lagofala Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) Well he is the king of MVs.Discuss you favourite MJ videosI like Beat It And Smooth Criminal.Beat ItNotice at 4.46 the guy next to the white jacketed dancer (the choreographer).He screws the dance moves up. I just realised it yesterday even though i watched the video loads of times.Smooth Criminal1995 MTV Video Music Awards----- With Slash Edited July 31, 2007 by lagofala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The way you make me feel ( full version)Bad ( the full version)ThrillerBeat itThe MTV 1995 music awardsstranger in moscowSmooth criminalMan in the mirrorEarth SongRock with youBlack or whiteremember the timeI love Michael Jackson, he's amazing and I don't beleive the crap about him at all. His new album come out in November or the first single of the album, can't wait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyZANrKGq2E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Well he is the king of MVs.Discuss you favourite MJ videosI like Beat It And Smooth Criminal.Beat ItNotice at 4.46 the guy next to the white jacketed dancer (the choreographer).He screws the dance moves up. I just realised it yesterday even though i watched the video loads of times.Smooth Criminal1995 MTV Video Music Awards----- With SlashIs that with Beat it, the dancers in Beat it are not professional dancers at all, they are actually people from the streets from real gangs at the time, Michael asked them to be in the video and he was surprised that all they wanted was for people to give them some attention and respect so he gave that to them. He also said that he gave them tickets each to the victory concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagofala Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxAmandaxx Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 i like Black or White and Beat It Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagofala Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..Why judge him on bleached skin? If he wants to look white so let him.The public tends to go down hard on his surgery even though there are so many other people who have/ and are doing the same thing.I can't say anything on the masks though. Although people say its to prevent people from going after them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..yes I do think he is, and so what he called his child prince Michael Did you ever think that the name Prince comes from his grand father who was named Prince and Michael named his child(ren) after him?As for his youngest kid I do beleive his name is different than what people think, but who knows.The mask is his decision, I mean he is Michael Jackson one of the most famous people on this earth and they are his children so I think he made the right decision making his kids wear mask and scarves because the press will follow them around all the time taking pictures and what kind of life is that, come on now, it can't be easy, he is trying his best and for those who have met them say they are really nice manners down to earth children and also he explains to them why they wear the masks and scarves and he said if they want to stop wearing them then he would be fine with it. And just because his kids wear scarves and masks doesn't mean they don't have a social life because they do but people don't recoginize them which is probably a good thing.About the bleach skin, does his skin colour matter, he has vitiligo and that's it. That doesn't change who he is on the inside? Edited July 31, 2007 by Axl-rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Rose Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Lets keep this in MJ's videos before it goes ridiculously off-topic...I must say They Don't Care About Us is my favorite, great video. Also the video where he was in that haunted mansion with that family, kinda like Thriller but it's newer. Anyone remember that? I can't, I saw it such a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Lets keep this in MJ's videos before it goes ridiculously off-topic...I must say They Don't Care About Us is my favorite, great video. Also the video where he was in that haunted mansion with that family, kinda like Thriller but it's newer. Anyone remember that? I can't, I saw it such a long time ago.Ghost is the video, here it is, I love it . The old man in it is also Michael aswell.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwOA8H5Vaak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten.. Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Beat itBillie JeanSmooth Criminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxAmandaxx Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..Why judge him on bleached skin? If he wants to look white so let him.The public tends to go down hard on his surgery even though there are so many other people who have/ and are doing the same thing.I can't say anything on the masks though. Although people say its to prevent people from going after them.Im not judging him on bleached skin. Im saying it's hardly a quality of a black man who's down to earth is it??^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..yes I do think he is, and so what he called his child prince Michael Did you ever think that the name Prince comes from his grand father who was named Prince and Michael named his child(ren) after him?As for his youngest kid I do beleive his name is different than what people think, but who knows.The mask is his decision, I mean he is Michael Jackson one of the most famous people on this earth and they are his children so I think he made the right decision making his kids wear mask and scarves because the press will follow them around all the time taking pictures and what kind of life is that, come on now, it can't be easy, he is trying his best and for those who have met them say they are really nice manners down to earth children and also he explains to them why they wear the masks and scarves and he said if they want to stop wearing them then he would be fine with it. And just because his kids wear scarves and masks doesn't mean they don't have a social life because they do but people