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Was Chris Vrenna really quoted as saying, "Moby was rad?" 

20 hours ago, It don't really matter said:

Does anyone here know if Axl actually jumped off that oil tanker,or did they hire a stuntman?

No, but he swam endlessly with the dolphins through miles of the Pacific Ocean terrain, until they, along with a pack of mermaids escorted him back to the shores of Los Angeles.

On 10/9/2018 at 1:59 PM, J Dog said:

Love Yesterdays. Once you get past AFD, it’s songs like Yesterdays, 14 Years, Bad Obsession etc that really make Guns shine. They really get that sound. 

I agree....14 Years, Yesterdays, and Dead Horse I feel are great songs that get overlooked too often.

5 hours ago, action said:

this thread seriously needs an injection of super-cringe appetite worship

 

Judging by that video thumbnail.....I didn't realize the Moby was such a huge fan of Appetite. 

11 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

Oh my God.. I have never seen this before and it kicks ass..   I actually think Myles does pretty good with this one but I would love to hear Axl over this band.

 

This one is even better:

I know there's a difference between "best" and "most talented."  Addler is probably the "best" drummer for GnR in particular, but Brain is the "most talented" drummer that GnR ever had.

Canter says it himself in this doc from 2015.....If you can just get the 2 together in this rehearsal space, with no management involved..."Beautiful music will pour out of their souls." 

Come on everyone....let's forget the competition thing...Can't we just enjoy both shows from that era?  Both are great!!

14 hours ago, sidman69 said:

https://gnrcentral.com/2018/08/27/guns-n-roses-guitarist-slashs-earnings-from-2017-revealed/

Slash is apparently losing "Patience" with his wife over how long the divorce settlement is taking. Her lawyers claim Slash has not properly represented his earnings and that he reportedly made $45M last year. Good God if that is true imagine how much Axl is making! Slash apparently revealed he was previously making $345K per month prior to the GNR reunion.

 

 

Slash, when you're going through a divorce, just "Ain't Life Grand?"

When it's over, your ex-wife will be ready to set the "World on Fire," and will be "Living The Dream" will all that money she gets.

You'll wish that "It's 5 o' Clock Somewhere" when it's finalized, and probably feel like you're left "Standing in the Sun."

I could go on for days......

On 8/27/2018 at 9:53 AM, Tom-Ass said:

But they didn't sound like them to the extent that GVF sounds like Zeppelin. Guns sound nothing like Hanoi Rocks (thank God). The singer of GVF sounds exactly like Plant.. The Harmonies, phrasing and even the lyrics to an extent are a total rip off.  I have only heard a few songs so I can't speak for their entire album. 

You've pretty much heard everything then....I really like GVF as well myself, but they have basically released 2 EP's to this date, with the 2nd EP containing like 3 of the 4 songs from the first EP (Black Smoke Rising-EP and From the Fires-EP) All together, they have less than 10 original songs released to this point...but hey....that's much more original content than GnR has put over the last 10 years. 

I will be happy with a new, full length GVF album, as well as a new, full length GnR album, no matter what the majority of the content is. 

On 8/23/2018 at 10:38 AM, Caught_in_a_Coma said:

Album should be titled "Lose Your Illusions", I think the Estranged video says this at the end of it

What about "Use Your Protrusion."  They can even have Ron Jeremy sitting cross legged, writing on a journal for the album cover....

Don't know if anyone else knows this...but "Use Your Illusion 3" has already been taken/used, seriously, by the band Treephort :

https://www.amazon.com/Use-Your-Illusion-III-Treephort/dp/B0002IQA72

Since Everyone was on the "Crash Diet" topic earlier on in this thread, whose version do you think is best?

On 8/20/2018 at 2:26 PM, Stoymatic said:

What makes everyone hate My World so much? Is it because it sounds nothing like any other GnR song? It's basically an outro to a double album.

What could have made My World a better song? Or even a full length track?

21 hours ago, Stoymatic said:

Completely agree. It truly is different than anything else GnR at that time. I also do not understand all of the hate. Artists make changes to whatever it is that they do. That is what My World was a sample of. The band was experimenting with a different type of sound, and it sounded different than any other song they had made. Artistic progression usually results in better music over the course of time. There have been so many bands that have had continued success after making the transition to a different sound, and GnR would not have been an exception.

