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I guess it's pretty clear that Axl will not be able to complete the whole tour so I guess they have to decide how to finish it - if they play in munich tomorrow I'm pretty sure we will not see them in hannover or even not in vienna. If they decide to take a longer break and skip munich we might see them on the last 3 dates.

One thing is for sure the 3 hours + concerts will definitly be over for this tour...

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On 8.9.2018 at 8:31 AM, Italian girl said:

Why did he choose venues so Small??

The interest for a slash solo shows has definitly dropped since he has joined GnR again - if the album is average as his other outputs I don't think these venues will sell out very fast...

He has lost all the people who went to see him in the bigger venues a few years ago as it was the only chance to see him play gnr songs - now they got the real deal and theres no need to watch myles try to sing gnr songs anymore.

It will definitly be interesting to see slash going on tour with The Conspirators in 2019 and the cycle from 20 years ago will start again and he will be asked more GnR related questions than his solo career - and every single word of him will be overanalyzed. Or he will decide to not talk about GnR at all in the coming 2 years.

2 hours ago, D.. said:

Anybody can think whatever they want. Some people loved the band without Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven, and consider Axl as the only one that matters. When I was in Norway in 2010, I was surprised at how many people were here for Axl only.

 

Of course they came for axl as he was the only person from the original band during that time - but it has nothing to do with all these people thinking that Axl is GnR - it was just the fact that it was the only possibility to see axl perform live

I hope by european tour 2020 they mean some festival dates to raise some interest in the band again and to debut some new (upcoming) single and release an album soon afterwards.

All other options to play Europe in 2 years wouldn't make any sense and I highly doubt they would still sell out stadiums with the same show/setlist

The problem to other bands that don't realease new music is that GnR just works in the current setting as long as the big money from stadium tours is coming in. As soon as this band can't fill stadiums anymore it's over - because at this point slash can earn the same amount of money with his solo career and doens't have to deal with the axl drama (I'm pretty sure there is still a lot of drama going on behind the scenes which we don't know about)

So they have to realease sth in the near future to stay at the stadium level to keep this thing going.

13 minutes ago, TiedHands said:

I think to call Richard, someone who has been in the band longer than Slash and Duff ever were, "some session musician" is pretty disenguous.

18 years won't change the fact that he has done nothing for the legendary legacy of the band or contributed anything to any gnr release PLUS not a single ticket more or less would have been sold if he wouldn't have been part of the tour - I guess that makes him a session/live musician and nothing else

19 minutes ago, baldek said:

 

Speaking for myself, and having been to Lisbon, Prague, Paris, Berlin and Madrid, all of them were special in their own way. Funny enough, each had a different setlist, so that's something I can't really complain about. If you ask me, it's either new music or retire for good; GN'R is starting to cash in on nostalgia and that's one of the main reasons I didn't buy the AFD Super Deluxe, that unboxing video gave me nausea, as it seemed like my favourite band was now some kind of old fucking museum art piece.

 

I'm pretty sure that all of my 4 shows also had a different setlist - but for me switching Patience/Don't Cry or playing an additional CD song is not enough for calling it a different setlist. They should have had  a pool of about 50 songs ready which they could have mixed up the setlist a little bit (of course with old songs as it was the reunion tour) - that would have made the concerts a little bit less predictable

6 minutes ago, Alexmee239 said:

Where did u get this schedule from

Infomail from ticketmaster.nl

Tijdschema:
16.00u - Terrein open
17.30u - Gojira
18.00u - Pauze/Changeover
18.20u - Volbeat
19.05u - Pauze/changeover
19.30u - Guns N' Roses
23.00u - Verwacht einde 

3.30 h show 

Would be great to here some kind of tribute to Vinnie today - maybe skip BHS and play Cemetery Gates  for example - would be great to here axls take on that song

Are there any public viewing places regarding the world cup in the city? Chances are quit good that Spain will play at 16.00 on this day

Don't expect any wonders tonight - it always took axl 3 or 4 nights to improve - the maximum tonight will be a much better sound and slightly improvements here and there

I'm always surprised that people who come reguarly to this board are surprised that the first few shows (and especially the first one) are bad - this is more or less a good old gnr tradition. I wouldn't have gone to this show even if i would live in berlin.

