegs from '85 or '86 you'll know what I mean. AFD was also recorded in '86 so he's in top form on that record. He toured heavily after that so his voice gradually wore out. Especially during '88-'93 Axl never really could hit his high notes pitch-perfectly like he did on AFD. It just came out really raspy and distorted. During the Illusions tour his voice had an extremely abrasive quality that was probably the result of a lot of wear and tear. I believe Axl's new approach to singing, the so-called "helium" tone, is a new style he developed in order to stretch his range so he could hit the high notes cleanly again and also save his voice from the extreme raspy style that damaged his voice back in the day.

The new voice lessens the strain on the pipes, but the fans have complained about the lack of strength in that style, which is why I believe Axl is pushing for more rasp now. Hopefully, he can keep it up and maintain a middle ground between the rasp and helium without losing his voice every night.

A common misconception I'm reading all over the place on these boards is that Axl's not as young as he used to be. Unless you're of full-blown senior citizen age, it shouldn't have anything to do with your vocal ability. Most males reach the peak of their vocal power in their 40's. If you sing properly, your voice should only get stronger with age. Look at James Brown. Look at all those old classical singers who can blow you off the planet with their pipes. Hopefully, Axl sticks with this voice specialist and does whatever it takes to keep his voice in shape from now on.

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A common misconception I'm reading all over the place on these boards is that Axl's not as young as he used to be. Unless you're of full-blown senior citizen age, it shouldn't have anything to do with your vocal ability. Most males reach the peak of their vocal power in their 40's. If you sing properly, your voice should only get stronger with age. Look at James Brown. Look at all those old classical singers who can blow you off the planet with their pipes. Hopefully, Axl sticks with this voice specialist and does whatever it takes to keep his voice in shape from now on.

But those guys also don't go 4 years in between gigs.

Since the turn of the century, Axl has not performed 50 times yet. That's not going to be the recipe for any sort of consistency.

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A common misconception I'm reading all over the place on these boards is that Axl's not as young as he used to be. Unless you're of full-blown senior citizen age, it shouldn't have anything to do with your vocal ability. Most males reach the peak of their vocal power in their 40's. If you sing properly, your voice should only get stronger with age. Look at James Brown. Look at all those old classical singers who can blow you off the planet with their pipes. Hopefully, Axl sticks with this voice specialist and does whatever it takes to keep his voice in shape from now on.

But those guys also don't go 4 years in between gigs.

Since the turn of the century, Axl has not performed 50 times yet. That's not going to be the recipe for any sort of consistency.

That's why he's gotta practice or at least rehearse with his band. Your voice needs to be trained and exercised so it can grow stronger and become less susceptible to damage.

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Just because he likes to party doesnt mean his voice is going to fuck up.. yeah it might.. but it might still happen if he puts his pyjamas on at a decent time.. at the end of the day.. GnR is rock n roll and thats the way Axl lives his life sometimes. At least hes not a fucking liar and just does it for show. Also he cant stop enjoying himself in fear of losing his voice..

I can only assume you're either extremely young or extremely naive or - more likely - a combination of both.

If a person has throat problems - and knows they will need their voice for a series of shows that will make or break their long-awaited rock comeback - it's just short-sighted if you don't make your throat the priority - before partying with pals. Axl even admitted it took Baz (who happens to know a LOT about vocals, vocal training, and caring for your throat) to get him help with his throat.

And hon, it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that drinking, smoking and sitting in smoke-filled rooms talking with new and old friends over loud music on little sleep - isn't going to help your throat problems go away.

this is going t o be a fucking huge tour and a major part of his life and he will make sure he has a ball doing it! ..

Actually, it will be a pretty short tour if the throat problems persist or get worse - and he can't sing.

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Just because he likes to party doesnt mean his voice is going to fuck up.. yeah it might.. but it might still happen if he puts his pyjamas on at a decent time.. at the end of the day.. GnR is rock n roll and thats the way Axl lives his life sometimes. At least hes not a fucking liar and just does it for show. Also he cant stop enjoying himself in fear of losing his voice..

I can only assume you're either extremely young or extremely naive or - more likely - a combination of both.

If a person has throat problems - and knows they will need their voice for a series of shows that will make or break their long-awaited rock comeback - it's just short-sighted if you don't make your throat the priority - before partying with pals. Axl even admitted it took Baz (who happens to know a LOT about vocals, vocal training, and caring for your throat) to get him help with his throat.

