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This should probably be: Who will tour with Ashba (from GnR).

Play Ball is such a laughable forgettable song. It's like they weren't even trying.

After watching that video I still don't see how he's badmouthing Axl there? How is saying "He became very aware of himself, and it got to a point where it was overwhelming" a bad thing? It's nothing new what he's saying, and I think even Axl would agree with it, would Slash not be the one that said it,

Nowadays you release albums via iTunes or BitTorrent........

No you don't, this post doesn't make any sense.

I'm sarry for youuuuuuu....not sarry for meeeeee. Yeah most of Chinese Democracy is atrociously bad.

Now. I would all like to hear your own lyrics please.

There's always a few butthurt folks out there. If this logic would make sense football coaches would be the best players in the world.

I reckon he's getting rid of it cause the driveway is about a hundred miles long. Without any McDrives. I mean come on!

Plenty of people think Michael Jackson did some pretty incredible music with that voice of his.

Seriously, are some of you smoking crack?

And plenty of people think otherwise, so what? I just happen to be the other half who think that MJ ain't nothing special. Imo he just became a legend because of the music video, not because he was so talented.

Oh wait I forgot his legendary work with the Jackson 5 lmao.

It's one thing to dislike an artist, but to make claims that are just blatantly untrue when a certain artist like Michael Jackson could do pretty much anything with his voice makes your opinion kind of invalid, and if anything, shows how ignorant you are towards music in general.

Michael Jackson, for one, had an incredible range, was capable of pretty much any vocal technique, could beatbox and sing at the same time, knew how to figure out how to harmonize with himself in pretty much every key imaginable and mimic the character of a lot of instruments. There's plenty of artists that can do one or two of these things, but there's not many out there capable of mastering everything.

On top of that he's written pop songs, rock songs, gospel songs, disco, R&B, soul, and was capable of blending every music style, whether current or from the past. into his own music, and was on top of the world for over a decade. Compare this to most pop artists who have a career of maybe 2 or 3 albums until they vanish into obscurity.

A song like Black Or White has hip hop, rock, funk and a bit of jazz in it, and you say it's not incredible? That he was average? If he was so average, why hasn't anyone been capable of doing the same? It's been over 50 years since a man like that was born. But yeah, nothing special, right? It's one thing not to like the songs and not to like the vocals, but you don't need to be a fan of certain artists to be capable of appreciating what they're capable of doing. The only reason why his career went downhill was because the decisions he made in his personal life got in the way of his own musical creativity. Not because the novelty of his videos wore off or something like that.

The same goes for people saying The Beatles were average songwriters. They've written songs with such impeccable hooks and melody lines that are still rarely matched today by anyone. Some people write one, two, maybe 10 songs like that over a 40 year career. The Beatles wrote about 50 in about 10 years. I can understand people saying they like the songs when performed by others, I can understand people saying they don't like what The Beatles sounded like, but saying they were average songwriters is, once again, sheer ignorance.

Personally, I can't stand Bruce Springsteen. I admire him for what he does, how he's mixing up setlists, plays for 3 to 4 hours, has almost always stayed true to what he likes as opposed to what he thinks his audience likes, but I just can't get into him, nor the sound of his band. It's just not for me.

I wouldn't really take anything off the album but would probably tell them to rewrite some of the lyrics of Back off Bitch, Get In The Ring and maybe Shotgun Blues.

Haha that speech works so incredibly well! It's the highlight of the song.

So in 2 hours, the Slash lineup sold almost as much as Axl's band has in 6 years? lol

Oh my it really doesn't take a lot on here for someone to most likely cause another shitstorm.

Both U2 and Apple are overrated products driven by a brand as opposed to by the things they're actually capable of achieving. I do feel that people have started losing interest in both things though, more and more people take the piss out of Apple, just like more and more people realize U2 really are a shit band nowadays.

Just because Gene's taste in music stopped evolving doesn't mean everyone else's did as well.

guns n roses fans need to join in with this, lets get in the mix

And then what?

Saw this movie in the theater for the actual movie and had completely forgotten about the song. Then the song starts playing and I'm thinking "Is this Axl? Oh yeah, this is that movie he's doing the song for. Well, sounds shit, time to bail". Shows how interested I was, really. Because I was that cool long before everyone else started to realize the same thing on here.

Just watched 45 min of it, superb.

Q. Axl rants over the instrumental part of DTJ - do you think this was maybe part of the song at one time?

No. Axl just never knew when to shut up.

The UYI tour had so many different legs and many different performances that's it hard to pin it down to just one typical show. The band dynamics and the overall sound on the first leg was different to the one on the Skin & Bones tour in 1993. I'd take the UYI tour though, but no drum and guitar solo's please.

I don't really understand why people need proof of it being re-recorded when all you need to do is listen. If people can't tell this stuff is re-recorded it's no wonder there's still fans out there who think Axl's a decent singer - Most of the re-recorded vocals on Live Era are absolutely dire.

Thanks for the replies guys. I had no idea some of the Live Era vocals were re-recorded. Still a great live Album!

How can it be a live album, when it's not live? I don't mean to be an ass, but once I found out I was duped way back when, that album never got played again. If I want a studio recording, I'll listen to one. If I want a live recording, I'll listen to a bootleg. But listening to a fake live record?

That's just horse shit lol

I hate to burst your bubble, but almost all live albums are sweetened up in the studio.

Sure, but not like Live Era. Yes, all bands do overdubs, change the mix here and there and have a singer that sings a few of his lines again. This is all done for a better listening experience. A flat note here and there might be authentic, but it's also painfull to listen to. What they don't do is completely redo all vocals for most of the album. It's a bit of a difference there. And in Axl's case, it didn't even make for a better listening experience either, so fuck knows why he felt it was necessary.

Well Axl's voice in 99 was amazing then!

Meh, the first thing I thought when listening to Live Era was "I don't remember him sounding like this?" I was utterly disappointed with how big of a mess the album really is. The mix is poor, the re-recorded vocals sound thin and have none of the anger or rasp in them that was there originally... IndiannaRose gave a good summary of all the editing they did:

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/25930-live-era/?p=406914

Joe perry has said this week that Aerosmiths last album never sold that well. He also added that playing new songs gets a "polite appluase" at the shows. Which is why they are only playing one new song at most on the recent tour.

Aerosmith are bigger than GNR and have their original lineup, yet they are struggling to put out new material which there audiance would love. With this in mind... How does current GNR have a chance?

With that theory; how does any band stand a chance if their last album didn't do as well as the one before that? Big bands should realize that the only way they'll sell albums if they actually play stuff from it, and actually go out to promote it.

Many big acts nowadays seem to think that their new stuff will only sell if it's got a hit, but as soon as it doesn't it's never them, but the record company or some other factor that's at fault. Aerosmith never went out to promote their record. They did about 3 televised performances, gave 2 interviews and then toured the album half a year after it'd been released. Yeah, no shit no one knows it's been out.

Any line up without Axl.

I mean that fellow guitarists, music critics and progressive/virtuoso music fans knew him (and Bucket for that matter) before Guns.

Yeah, but there's a difference to people being aware that he's releasing CD's and people actually buying the CD's as well.

I laugh at people saying "This could delay the release of..." As for the rest if he's in or out, who gives a shit, really? GnR will never have a steady line up as long as Axl's still the frontman.

She says her life is so hard but she got free plumming. FREE PLUMMING is the first anecdote they use in the promo vid. I want FREE PLUMMING.

Oh, and I'd also like those potato pancakes. Free plumming and potato pancakes please.

I think the real question is what's in those briefcases.