On 8/20/2018 at 5:11 PM, baldek said:

I like My World. After all these years, and looking back, it's funny how it sort of bonds with OMG and Silkworms type of sound, thus proving that Axl really was into experimenting and getting serious with industrial.

I believe he trully was gravitating towards that kind of sound and Chinese Democracy, suffering from its creator's swing of musical influences, eventually became the vehicle that picked up passengers from different nationalities, got them all together without really trying to make any sense of it and hoped for the best - you get rockers, ballads, epics, industrial, guitar solos, questionable beats and a whole lot of other stuff that's going on in there.

I dig it. All of it.

I gonna point this out to see if anyone else agrees.....Everyone refers to My World as an "Industrial Experimentation" in music for Axl....But....has anyone else ever noticed how similar that song sounds to a lot of the Insane Clown Posse's work from the Mid-90s to Mid-00s or so?? Axl's vocals in My World could totally pass for Violent J, especially in more recent years....I'll also share this song below...cause this may blow your mind if you are a "young-un" and don't know this.....

Slash left GnR around, what '95 or '96, basically due to creative differences with Axl/the offered contract not as a "partner"/wanting to play classic rock style...etc.....Well, this particular song was released in August of 1997, and yes....that is Slash playing the guitar track on this song....but you wouldn't know it if you just heard the riff alone...Don't believe me, look at the Album's credits. So I just wonder if Slash really might have considered going with a more "industrial" sound for some songs possibly, if he and Axl could have put their difference aside....

I also forgot that "Wildslide" released Crash Diet too....HUM....lot of recordings considering the song basically went no where....Just wonder how it would have done under the GnR banner?

32 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Wouldn't be surprised. Axl and Arkeen sold the rights of Crash Diet to another band way back in the early 90s.

Yep, Asphalt Ballet....who started out as an early 90s clash of hair metal/hard rock, then tried to go more alternative for the album Crash Diet was included on....The album tanked, and the band basically broke up...But, you can hear some Axl vocals on the background of the chorus. 

Here's the latest material that Wes dropped....just as crazy as the rest of his shit.....I remember when GnR did the '02 VMA's, it was the first time my college roommate had seen Buckethead, and he asked why Axl has a "Generic Wes Borland" in his band. LOL

http://loudwire.com/engineer-mike-fraser-spotted-with-acdc-members-at-studio/

Looks like a new album is in the works....The report notes that Fraser was pictured with Phil Rudd and Brian Johnson outside the studio....also noting that Chris Slade and Axl Rose have not been seen....then goes on to note the Fraser's presence suggests a new album is being recorded, since he mixed the last 3 AC/DC albums.

9 minutes ago, liers said:

Tool has gotten the same comparisons. I believe it’s been over 10 years since their last album

 

The problem with Tool, according to the producer was that the songs were "way too long" and Maynard apparently hasn't finished any vocals....Maynard also stated on Joe Rogan's podcast that "there was a little bit of fear" in releasing the new album, due to the length of time since the last, also stating he asks himself, "Is it gonna be as good as the last one."  Maynard also led to a "timing" issue with being able to get the rest of the band in the studio.....

That's all sounded like excuses to me, considering he's released new stuff with Puscifer and A Perfect Circle recently...not to mention that the rest of the band has been doing these "music workshops" you can pay up front  to attend/ask questions, and they'll even play you a snippet of some new music they've worked on....I just think that band is afraid of not meeting the expectations, and keep delaying everything.

20 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

So they too are going to wait 15 yrs to release an absolute pig of an album that no one gives a fuck about?  Whoopee.  What a fuckin' trend to start eh, the art of not releasing music

I don't think they started it....System of a Down and Rage Against the Machine have also worked sparingly on new material after reforming, but have never released anything.....only continued to tour/play shows. Sound like anybody else we know, that has finished material in the vault that's not been released??  

Don't have a clue how I stumbled into this information.....but....apparently, Limp Bizkit has been working on a new album called "Stampede of the Disco Elephants" since approximately March of 2012, that has yet to be "officially" released. What's crazy.....the band originally started recording the album on the "Cash Money Records" Label...since, you know, that label is notorious for putting out Rock and Metal Albums (joke), before actually releasing 4 singles from the album by 2014, then leaving Cash Money to go "in a different direction," for finishing the album. (Had no clue they actually put out 4 singles in this time period.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stampede_of_the_Disco_Elephants

Here's what's more crazy....apparently Fred Durst claims that he secretly leaked the album online to file sharing programs sometime around 2016, yet there is no one who has yet to come forward as to saying that hey have found the album, which Durst claims was on Soul Seek. 

