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The last time I logged in to this forum was about a year ago I think. In the meantime I've moved places, started a new job, bought a new car, had a son and in the meantime there's Axl Rose still playing a Chinese Democracy song no one cared for even back when it was first played 20 years ago.

On 29-9-2019 at 9:59 PM, Draguns said:

If you think it's a "snooze fest", why are you on here commenting? Are you one of those that watches all the shows on YouTube then criticizes every little thing? 

No, just one glance at a setlist will do nowadays. It's not like things have changed much since the "reunion" started.

1 hour ago, Draguns said:

Regarding the setlist, they  played the same set list back in the day majority of the times.

Yeah, but "back in the day" there was only 1 unnecessary drum/guitar solo as opposed to the countless lengthy covers, instrumental jams and irrelevant songs from Chinese Democracy. Sure, this band plays 3 hours, but I'd rather have a tight, 1,5 hour show than the snoozefest that's often this band nowadays.

4 minutes ago, Amaya said:

I think changing up setlists would be too time consuming.  You have msny diehard fans who go to different shows. You many casual fans and milleniums who see one show and call it a good  night out for some live music and entertainment.  

Changing the set won't change casuals and mileniums' opinion on their good night out unless you take out a huge hit. At least half of the set could be replaced by something else and no casual would notice.

I'd much rather have all the solo's and cover songs disappear than have the rants return.

On 2-4-2019 at 4:14 PM, Italian girl said:

I don't like her but they're a nice couple, btw....

I don't know what she's like but I like her nice "couple".

We all know Michael Jackson was weird. Sure, even some of his friendships might've been inappropriate. But a child molester? Nah...

There's so many details out there from the case in court that's neglected in the documentary just to make sure these 2 can make their case with accusations they just can't prove. It's a shame the Estate can't get its shit together and release an in depth documentary about the allegations just so everything's out there and all these supposedly molested people will shut up.

4 hours ago, Hollywood Gunner said:

i know im probably in the minority here when i say i didnt mind it, and that i actually kinda enjoyed it... gave me time to chat with other gnr fans (something i dont get to do every day) and i was able to pound back a few extra brews... that was actually not always a good thing cuz yeah, after a 3 hour wait and a 3 hour show i was pretty fuckin hammered lol recipe for disaster

 

but yeah the 11 oclock news thing was a joke/exaggeration... and i dont think it made them anymore dangerous per say but it did add to the mystique imo and it was a little badass of them/him... i know some really feel it was disrespectful to the fans but i kinda look at it like going to see your favorite comedian and getting heckled... wouldnt make me appreciate the show any less if he made fun of how ugly i was lol but then again maybe thats just me trying to make the best out of a bad situation 

The thing is, I don't go to concerts to chat with other fants, drink expensive overpriced lager and then wait 3 hours. I've also no idea in which universe heckling a comedian is funny? If anything, Axl's supposed to be the one to get heckled I reckon? I mean no disrespect, but I just don't understand it. I've no idea how you can justify the lateness in any other way other than saying it's disrespectful. If I show up late for work I can't go out and say everyone "I'm doing it for the mystique and aren't I badass?"

8 hours ago, Hollywood Gunner said:

pretty sure people needed to be at work the next day in the 90s too... only difference is the average age of most fans at the concert this time around... as for curfews well yeah, the world has a lot more rules than it used to... personally though thats one thing i miss about attending a gnr show... walking outta there at 3am kinda added to the experience and it set the band apart... sorry for all of those that dont agree and that wanna be home on time to watch the 11 oclock news

Yeah, and people were upset about the late shows back then as well. There were plenty of curfews back then as well, it's not something of the last few years. The band started late back then but not 1 at night kind of late like Axl did on several shows during the Chinese Democracy tours.

I've never felt walking out late after a show adds to anything other than frustration as to how to get home and how to make it to work the next day without feeling absolutely fucked. It's irresponsible to do so, there's more to life than see Guns N' Roses and it's not "the 11 o' clock news".

