Graeme

4 minutes ago, spunko12345 said:

The Backstreet Bhoys 😁

Edit: fuck sorry @Graeme wrong team 😂

54 minutes ago, Gavin82 said:

Well you may be well off enough too be happy too loose a few hundred quid on flights if you cant travel or the sake of a £10 you can get a full refund or postpone your dates 

I know what I'd do 

I'm not suggesting it's in any way daft to buy it, I'm just saying that the name is ridiculous  .

Damn Welsh, they ruined Wales...

22 hours ago, Dazey said:

Eeesh! Give it a couple more weeks and you’ll have gone full on Braveheart. Minus the anti-semitism of course.  

Covid may take our freedom, but it will never take our lives! 

What has capitalism come to when people are now seriously buying something called "wizz flex"?

Apparently Bolsonaro has tested positive after showing symptoms - the sad thing is that I bet (much like Boris Johnson) that he still continues to handle the pandemic like a reckless, moronic arsehole after he's recovered. 

1 hour ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Wtf - this ridiculous tweet is the official White House account?? 

What the hell!! 

The telephone!?

*Angry Scottish Noises*

Is anyone else suffering from a quarantine haircut (or lack thereof)?

1 hour ago, Dazey said:

As much as I love you mate you’re going to be seeing the same scenes north of the border in a week or so. At this point the time of reopening is entirely arbitrary if they’re intent on going ahead with it before the virus is completely contained. 

I went for a walk in Altrincham centre last night and it was far from the carnage the tabloids are pushing on the front pages. 

 

 

 

Oh, I know - I'm not implying that Scots are in any way more sensible about drinking, or with a drink in them. I just think that on a government level it's a stupid idea to do this at this point in the pandemic (from a superficial reading of the situation, I haven't done a particularly full weighing up of the pros and cons). It feels like since the threshold out of complete lockdown was crossed, society has been hurtling towards 'business as usual' at a foolhardy rate because people collectively can't handle a bit of nuance - it has to be everything or nothing - and given that the virus hasn't gone anywhere, it could just be setting us up for a bumpy ride in the future.

It kinda makes me think of our discussions about climate change back in the day, where I was talking about the fact that we had to change, and you were like "we do, but we won't" because people value cheap conveniences and thrills over lasting social responsibility.

4 minutes ago, spunko12345 said:

Those people should be invoiced for whatever treatment they get. I've said this for years, if you go to A&E completely shitfaced and you should still get seen to but you have to pay. I don't think that's unreasonable.

It does go against the guiding principle of the NHS - freely available healthcare for everyone, even drunken morons  . If you were to try and implement a policy like the one you describe, I imagine you'd end up in a bit of a litigious nightmare. 

Seeing photos from England last night, I was just like:

1 hour ago, Dazey said:

My brother-in-law is an ER doctor. Had to check for a moment that it wasn't him in the news.  It's actually quite worrying because he's a great big fat fuck so he's going to get really sick if he catches the virus.

That seems a bit counter-intuitive for a doctor.

20 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

It's quite funny but there are actually many Norwegians that follow the Norwegian league and seem quite taken with Norwegian teams. I don't.

I mean, that doesn't seem strange to me, that seems like the normal thing  .

8 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Congrats, scousers. Well deserved. And may it never happen again. 

Hahaha, I can't really imagine following football in another country the way you seem to . Do you have a Norwegian team too? If you do, do you care about them as much as Manchester United?

9 hours ago, spunko12345 said:

Trumps got it sorted. If you scale back testing you get fewer confirmed cases. It's fucking genius really.

It's like not going to the doctor to avoid being diagnosed with cancer.

8 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

But what do you call someone from USA then if "American" is wrong? A "usaan"? And what would the appropriate adjective be? If we can't say "American car", what do we say? "US' car"? 

In México, they say "Estadounidense" (literally "Unitedstatesian") if they're feeling polite, and "Gringo" if they're not  .

5 hours ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Agree but the lefties also want to see the evil only.  He was still a product of his time everyone is flawed. But Churchill saved Europe  and England from utter destruction and domination by the Nazis.

Typically in the history classroom and the media we hear nothing but the 'great leader who defeated the Nazis' bit - I think it's fair that attention gets drawn to the other side of him too, and if that means knocking him off his pedestal (as it were) then so be it.

13 hours ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

People  who say they hate Nazis,deface a guy who took down the actual Nazis and prevented them from speaking German. 

Congrats Lefties you played yourself.

 

The argument is that his role as wartime Prime Minister is used to present him as a shining paragon of virtue that nobody can question - despite him expressing some pretty abhorrent views on racial superiority/inferiority that really aren't too different to those of the Nazis:

e.g.

“I do not admit, for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to those people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, or, at any rate, a more worldly wise race, to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.”

“I hate Indians…they are beastly people with a beastly religion.”

"The Aryan stock is bound to triumph."

It's not exactly ideologically inconsistent that people who hate the Nazis' views on race and eugenics would also be against the ideas expressed above and would reach the conclusion that Churchill opposed the Nazis mainly to defend Britain's independence, rather than because he was a great egalitarian who was morally offended by their classification of non-Aryans as "untermensch".

As such, it's entirely possible to hate what the Nazis stood for and to be equally critical of Churchill's views on race and his role in colonialism.

43 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Piss off you fucking hippy!  

Hahaha, you're married into a Mexican family, in my experience they're generally not fans of the United States being called "America"  .

5 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Yeah, us "British's" should really be ashamed of our education system.  

There is no "British" education system.

It looks like a Bill and Ted film, stylistically at least. The plot can be as silly as it wants, as long as it's funny, exciting and charming. Fingers crossed it holds up for the run time.

13 hours ago, Gavin82 said:

Both Mexico & Brazil confirm  new record deaths with 1000 & over 1300

México are re-opening, despite the fact their number of new infections continues to increase day after day, nevermind 'flattening the curve' they haven't even reached a peak. The President Andres Manuel López-Obrador has declared the pandemic conditions the "new normality". Bolsonaro-esque recklessness from López-Obrador, but it's been really hard to enforce lockdown in lots of the country because about half the population doesn't have the resources to stay at home without going out to work and convincing lots of people that the virus is even real, never mind to follow scientific guidelines, has been a real challenge.

On 29/05/2020 at 1:53 PM, DieselDaisy said:

Do people with science degrees/phds ever sit back and read a science book for fun, like I do history books? Genuine question. Graeme and his volcano porn need not answer.

Me coming into this thread:

On 25/05/2020 at 1:03 AM, DieselDaisy said:

Keir Starmer has the Tories where he should want them over this Cummings saga, if he should choose to accept the challenge: let's see if he can score a goal. 

PS

It is a fair point,

 

He was going from his place of work to his home at the point when the lockdown started, and has stayed there since. That's completely different to driving hundreds of miles from your home to someone else's weeks after lockdown was underway. By that logic, every MP who went from London back to their homes was guilty of the same thing as Cummings, as was anyone else who travelled home from wherever they were when the lockdown was declared. The reason why nobody is raging with them is because it's blatantly obvious that the two things are completely distinct, one is totally fine and the other one isn't. 

Also, that guy seems to have decided that Blackford was symptomatic because he went into self-isolation when he got back to Skye. According to Blackford, he only made the decision to do so as a precaution because he'd been in London where the virus was prevalent, whereas Cummings DEFINITELY had symptoms.

8 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Hope it tastes better than it looks! Looks like someone has decorated something my dog have regurgitated with avocado slices. "Avocado on a bed of dog barf". Now say that in French.

Wow...  .