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These guys did a great cover of the song.....they have also covered November Rain and Paradise City, not to mention everyone from Metallica to Pantera to AC/DC....you especially can't beat a band that has Quentin Tarantino (LOL!) on percussions....Here's the link:
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On 2/22/2017 at 3:06 AM, Padme said:
Kayne West got called out because he said he likes Trump. And rappers have been called out many times being accussed of promoting violence. I remember how Ice T got in trouble for the song Cop Killer
Funny how Ice T wrote a song called Cop Killer for Bodycount.....but then went on to play a Cop for years on Law and Order.
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2 minutes ago, Sosso said:
I'm still listening to albums rather than to selected songs. One song doesn't represent the quality of a whole record
Well, I'm happy for ya....but you have to realize that sometimes you get one good song.....and then 0 quality from the rest of the album.
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1 minute ago, Bono said:
I used to buy my CD's from HMV and I'd return albums all the time that i thought sucked. Not sure how many places actually allowed that but it was pretty cool
When you live in the sticks.....you didn't get that privilage back then. hahahahaha Searching the pawn shops was the most cost efficient way to find good music back then.
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46 minutes ago, Bono said:
yeah and does that matter though? With no releases there's no hope and no opportunity to enjoy anything. It's like asking a girl out. Sure she may shoot you down, but she might not. If ya never ask her though she can never say yes. 10 bad albums is better than no albums because at least they're trying and at least there's a chance for you to enjoy something and chances are nobody is ever gonna hate a full album completely so there will always be at least 1 song you enjoy. Plus no matter how many bad albums they release they don't affect the quality of the albums that we already have.
Thank God we have Youtube and Amazon to get samples of songs now...and you can purchase songs on an individual basis, if you want digitally.....or.....if this was still the 80s/90s.....I'd be writing the bands to refund me $50-$60 I dished out to buy their last 5 crappy records.
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46 minutes ago, default_ said:
You didnt like the albums they've released during the 90's but Fuel, for exemple, was and still is a very popular song in the whole world. Sometimes the stuff is just not our cup of tea, but theres a lot of people enjoying it so theres that.
That is true......but...it just doesn't feel like the same band at all.....We have the heavy metal band, "Metallica" prior to 1995, that put all their heart and anger into producing great metal. Then we also have the business that produces so called heavy metal and hard rock music, named "Metallica," that arrived when the Load album was dropped. See what I'm saying?
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5 hours ago, Bono said:
Having regular releases is way better. Even if they were mediocre there is always the anticipation or hopefulness of a new release. Sure the mystique created appeal and contributed largely to many of spending countless hours chatting on a message board but at the end of the day I'll take 7 album over chatting on a message board about an endless number of "What If topics". No offence but those saying the appeal was the mystique aren't being honest with themselves. The appeal was, is and would've been the music. The mystique simply kept us talking.
I myself would have like regular releases as well....but....I also go back to another band I like....Metallica.....who has several releases since their biggest selling album "The Black Album," and I can say that with the exception of Garage Days....I have been greatly disappointed each time. You have the "hope" of a great new release, that's only shattered each time when you listen to the full album.
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Just now, DieselDaisy said:
I was including his pancreas as an extra band member.
LOL! And on drums.....
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5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:
Guns N' Roses's original line-up was Rose, Slash, Duff, Stradlin, McKagan. End of discussion.
The original had 2-Duff's in it??? I'm sure you meant Adler. hahahahahha
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Just to pop this in as well....
If you asked someone who was the original bassist of Metallica??? They reply, "Cliff Burton" and you would be WRONG......it's Ron McGovney.....Ron was the original bassist for Metallica for the 1st year of Gigs, and also played on demos......but......95% of Metallica fans, have no clue who that even is......
In addition....who was the original lead guitarist of Metallica???? If you once again answer "Dave Mustane," you would be WRONG again.....it's Lloyd Grant...the man that only played on the first Metallica Demo for "Hit the Lights" when it was submitted.....but never became an "official member" before being replaced by Dave Mustane....who was replaced by Hammick, even before the first album dropped.
Here's why I included this tid-bit: I think when it comes down to "Original Members," you have to go with the line-up that contributed the most to the first album/first major tour, or "solidified" the group.....So for GnR....I go with the AFD-5...even though others like Tracii may have toured when the band was small/getting a start.....you go with the line-up that contributed to "solidifying/establishing" the group.
