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Why oh why can't Rocket Queen just die already? The song drags so much and has been overdone. We get it, Slash. You like noodling around. Do it in your basement as half the time you've lost a large part of your audience by the time the song is done.

He's spend 20 years talking on how GnR split up and then says there's nothing to say when everyone wants to know how they got back together. Oh well.

Scott, because he was singing, as opposed to whatever Axl's doing nowadays. I've yet to hear a rendition of Slither with Axl on vocals that sounds somewhat decent, and this includes all the performances he's supposedly nailing.

Sure, it all sounds better than Berlin, but in the end it still sounds like an angry Micky Mouse.

Well now, this was shit. But as usual, there's excuses, excuses.

I feel indifferent. Despite the reunion he still sounds awful so why should I care for it? This band sounds most like GnR when Axl isn't singing.

Half of his studio stuff is pretty good, the other half is bland and generic. Live he's quite the poser nowadays, tries to sell his songs by his supposedly sexy moves but avoids all the risky vocal stuff. His shows have become predictable, he's been playing the same setlist for about 20 years now with the exception of the odd 3 new songs. I could also do without the lengthy "spontaneous" jams he does, half of it goes nowhere. Meh.

Just drop the covers and play a maximum of 3 songs of Chinese Democracy. No one's there to hear that stuff anyway. Replace it with some UYI stuff that wasn't a hit, there's a reason why Coma was so well received among die hards.

3 hours ago, ludurigan said:

 

Looking at the setlist above, there is a "LAST SONG" (that was supposed to be with SLASH) THAT APPARENTLY WAS SCRAPED FROM THE GET GO AND THAT THEY ENDED UP NOT PLAYING.

anyone has any idea which song it was?

Walk This Way.

You're citing Buzzfeed as a source...Buzzfeed gets its information from sites like Reddit and the likes, citing random users as official sources without providing any context.

And even so, I very much doubt Michael Jackson personally sending MTV a letter. It's probably his press camp coming up with the stuff which, from a marketing point of view, makes sense. Have MTV call him the King of Pop and within a few months everyone will say he is the King of Pop.

As if it matters anything... They're not going to get into the reunion and the how and when and why it happened.

No. Longer movies don't cost more either. Or longer plays.

I don't really care what they'll do. No amount of changes in the set will fix whatever the fuck is wrong with Axl's voice. And Axl's voice is the reason I still haven't seen any show.

I've always thought the first Snakepit album was utter garbage that lacks direction and sounds like a band jamming on unfinished songs. Ain't Life Grand, their second album, sounds and feels much more like a real album. It has an updated Appetite feel and it's the only album Slash has released with a vocalist that fits his guitar sound. It's easily one of my favourite records. Anything else he's released has a filler or two, with World On Fire consisting of almost nothing but fillers.

35 minutes ago, Jordan Rose said:

Happiest fanbase? The splintered Guns fanbase was a lot happier with just the reunion and 2016 shows than the Jovi fans have been with his shitty album and awful shows. As a whole his fanbase is a joke anyway. A myopic group who only listen to Bon Jovi, not discerning music fans. There are virtually no rock fans left at his shows, mostly just middle-class Jovi die hards. You can see it in the embarrassing tour ads in the cinema with all the rich, middle class women who likely don't own any music other than Jovi, singing along to a couple choruses.

Spot on. And said fanbase is incapable of talking about other music because they've never heard it and thus think Jon Bon Jovi is the one inventing all that new shit, while pretty much all they've released the past 15 years has been rehashed pop songs in the hope of having another big hit like It's My Life.

I don't understand why everyone's got such a problem with just accepting that out of all the headliners neither Bon Jovi or Guns N' Roses put on a truly great show. Both acts are nothing of what made them famous and both have their own problems. The only similarity is that both bands feature lead singers who've lost it, whatever it may be. Out of the two, Axl Rose is a lot more interesting though because he is just Axl Rose, while Jon Bon Jovi is always busy trying to create that image of a serious songwriter and a generous person.

1 hour ago, Italian girl said:

some of you deserve other 23 years without Gnr.

enjoy what we have now. don't be spoiled

I've still not seen a show because of Axl's voice so I think I've been doing just fine. What they're giving us now is not GnR.

Just now, Sosso said:

More People than you think

Eh? Apart from the small group of fans that adore Chinese Democracy there's really no one buying tickets to hear a song like Sorry. Out of this board I've yet to meet someone who's buying tickets because he/she's going to hear anything of Chinese Democracy.