I've tried this and there's no difference, the album's still an unlistenable overproduced mess.

1 hour ago, Kwick1 said:

GnR was scheduled to go on at times knowing the likelihood of Axl being extremely late. It was 27 years ago and Axl now knows or appears to know the importance of starting as scheduled.

Yeah yeah... Axl now knows the importance of starting as scheduled... We're not talking about the difference between a toddler and an adolescent. He always knew, the pressure was just a lot higher this time as I'm sure several promoters wouldn't pay out would the show start at 1 at night.

6 minutes ago, Kwick1 said:

My opinion is that the heat and trouble that came from the late appearances were the result of poor tour management. It could have been prevented by not scheduling GnR to start at 7:30. Sure maybe Axl should have complied but Axl was battling other demons and tour management was aware that he wanted to go on after 10. Tour management also could have avoided cities that had a curfew requiring shows to stop before midnight. With better management I've always thought that much of the BS from UYI tour could have and should have been prevented. 

Yeah... This is nonsense.  In the end Axl signed up for the tour and knew he had to start early and then didn't for whatever reason. Now that the band's half reuinited he's suddenly able to start at the right time?

You can't just book a tour and have them start at whatever time the band sees fit. There's curfews almost everywhere and people needing to be at work the next day. It's impossible to do so.

I'd like the UYI mixes Slash supposedly has in his vault or whatever. The ones without the slick production. 

I don't really care for official UYI bootlegs or official releases of proshots. What's the point of an official release of a pro shot that's already around it good quality? And those who've listened to the bootlegs of that tour which aren't that widely circulated like Paris know the band sounds off quite a lot of times. That tour was long, but half of the gigs weren't really that good.

I've really no desire for anything from last tour other than video of the band getting back together for the first time and discussing the past. I've my doubts video like that exists as I've a feeling they've decided it's water under the bridge and left all that baggage behind.

This song made me cringe.

On 13-2-2019 at 12:26 PM, MildlyArtistic said:

Thanks to Goldstein, they broke up afterwards instead.

Yeah, it's Goldstein. Not Yoda, Axl's antics, the lateness, the constant boozing and drugs but the manager who couldn't keep that sane bunch of people together.

Just because the band's recorded a few bits and pieces doesn't mean Axl was there as well. It all means nothing and I'm surprised how people believe it does after he's said the same thing so many times before when it meant nothing as well.

I've no idea who this guy is.

This show is shit but so are the people watching this stuff. I've no idea why Slash goes on promoting himself there as I very much doubt audiences watching shows like these care for the kind of music Slash makes.

I'd feel really indifferent. I haven't listened to anything from Chinese Democracy in years and have little faith that this band would come up with anything close to what I feel sounds like GnR.

20 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

So you DO know they put out a boxed set last year right?  Whatever you had, we've heard.

Yeah...That's not how it works. They release what they think is worth releasing, not what die hards think is worth releasing.

Yeah, the microphone.

I tried, but whenever I randomly select a song on youTube I always find myself bored with it, mostly due to it sounding just so so familiar. I can't get excited over this. For me they sound like outtakes from Apocalyptic Love, really. Leftover melodies.

This thing also didn't take off because he was online for barely an hour, answered about 20 questions and never engaged with people there. Promo like that won't work.

A lot of people seem to have no idea as to how these AMA's work and are dismissing them based upon their gut feelings. The fun thing about these is how every user can see the questions, including Slash. Once an artist bullshits himself through these Reddit gets pissed off and takes the piss out of the artist. And for those hating on the idea; all you've got to do is start asking questions. If it's a good one a lot of readers on reddit will upvote your question and thus it will end up on the top. I've yet to read a boring AMA. Sure, most answer the obvious questions but the artists who cop out are easily dismissed and don't end up on the front page, thus don't generate the publicity they want.