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[SPOILER ALERT] Van Halen 2012 tour discussion


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I'm really surprised that they haven't played You and Your Blues at all, even once. Since it was the lone song off A Different Kind of Truth that made the unplugged DVD I figured that meant they'd have an interest in doing it. I think China Town surprised me the most when they started the tour. I didn't expect that one at all.

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Dave needs to hire a vocal coach and put some effort into his singing. His voice is terrible when you compare it to the 07 tour. It must piss Eddie, Wolfgang and Alex off. They are carrying Dave; musically that is.

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Dave needs to hire a vocal coach and put some effort into his singing. His voice is terrible when you compare it to the 07 tour. It must piss Eddie, Wolfgang and Alex off. They are carrying Dave; musically that is.

Dave could save a lot of his voice if he just sang. When he sticks to the songs as they are, he tends to sound a lot better. Other times he's busy adding extra growls or yells that only seem to be hurting his voice. Also, some songs like Dance the Night Away he seems to overshoot his vocals a bit. I know he can still sing because some songs sound great. Beautiful Girls on the unplugged DVD, for example, shows him just singing it straightforward and it works. His voice has changed but it still sounds good. If that was the approach he took every night, he'd be fine.

His voice hasn't stopped me from enjoying the shows though. I'm mainly there for Ed, and the band is tighter than ever.

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Dave needs to hire a vocal coach and put some effort into his singing. His voice is terrible when you compare it to the 07 tour. It must piss Eddie, Wolfgang and Alex off. They are carrying Dave; musically that is.

Dave could save a lot of his voice if he just sang. When he sticks to the songs as they are, he tends to sound a lot better. Other times he's busy adding extra growls or yells that only seem to be hurting his voice. Also, some songs like Dance the Night Away he seems to overshoot his vocals a bit. I know he can still sing because some songs sound great. Beautiful Girls on the unplugged DVD, for example, shows him just singing it straightforward and it works. His voice has changed but it still sounds good. If that was the approach he took every night, he'd be fine.

His voice hasn't stopped me from enjoying the shows though. I'm mainly there for Ed, and the band is tighter than ever.

Pretty much my thoughts. Dave seems to worried with trying to reinvent the vocal parts more than anything, and I respect that, but if he isn't gonna sound killer on them then he should stick more towards the original vocals. DTNA for example, I don't feel that he "overshoots" in the sense that he doesn't have the finesse to hit the correct pitches all the time, but I feel like he wants to sing the song different. I mean, the melody the way he sings it now sounds nothing like the studio version.

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Just read on a Van Halen website that they are postponing 30 concert dates, July, Aug and Sept. No reason given. Anybody else hear about this?

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Just read on a Van Halen website that they are postponing 30 concert dates, July, Aug and Sept. No reason given. Anybody else hear about this?


Yep, I wonder what's up.

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Just read on a Van Halen website that they are postponing 30 concert dates, July, Aug and Sept. No reason given. Anybody else hear about this?


Yep, I wonder what's up.

http://ultimateclass...pone-2012-tour/

Fuck, that's really bad news for me. We bought tickets for our friends who were gonna go with us following Maiden. I doubt we'd be able to get a partial refund (If they even offer them). Not to mention I feel bad all our European friends get to miss out now... :(

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The only dates postponed were the ones that they recently announced, and sold tickets to for some reason. Rumor is that they put them off so that they could do shows overseas. Doesn't seem to be infighting or health issues, which is great. Wait and see though I suppose. I've got tickets to their next show in St. Paul, so I suppose I'll get to see first hand whether or not they seem to be fighting.

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The only dates postponed were the ones that they recently announced, and sold tickets to for some reason. Rumor is that they put them off so that they could do shows overseas. Doesn't seem to be infighting or health issues, which is great. Wait and see though I suppose. I've got tickets to their next show in St. Paul, so I suppose I'll get to see first hand whether or not they seem to be fighting.

Plenty of dates were postponed in '08 too. It's not fighting, I can guarantee that ;)

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The only dates postponed were the ones that they recently announced, and sold tickets to for some reason. Rumor is that they put them off so that they could do shows overseas. Doesn't seem to be infighting or health issues, which is great. Wait and see though I suppose. I've got tickets to their next show in St. Paul, so I suppose I'll get to see first hand whether or not they seem to be fighting.

Plenty of dates were postponed in '08 too. It's not fighting, I can guarantee that ;)

I really hope they aren't fighting again, but this situation has more plausible explanations than them fighting. My guess would be Dave needing time to recover or an issue with the promoter since these are just the recently announced dates. If they really did postpone the shows to make way for a Euro tour...well that would just be incredibly stupid since these have been on sale a while. Can't wait to see them tomorrow though, will be interesting.

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:shrugs: oh well

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It's kind of a whatever for me, but what does piss me off is that no information has been given has far as rescheduling goes or if/when refunds will be available. Hopefully within the next couple days we'll hear more.

If it's true about putting them off in favor of European dates then that's dumb. These dates have been on sale a while, several were even sold out. Why not finish and tour Europe in the fall? Time will tell.

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The VHND has an update:

Why were these dates postponed? The band has been working tirelessly for the last 18 months – writing and recording “A Different Kind Of Truth”, filming the “Tattoo” video, rehearsing, putting together the show themselves (lighting, the videos, the stage, routing the tour, and lots of behind the scenes stuff that most people don’t even know about). The band wants the second leg to be as awesome as the first. And for that to happen they want to put more time into the planning of it. Not just continue on with the same show.

Van Halen is very enthusiastic about the rest of the tour and wants be on the road for a long time. Just how long remains to be seen, but we’ll say that the tour will probably continue into next year. They are now considering touring Australia and Japan in the near future.

As it stands now, the 31 postponed US shows are due to be rescheduled. There should be some sort of official announcement forthcoming.


They're usually right on the money with Van Halen news so I believe it. Sounds like the band just wants a break. It'll probably do Dave well. The part that intrigues me is them not wanting the second leg to be identical to the first.

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The VHND has an update:

Why were these dates postponed? The band has been working tirelessly for the last 18 months – writing and recording “A Different Kind Of Truth”, filming the “Tattoo” video, rehearsing, putting together the show themselves (lighting, the videos, the stage, routing the tour, and lots of behind the scenes stuff that most people don’t even know about). The band wants the second leg to be as awesome as the first. And for that to happen they want to put more time into the planning of it. Not just continue on with the same show.

Van Halen is very enthusiastic about the rest of the tour and wants be on the road for a long time. Just how long remains to be seen, but we’ll say that the tour will probably continue into next year. They are now considering touring Australia and Japan in the near future.

As it stands now, the 31 postponed US shows are due to be rescheduled. There should be some sort of official announcement forthcoming.


They're usually right on the money with Van Halen news so I believe it. Sounds like the band just wants a break. It'll probably do Dave well. The part that intrigues me is them not wanting the second leg to be identical to the first.

Fair enough for me. Maybe I'm being extra-hopeful, but I foresee a bit of a fresh setlist for the second leg... :book:

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Sounds like damage control to me.

You blow out three months worth of gigs (many sold out) to tweak the stage show?

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