And hon, it doesn't take Einstein to figure out that drinking, smoking and sitting in smoke-filled rooms talking with new and old friends over loud music on little sleep - isn't going to help your throat problems go away.

this is going t o be a fucking huge tour and a major part of his life and he will make sure he has a ball doing it! ..

Actually, it will be a pretty short tour if the throat problems persist or get worse - and he can't sing.

Nah.. actually Im an old timer with experience.

Stop stropping!

Axl isnt going t o change for you or anyone else.. he will do it his way and you have to accept it.

There was a time when rock and roll was rock and roll.. not some MTV poncing about worrying about how we will survive the next few months. Just let it be and stop having a panic attack.

thanks for that followup madison, I couldn't find the energy...

lmao..what a sucker!

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Axl wasnt prepared for the tour lets face it. He never prepares for them always missing warmups and sound checks. Also there are surgerys out there now for performers to repair the torn Vocal cords and muscles, but theres a risk involved that you could loose everything. I think Axl's lazyness and lack of preperation and not performing at all is the cause for this.

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I think you will find.. thats called 'ROCK N ROLL!' honey. rock3

and I think you'll find.. there's a price to be paid for not taking care of your voice.

Hopefully Axl will be more careful than Liam Gallagher.

Liam fucked up his voice thru the years,going to parties,drinking tons of whiskey and smokin' cigarrettes..yeah,it's the rock n' roll life.Liam's voice was clean 10 years ago,today it's really rough.

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Axl wasnt prepared for the tour lets face it. He never prepares for them always missing warmups and sound checks.

Sorry but i don't think thats the case at all... I hope you understand that this IS the warmup... and he is prepared, did u hear ANY of the concert bootlegs so far? and also, i think his problem was that he did not take care of his voice after the first gig, i think now hel cut down a little on the partyin---- forget that, i think he will practice his voice and not take it for granted now.. :)

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Axl wasnt prepared for the tour lets face it. He never prepares for them always missing warmups and sound checks.

what tour? :huh:

tour didin't even start

Yea well its only going to get worse.

how do you know its going to get worse? :huh:

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Axl wasnt prepared for the tour lets face it. He never prepares for them always missing warmups and sound checks.

Sorry but i don't think thats the case at all... I hope you understand that this IS the warmup... and he is prepared, did u hear ANY of the concert bootlegs so far? and also, i think his problem was that he did not take care of his voice after the first gig, i think now hel cut down a little on the partyin---- forget that, i think he will practice his voice and not take it for granted now.. :)

Well we will see, If his voice is shot by the 17th then everyone for the euro tour better bring ear plugs.

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But then again, hopefully it was just a slight scare, but was nipped in the bud. I mean now that he's got Bach's vocal coach guy, he should be able to work thru it right?

Assuming he didn't do really bad damage after 4 hours of singing (counting both nights).

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Axl wasnt prepared for the tour lets face it. He never prepares for them always missing warmups and sound checks.

what tour? :huh:

tour didin't even start

Yea well its only going to get worse.

how do you know its going to get worse? :huh:

Well a voice dosent heal in less then a day. :|, I do believe Axl is playing it smart by playing songs that require less high pitched vocals, Kind of taking an easy.

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A common misconception I'm reading all over the place on these boards is that Axl's not as young as he used to be. Unless you're of full-blown senior citizen age, it shouldn't have anything to do with your vocal ability. Most males reach the peak of their vocal power in their 40's. If you sing properly, your voice should only get stronger with age. Look at James Brown. Look at all those old classical singers who can blow you off the planet with their pipes. Hopefully, Axl sticks with this voice specialist and does whatever it takes to keep his voice in shape from now on.

But those guys also don't go 4 years in between gigs.

Since the turn of the century, Axl has not performed 50 times yet. That's not going to be the recipe for any sort of consistency.

That's why he's gotta practice or at least rehearse with his band. Your voice needs to be trained and exercised so it can grow stronger and become less susceptible to damage.

and also... Axl don't sing properly.. he yells and screams and do almost everything to destroy his voice as much as possible. But still I agree that constant training and such things really help up the voice.

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Yeah, vocal coaches don't do shit if your technique in singing fights against everything that vocal chords we're mean to do.

Axl really should take it easy to cope with the tours strain.

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