don't recoginize them which is probably a good thing.About the bleach skin, does his skin colour matter, he has vitiligo and that's it. That doesn't change who he is on the inside?Definition of down to earth: Not pretentious or affected; straightforward. Not overly ornate; simple in style. Realistic; sensible.The point is - he didnt just name his "child" Prince Michael - he named the first one that, the second one that AS WELL adding "the 2nd" on the end. Is that normal? Do you normally called your kid a name like that, after yourself, and then do it again for the second kid?That is, if youre down to earth!! And if you believe that he's now a whiter shade of pale due to a skin condition youre very very naiive. Edited July 31, 2007 by xxAmandaxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..Why judge him on bleached skin? If he wants to look white so let him.The public tends to go down hard on his surgery even though there are so many other people who have/ and are doing the same thing.I can't say anything on the masks though. Although people say its to prevent people from going after them.Im not judging him on bleached skin. Im saying it's hardly a quality of a black man who's down to earth is it??^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..yes I do think he is, and so what he called his child prince Michael Did you ever think that the name Prince comes from his grand father who was named Prince and Michael named his child(ren) after him?As for his youngest kid I do beleive his name is different than what people think, but who knows.The mask is his decision, I mean he is Michael Jackson one of the most famous people on this earth and they are his children so I think he made the right decision making his kids wear mask and scarves because the press will follow them around all the time taking pictures and what kind of life is that, come on now, it can't be easy, he is trying his best and for those who have met them say they are really nice manners down to earth children and also he explains to them why they wear the masks and scarves and he said if they want to stop wearing them then he would be fine with it. And just because his kids wear scarves and masks doesn't mean they don't have a social life because they do but people don't recoginize them which is probably a good thing.About the bleach skin, does his skin colour matter, he has vitiligo and that's it. That doesn't change who he is on the inside?Definition of down to earth: Not pretentious or affected; straightforward. Not overly ornate; simple in style. Realistic; sensible.The point is - he didnt just name his "child" Prince Michael - he named the first one that, the second one that AS WELL adding "the 2nd" on the end. Is that normal? Do you normally called your kid a name like that, after yourself, and the do it again for the second kid?That is, if youre down to earth!! And if you believe that he's now a whiter shade of pale due to a skin condition youre very very naiive.he named another kid blanket and yeah, that definition was necessary because i think some people are misunderstanding the meaning of the term down to earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..Why judge him on bleached skin? If he wants to look white so let him.The public tends to go down hard on his surgery even though there are so many other people who have/ and are doing the same thing.I can't say anything on the masks though. Although people say its to prevent people from going after them.Im not judging him on bleached skin. Im saying it's hardly a quality of a black man who's down to earth is it??^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..yes I do think he is, and so what he called his child prince Michael Did you ever think that the name Prince comes from his grand father who was named Prince and Michael named his child(ren) after him?As for his youngest kid I do beleive his name is different than what people think, but who knows.The mask is his decision, I mean he is Michael Jackson one of the most famous people on this earth and they are his children so I think he made the right decision making his kids wear mask and scarves because the press will follow them around all the time taking pictures and what kind of life is that, come on now, it can't be easy, he is trying his best and for those who have met them say they are really nice manners down to earth children and also he explains to them why they wear the masks and scarves and he said if they want to stop wearing them then he would be fine with it. And just because his kids wear scarves and masks doesn't mean they don't have a social life because they do but people don't recoginize them which is probably a good thing.About the bleach skin, does his skin colour matter, he has vitiligo and that's it. That doesn't change who he is on the inside?Definition of down to earth: Not pretentious or affected; straightforward. Not overly ornate; simple in style. Realistic; sensible.The point is - he didnt just name his "child" Prince Michael - he named the first one that, the second one that AS WELL adding "the 2nd" on the end. Is that normal? Do you normally called your kid a name like that, after yourself, and the do it again for the second kid?That is, if youre down to earth!! And if you believe that he's now a whiter shade of pale due to a skin condition youre very very naiive.well I don't think he is effected, he was brought up different than most people which considering his upbringing being a singer infront of millions of people from the age of 5 and not having a childhood well that's to be expected, but he still did remain very loyal, very humble etc and I think he is realistic and straight forward aswell.And as I said before in my previous post I don't think his youngest son is named Prince Michael the 2nd. I just think he said that name to make the press happy at the time. But who knows, either way I'm sure Michael is raising him fine regardless of what his name is Edited July 31, 2007 by Axl-rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxAmandaxx Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 he named another kid blanket and yeah, that definition was necessary because i think some people are misunderstanding the meaning of the term down to earth.Yep. The term "down to earth" and Michael Jackson dont normally go together. This man also coined the term "king of pop" to describe himself...very down to earth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 ^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..Why judge him on bleached skin? If he wants to look white so let him.The public tends to go down hard on his surgery even though there are so many other people who have/ and are doing the same thing.I can't say anything on the masks though. Although people say its to prevent people from going after them.Im not judging him on bleached skin. Im saying it's hardly a quality of a black man who's down to earth is it??