Same with Metallica....I don't think you're gonna include Ron McGovney in your "Original Line-up," even though he played on demos/played with some shows....he didn't aid in "solidifying" the band.
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Don't know if anyone else remembers this band. The debuted when I was around 10 years old or so.....but they were actually marketed/called "The Most Real Rock n Roll Band Since Guns n Roses." I did notice that Jizzy Pearl from this band, is now the front man for both Ratt and Quiet Riot at this time.
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On 7/11/2017 at 9:05 PM, Towelie said:
Bet Tool comes first.
Probably so....but....do we really need another album of 10-12 songs that also sound identical to the other 50 or so they already made? I think that's part of why it takes them so long to make material, there's only so much you can do with the same 3 chords.
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No votes for Boston's debut yet??? Didn't that album sell like 10-12 million copies or so?
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Thanks for the clips. I see what you mean with the look/sound.
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Made in Stoke, or Live at the Roxy? Looking at purchasing one of the Blu-Ray editions, just want to get an opinion from someone who has seen/heard both. Thanks.
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Here's the list in order of release: "It's Five O' Clock Somewhere" (1995) "Ain't Life Grand" (2000) "Slash" (2010) "Apocalyptic Love" (2012) "World on Fire" (2014)
I'll exclude the Live albums from the list for now.
It's everyone's personal preference, but personally I go with:
1. Apocalyptic Love
2. Slash
3. It's Five O' Clock Somewhere
4. World on Fire
5. Ain't Life Grand
I could easily swap 3 and 4 around, but I have a soft spot for '90s nostalgia.
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If you can't get the SNES Classic, here is a great solution.... I have one of these, works great...you can even use the original NES and SNES controllers if you choose. I still had a # of the cartridges for both from my youth, this system works great with all games so far, and plugs in via A/V cables.
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I don't think there is any kind of Government Conspiracy or anything....the track "My World" should imply part of the band's problem.....
It's known that Axl started getting into NIN and Industrial music pretty heavily, and I honestly think he just wanted to take what to him was "his" band in a different direction to stay in tune with popular music of that time.
Slash has even stated in interviews that the band had gone from 5 guys having fun/playing in a band, to a huge production that began featuring baby grand pianos on stage, back-up singers, etc....when he just wanted the fun rock and roll band, himself. I think it's more creative differences/egos/drugs more than anything between the members.
As far as not hearing anything out of Axl from '96-'01.....look how much the music scene changed during that time......"Grunge" was already phasing out by the late 90s, given birth to "Slop Rock" and "Nu-Metal." You heard some electronica/industrial music in rock/metal from bands like Prodigy, Rammstein, NIN, Marilyn Manson, and even Smashing Pumpkins featured some form of that on their late albums. Other bands like Limp Bizkit, Korn, Slipknot, Incubus, etc....started becoming hugely popular from a "new" sound. Bands that sound similar to Guns, with a hard-rock basis were completely non-existent at this time as well (Skid Row for example.)
Is it possible that Axl just sat back to escape the spotlight/rigors of touring for a bit, check out the music scene, and try new material to see what direction he wanted "his band" to go in, in comparison with music of that time?? Think about it....Slash was still making music around this time with Slash's Snakepit...and it wasn't exactly tearing up the charts/he was touring smaller venues/clubs. Izzy's solo effort didn't hit big at all with the general public. Even other successful bands had to change direction/sound to try and stay relevant: Metallica's Load Album, Motley Crue firing Vince Neil/hiring John Carobi, even Dangerous Toys tried to go "Grunge" for an album.
The "Oh My God" single released on the End of Days Soundtrack also shows what Axl wanted to steer GnR toward, and was in tune with the style that was popular at that time. I really don't think there is any kind of conspiracy; only egos, creative differences, the struggle with fame/wealth, and musical tasted that led to the "demise" during this time.
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On 7/2/2017 at 3:51 PM, Gnrcane said:
The most impressive part is that the tempo is so close that the audio pretty much syncs up.
As for the point of the video, I wish I was still 16, but I'm not. There is pretty much no singer that sounds the same at 55 as they did when they were 29. Steven Tyler is the best that I've heard in maintaining his "signature sound" well into his 50's.