1 minute ago, default_ said:

By that logic, theres a lot of people goin to GNR concerts to listen to Sorry, Chinese Democracy, This I love and Better right?

lol

No, not really. You're bringing up Bon Jovi as an example of a band that releases new stuff people care for. All he's saying is Bon Jovi might've released new stuff, yet no one cares for it and thus people will go see the shows simply to hear the old stuff. Like with GnR.

7 minutes ago, default_ said:

Bon Jovi has way more integrity as a band than GNR lol Even if you dont like it, BJ has been constantly releasing (quality) stuff since day one, Jon has obviously lost his voice but still can deliever a nice experience to his fans, the band lost their main composer and guitarrist but with no drama has just released an album and are doing a sucessful tour, changing their sets often and doing a fine job.

Dont embarasse yourself trying to undermine BJ to praise GNR.

 

Don't pretend Bon Jovi's all that nowadays. Their last decent record is over 10 years old and despite them playing to sold out crowds it's not really a band playing their but Jon and his whatever street band that's joining him. Bon Jovi sounds as much as Bon Jovi as NuGNR sounded like GnR. Many die hard fans lost interest when Sambora left and they've not really got a critical audience anymore since they went pop with It's My Life.

18 hours ago, Theseeker123 said:

hahah! Good point!!! I guess I should rephrase.......... If you like shitty, mainstream, souless, streamlined, played the exact same every night music, go see Bon Jovi :D!

What's mainstream about Bon Jovi nowadays?

As for the rest GnR live is nowadays te same shitty, soulles, streamlined, played the exact same set every night Guns N' Roses does? As a matter of fact Bon Jovi are mixing up their set more often than GnR do, with their endless stream of covers and guitar solo's. There's no flow and despite the show being very long, it's just a lot of noise. For a band with as much experience as they have it makes no sense do play shows like these.

I'd have paid good money for this edition of Rock In Rio 10 years ago. Steven Tyler wasn't hoarse back then, Jon Bon Jovi could still sing and Axl's voice resembled a bit of the good old days. What you get now is Aerosmith playing just 17 songs, Bon Jovi doing a 2 hour set with at least an hour of songs no one cares for and a reunited GnR with a singer who sounds like Mickey Mouse. It boggles the mind how anyone, really anyone, could think either Bon Jovi or GnR was any good.

I'm not hearing any of the Slash is awesome. His timing is very off and him adding all these random notes to the original melody line isn't working. It sounds messy, as if he can't keep up with himself. Oh yeah, and Mickey.

Jon Bon Jovi's voice was never meant to do multiple 2 hour+ gigs in a week, let alone 100 shows in a year. Yet that's where the money's at, and Jon Bon Jovi loves money. Thus for the last 15 years 100 shows a year had to be done, because Jon had to buy a football team; The New York Buffalo Bills. 2 huge world tours later and he's left with a silly band that sounds nothing like what Bon Jovi sounds like, his original guitarist left, his voice is gone and he's incapable of singing pretty much anything without the help of the band. Oh, and he wasn't capable of buying the team either.

35 minutes ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

Bon Jovi is on...the people is going crazy

The sound is very good in this

https://globosatplay.globo.com/multishow/ao-vivo/

with Hola!

edit: I do not see Richie Sambora. Is not with Bon Jovi?

Have you been living under a rock? Sambora left Bon Jovi 4 years ago.

Yay, let's hear what other stuff Axl can butcher live.

1 hour ago, GNRfanMILO said:

NOBODY wants 1987 Axl's voice. We want a decent 2017 Axl voice. Go listen to the My Michelle videos above and then tell me. He's choosing to sing like shit. 

To be honest, he should sound like he did with ACDC. But if you dont want to be that hard, then 2016 levels would be more than enough. 

Nobody wants Jon Bon Jovi to sound like he did in 1987 either. All fans really want is a singer who sings. And whatever either is doing isn't singing. And yes, I'm quite sure Axl sings a certain way and it is a conscious decision to sound the way he does and I agree he should sound the same way he did with AC/DC. But he doesn't, and there doesn't seem to be a real excuse for it either.

2 hours ago, Original said:

Yes I've seen Bon Jovi over 30 times in the last 10 years and am well aware that he's vocally not the same.  Point being I've enjoyed every show and had a blast.  If you want 1887 vocal quality out of Axl then listen to the album.  I saw Guns in their prime and again 3 times on this tour and loved my shows....may yet go see them in Vegas again. 

Something that clearly shows that, when seeing the band live, you just don't notice how awful he really sounds. Me, personally, I don't enjoy any show from any artist if the guitars are out of tune, the sound is off or the singer can't sing. But you're not the only one, the majority doesn't hear the vocal flaws of a lead singer unless it's pointed out to them. Yet you are here telling everyone else they should lower the expectations because age has crept up on them. The way either of them sounds is not an age related issue.