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/fred_durst_says_limp_bizkits_new_album_has_been_online_for_over_a_year

Finally, guitarist Wes Borland doesn't think that the band should release any new material at all....stating the band is now a "nostalgia act" and "what's the point of making a new album."

http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/wes-borland-on-limp-bizkits-new-album-nobody-wants-to-hear-new-material-anyway

Can't say I actually followed anything going on with this band much after Borland first left the band, and they released a bummer of an album in "Results May Vary." But, I was around 18 years old when they released "Significant Other" which I really did like that album at lot at that time period........not so much as I aged. I was surprised to find that they continued to tour some, and attempted new music the past few years, I figured the group was disbanded totally by now....

Can't help but see the similarities between this period of time, and GnR's--nuGuns period to current....It has taken both a ridiculous amount of time to release a basically finished album....and you can view the current GnR line up as basically a nostalgia act as well....which I have also wondered if there is really any point in the reformed line-up releasing new material as well??? Once can hope, but it's hard to see it ever coming to fruition. 

I think most have hopes on the CD II songs, just because there is "something" there...We at least know there is something unheard, and something is better than nothing at all. But the hopes of actually hearing it, are dismal. 

Like a lot of 90's movies...The End of Days Soundtrack was actually a lot better than the actual movie. 

To me "Load" is one of the musical changing moments I wish had never happened....As a 15 year old when "Load" was released....my friends and I were very confused when "Until it Sleeps," appeared on MTV. We saw these guys who were once great thrash/metal rockers playing a soft/slow tempo-alternative ballad or sorts, with a completely different image. It felt like all the rage that once fueled the band died at that moment, and you really were hearing a whole new band. I still don't know why that particular song was chosen to be the first single/new song released in about 5 years....I would have went with a harder rocker like King Nothing myself, but not my call.....

Anyway, I can never shake the feeling that Metallica officially did "sale out" with that release. The reason being....the band reached a huge height of success with "The Black Album" which brought a lot of fame and cash not previously received for the band. I do believe the objective of the Load release wasn't to "experiment" a  new sound, or evolve, but to jump at the opportunity to become "The Biggest Band in the World." I think that's why you had guys that were previously "Thrashers" suddenly cut their hair, adopt a more alternative image shown on MTV at that time, appear in "Cabana Suits" on the album artwork, and even include an album cover made from "Goat's Blood," then declare that "Metal is dead." I just felt like with no GnR, no Nirvana due to Kurt's death, a slump of sorts for Pearl Jam at that time in 1996, and fading Seattle Sound......there was no front runner to take over as the most sought after band, and Metallica made these changes to try and claim that throne....Not to mention how much James cleaned up his act on stage, compared to previous years.....That's the moment Metallica turned into a brand, instead of a band, and you couldn't make money at that time producing Metal, instead of Alternative Hard Rock.

In retrospect, Load and Reload are not all that bad, but I just wish it had been made under a different band name. I did own both when they came out, and I really did like "The Memory Remains" when it was released, but still missed the thrash material. Metallica would have been completely ok with sticking by the Metal Sound, as we saw a lot of bands that tried to experiment or go more alternative at that time, but were ok with returning to form at at later time, once the 90s ended. Just why did you have to do that at that time Metallica???

That's why I'll always stick by UYI's as being the superior albums. Top to bottom, the song structures and material withstands time much better for future generations, while I'll feel that Load and Reload were caught in the 90s landscape.

Just a couple of questions......From my understanding, Axl still owns the rights to the GnR name, but didn't he sell the rights to the back catalog some years ago??

Secondly, if there is new material, and there are some disputes/negotiations with the current record label as to release....Is there a current contract in place, that says GnR must provide another record to the label, or is there any kind of deal in place at all??? If not, what's stopping Axl from starting an independent label, such as Metallica did, to release new material on "his" or the band's own terms?? I can see if he sold the back catalog, why that would not be possible, but what would prevent future releases, which could also involve any live material as well?

Brian didn't sound too bad 8 months ago on stage with Muse.....May not be a full out world tour if AC/DC makes a new album, but I assume he can do a limited schedule at the least, depending on clearance from a Doctor.