Axl still can sound like Axl in the lower registers and the screams. Perhaps he can still hit the mid range rasp with a lot of effort on occasion but not consistently. Either that or it hurts to do it. It's definitely possible that he has done damage to his vocal chords over the years. Remember that thing he used to do before SCOM on the UYI tour? I'm sure those types of things add up over time especially if he wasn't using proper technique back then.
Agreed that Steven has maintained his "sound" well....but....his signature "sound' as we know it, didn't come until the 80s. Especially if you listen to the first Aerosmith album, his vocal sound changed a lot from then, until the sound of "Permanent Vacation." I really don't see how most front-men couldn't change from all the vocals used year in/year out, and getting older as well. Even guys like James Hetfield has changed somewhat as he's gotten older too, and he really doesn't hit the "high notes."
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On 6/27/2017 at 9:35 AM, SoulMonster said:
Yes, that is the important thing to me, too. Classic guns existed in a limited period of time. It is now gone. It can't be recreated even if the same guys came back together. Because thye arent't really the same guys. Nor are we. The context has changed. They are distanced from who they were in the 80s, and so are we. It is gone and it is dead and long live the memories. So I couldn't care less if the lineup consists of 2 of those guys, or 3 of them, or even 5 - it still simply won't be the same. At least not to us who actually lived through that time and don't simply know the band from youtube and yearn for a period they never got to experience. The passion that drove them, the interplay that came fron hungry musicians living and breathing together, living under the streets, the raw feelings and controverses, lyrics that resonate with a specific time -- it can just never be recreated by these 5 guys again. It might superficially look like that band, or superficially sound like it, but it won't ever be that band. So if we want that real 1980s GN'R experience, with warts and all, we'd be better off with a lineup consisting of new hungry guys who resembled the band members back then, rather than a bunch of bloated, musical celebrities who come together from their mansions to do corporate nostalgia tours.
That's what I was hoping for with nuGuns. That it was comprised of guys who felt they had everything to prove. And felt the weight of the band legacy on their shoulders so that whatever they created would be good and interesting and take the band somewhere new. And with Axl there to create that important sonical connection to previous records. To make it an actual continuance. Now, with this lineup, I fear the best we can ever get is a live record from nostalgia tours. And I am happy for those that take pleasure in this watered-down version of the band, wteher they realize it or not, I am genuinly happy for all those that felt that this lineup was everything they wanted, to me it is just a step backwards, or rather a large step in absolutely no direction at all.
What you said in the first paragraph is completely true.......you can't expect a band to sound exactly the same as they did in their hey-day, just because they get back together now....
For example....take Van Halen's "A Different Kind of Truth" that came out in 2012.....you had 3 of the 4 originals back together, and the album was no where near as good as their early albums, but that was who the bad was at that point.
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On 6/27/2017 at 6:19 AM, megaguns1982 said:
my only real concern in this reunion is that Axl may have heaps of new gnr material he wants to put out while duff and slash want to start fresh.... it's anyone's guess what will happen but I'd guarantee that slash and duff want an album that will live up to the legacy
I would like some fresh material/new start myself....but wouldn't have a problem with using material Axl has worked on/hasn't put out, as long as Slash/Duff agreed and liked the songs as well......It would be neat to see some early demo songs finished/added like "Bring it Back Home."
Best bet for me....would be to see a completely fresh album......then maybe later on, like an "unreleased/rarieties" album from 2010-2015 or so, of material Axl worked on, but wasn't released. That would be interesting as well.
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In all honesty....to the general public....
Axl and Slash are to GnR, what Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen were to the Chicago Bulls......as long as you have the 2 main attractions, you can fill in the rest with anyone, and most don't notice.
Same can be said of The Stones (Mick and Keith), Aerosmith (Steven and Joe), Kiss (Gene and Paul), etc......
True fans know what's up with their bands, but, to the general public, most just care about the "stars" being together.
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Don't know if anyone else ever listened to the comedian, Tim Wilson, but he had this quote to say about Kurt Cobain one time:
"Kurt Cobain.....now there's a waste of humanity. The man couldn't play, the man couldn't sing....yet he hated the world, just because he was paid millions of dollars, to give it a good try."
Which opening acts would you like to see at the NA tour?
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You notice on a lot of shows, that opening acts are pulled regionally.....I figured at the Louisville show in November, you would see Cage the Elephant as the opener, since their home town is just about 1 hour away.