^^Cool. MJ's just very misunderstood.He is. I wish him all the best, he has gone through hell and still manages to just be so down to earth and stuff like that.You think Michael Jackson is down to earth???This is a guy who called his second kid, "Prince Michael 2nd"....not to mention the surgical mask, the bleached skin and the kids with masks on everytime theyre in public..yes I do think he is, and so what he called his child prince Michael Did you ever think that the name Prince comes from his grand father who was named Prince and Michael named his child(ren) after him?As for his youngest kid I do beleive his name is different than what people think, but who knows.The mask is his decision, I mean he is Michael Jackson one of the most famous people on this earth and they are his children so I think he made the right decision making his kids wear mask and scarves because the press will follow them around all the time taking pictures and what kind of life is that, come on now, it can't be easy, he is trying his best and for those who have met them say they are really nice manners down to earth children and also he explains to them why they wear the masks and scarves and he said if they want to stop wearing them then he would be fine with it. And just because his kids wear scarves and masks doesn't mean they don't have a social life because they do but people don't recoginize them which is probably a good thing.About the bleach skin, does his skin colour matter, he has vitiligo and that's it. That doesn't change who he is on the inside?Definition of down to earth: Not pretentious or affected; straightforward. Not overly ornate; simple in style. Realistic; sensible.The point is - he didnt just name his "child" Prince Michael - he named the first one that, the second one that AS WELL adding "the 2nd" on the end. Is that normal? Do you normally called your kid a name like that, after yourself, and the do it again for the second kid?That is, if youre down to earth!! And if you believe that he's now a whiter shade of pale due to a skin condition youre very very naiive.well I don't think he is effected, he was brought up different than most people which considering his upbringing being a singer infront of millions of people from the age of 5 and not having a childhood well that's to be expected, but he still did remain very loyal, very humble etc and I think he is realistic and straight forward aswell.And as I said I before in my previous post I don't think his youngest son is named Prince Michael the 2nd. I just think he said that name to make the press happy at the time. But who knows, either way I'm sure Michael is raising him fine regardless of what his name isi feel sorry amanda i really do you always get into this arguments where you have to explain some of the stupidest shit. OK, down to earth = being yourself, bleaching your skin is not being yourself now you can say "so what, he wants to" well great, no ones saying he shouldn't but its still a pertinent fact that that act does not come under the definition of being yourself. to pretencious, whether they are fine or not it does not get away from the fact that naming a kid blanket and parading them around under veils and masks is a pretencious and strange thing to do, it is NOT the act of someone who is down to earth. he's free to do it sure, but again, not down to earth. thats not a criticism necessarily but its a real painfully obvious undeniable fact.my favorite MJ video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 he named another kid blanket and yeah, that definition was necessary because i think some people are misunderstanding the meaning of the term down to earth.Yep. The term "down to earth" and Michael Jackson dont normally go together. This man also coined the term "king of pop" to describe himself...very down to earth.. Blanket is a nickname, he explained that and Michael never called himself the king of pop, Elizabeth taylor was the first to call him that at an award show, and after that the name Michael jackson king of pop was everywhere by fans etcthis is the first time Michael is called the king of pop by Elizabeth Taylor in 1989, the name king of pop for Michael went from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 he named another kid blanket and yeah, that definition was necessary because i think some people are misunderstanding the meaning of the term down to earth.Yep. The term "down to earth" and Michael Jackson dont normally go together. This man also coined the term "king of pop" to describe himself...very down to earth.. Blanket is a nickname, he explained that and Michael never called himself the king of pop, Elizabeth taylor was the first to call him that at an award show, and after that the name Michael jackson king of pop was everywhere by fans etcthis is the first time Michael is called the king of pop by Elizabeth Taylor in 1989, the name king of pop for Michael went from there that doesnt dispute the fact that the definition of down to earth does not even come close to describing the man, its just a fact dude. it not necessarily a criticism, its just a truism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 he named another kid blanket and yeah, that definition was necessary because i think some people are misunderstanding the meaning of the term down to earth.Yep. The term "down to earth" and Michael Jackson dont normally go together. This man also coined the term "king of pop" to describe himself...very down to earth.. Blanket is a nickname, he explained that and Michael never called himself the king of pop, Elizabeth taylor was the first to call him that at an award show, and after that the name Michael jackson king of pop was everywhere by fans etcthis is the first time Michael is called the king of pop by Elizabeth Taylor in 1989, the name king of pop for Michael went from there that doesnt dispute the fact that the definition of down to earth does not even come close to describing the man, its just a fact dude. it not necessarily a criticism, its just a truism.well I know for a fact that his attitude is down the earth, more so than people think, sure he is not the every day kinda person but if you think about his life and being one of the most famous people on this earth well that's to be expected. And it's not like he can go out and do everyday things like you and me without getting photographed or video taped every second.For most who have met him say he is really nice. When he was on trial he invited his fans to his ranch and mingled in with them and they said that Michael was very welcoming and easy going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) he named another kid blanket and yeah, that definition was necessary because i think some people are misunderstanding the meaning of the term down to earth.Yep. The term "down to earth" and Michael Jackson dont normally go together. This man also coined the term "king of pop" to describe himself...very down to earth.. Blanket is a nickname, he explained that and Michael never called himself the king of pop, Elizabeth taylor was the first to call him that at an award show, and after that the name Michael jackson king of pop was everywhere by fans etcthis is the first time Michael is called the king of pop by Elizabeth Taylor in 1989, the name king of pop for Michael went from there that doesnt dispute the fact that the definition of down to earth does not even come close to describing the man, its just a fact dude. it not necessarily a criticism, its just a truism.well I know for a fact that his attitude is down the earth, more so than people think, sure he is not the every day kinda person but if you think about his life and being one of the most famous people on this earth well that's to be expected. And it's not like he can go out and do everyday things like you and me without getting photographed or video taped every second.For most who have met him say he is really nice. When he was on trial he invited his fans to his ranch and mingled in with them and they said that Michael was very welcoming and easy going.can you explain to me what you think down to earth means? hows this, you wanna see down to earth? this is real down to earth right here, watch this video, wait til about the 3:40 mark, namely, the part where poor homeless helpless afflicted looking people gather onstage which jacko prances around them, only to stop after a while, strip off til he's all dressed in heavenly white, stand there with his arms out-stretched while the poverty stricken around him then turn to his embrace. ever hear of a Christ complex? this video is positively obscene. now you could interpret that as "oh, he's putting forward a message of love and togetherness" but look at the imagery, look at the set up, performances are coreographed, look where he places himself in relation to other people. if he wanted to convey love and togetherness he'd do that by possibly (just a suggestion) dressing up as them maybe? holding hands with them on their level? as a message laden performance that would still be pretencious but this one is just flat out disturbing and he makes himself out to be a dick. on the unedited version of this performance Jarvis Cocker from the band Pulp ran onstage and mooned the crowd and generally messed around in protest at what he thought was just a ridiculous degree of pomposity and im inclined to agree with him. and ridiculous claims made by Jacko like the one where he said that white society has been out to get him since he started out-selling elvis or something, thats just fucking ridiculous and im a black person saying that. but still, my question if you could answer. what does down to earth mean? Edited July 31, 2007 by ffrankwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I'm with Frank and Amanda. He's a fucking loon, and that's by far the nicest possible thing I can bring myself to say about him. *On topic* That one with Naomi Campbell. I know she's a psycho bitch, but she's a damn fine looking psycho bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I'm with Frank and Amanda. He's a fucking loon, and that's by far the nicest possible thing I can bring myself to say about him. *On topic* That one with Naomi Campbell. I know she's a psycho bitch, but she's a damn fine looking psycho bitch.fucken loon, huh, so have you actually met him and spoken to him, so who are you to judge him like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I'm with Frank and Amanda. He's a fucking loon, and that's by far the nicest possible thing I can bring myself to say about him. *On topic* That one with Naomi Campbell. I know she's a psycho bitch, but she's a damn fine looking psycho bitch.fucken loon, huh, so have you actually met him and spoken to him, so who are you to judge him like that?possibly not but im sure she hasnt met adolf hitler either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I'm with Frank and Amanda. He's a fucking loon, and that's by far the nicest possible thing I can bring myself to say about him. *On topic* That one with Naomi Campbell. I know she's a psycho bitch, but she's a damn fine looking psycho bitch.fucken loon, huh, so have you actually met him and spoken to him, so who are you to judge him like that?possibly not but im sure she hasnt met adolf hitler either.. Exactly. Based on his own words and actions, I feel quite comfortable caling him a loon. Considering the other things I'm comfortable calling him, I assure you, I'm being restrained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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