The only dissapointment I have is that it seems like that also the technical crew seems to be in auto mode and doesn't really care - I'm pretty sure that sth like this would never have happened on the first european leg and the first euro show with the original 3. Just shows that the excitement of the whole reunion thing has been faded on all sides a little bit.

I'm pretty sure that we will get some good shows in the next weeks (especially in barcelona and NL where I will go) but it's also a good thing that this tour will stop after the short nov leg - I guess it's time for everyone involved to do something fresh und new.

Great news!!

As I don't want to travel to another country to see a shorter festival set and prefer watching them in other venues than football stadiums there aren't really mmuch choices left.

I guess this leaves Goffertpark and tallinn (the venue there looks amazing)

As it's still labeld as NITL tour I guess we can't expect any major changes to the setlist

28 minutes ago, default_ said:

It seems Slash confirmed to a fan in one of the last shows that there will be a SMKC album and tour in 2018.
Guy posted an autographed litho to prove he had the contact.

I believe thats what gonna happen, but not sure we can believe in someone just because he had an autographed litho.

I don't see a big problem doing both -he could record the ne SMKC album from january till april- then go on tour with guns in may/june in europe - after that release the new record and go on tour in autumn/winter 2018

I wonder why Axl/Angus are so optimistic regarding this whole Axl/DC thing - I mean the last tour has been great in that regard that a lot of people went to see them because they thought it's a one off thing and the only chance to see these two on stage together.

I don't think the demand would be that high if a new album or a new tour would be announced - I guess a lot of AC/DC fans turned their backs on the band since there is only one original member left - and I don't think that many GNR fans will come again just to see Axl sing AC/DC songs (again I think this is seen by most of the music fans as a one time sensation and that's it) so everything Axl AC/DC related in the future just seems like a big waste of time for me...

Have we heard anything regarding the NITL tour for 2018 yet? I guess a lot of you guys are expecting them to do another european leg next year but have we heard any rumours yet? I remember last year there have been a lot of rumours regarding the european tour already in nov/oct and the dates have finally been announced mid dec if I remember correctly. So I guess if there would be any plans reagarding further touring we would have heard anything by now - or does the complete lack of rumours point to a year off for the band?

It isn't really fair to give 2001 good votes just because it has been the first concert of NuGNR (in reality it has been the second I know) - ant therefore the anticipation has been much higher. 

The votes for 2017 would also be much better if it would have been the first concert with Slash & Duff - apart from axls bad voice (which wouldn't have been the case if it would have been the first reunion show)

So it would ony be fair to vote based on musical reasons and there every concert including Axl/Slash/Duff will always be miles ahead of any NuGNR incarnation

10 minutes ago, moreblack said:

And they'll probably do the same with whatever new songs GNR comes out with. Most ppl will sit on their hands waiting for SCOM or Jungle to come on.

I'm totaly fine with people doing this during the NITL tour for example - you can't reach 50.000+ crowds every 2nd night without these people who are just there for the "hits".

A new Gun'n Roses song written by Axl/Slash/Duff - apart from the quality of the material - would at least get a much better reaction than the CD material, which is still seen by most of the people as Axls Solo stuff and never really got a fair chance from most of the gnr fans

5 minutes ago, moreblack said:

True, I remember SMK&C playing some of the same venues in South America that Axl's band was playing.

During that time SMKC profited a lot from the fact that NuGNR have been struggeling a lot and Axl also gave some poor performances. During that time the comon understanding has been that this was the closest thing you can get to GnR  - just remember the endless discussions here on this forum who of both singers performed the classics better. Thank god these times are over - Slash solo  will never play in front of such hugh crowds again.

I rember the crowd in vienna (also 10.000+) just sang along to the gnr classic and didn't even know slash solo songs - reminded me a lot of nuGNR playing CD songs

This whole topic will also show us how close Axl und Slash are again - if axl feels pressured by slash to do sth creative or else he will leave with SMKC this might generate some new conflicts again. On the other hand slash could use his power as a GnR album withouth him would make no sense at all - but we all know what happens if someone is pressuring Mr Rose for sth...

The worst thing would be Axl going back to AC/DC which would result in slash going also solo again - AXL/DC is just a major waste of time - nearly no creative input from axl on any material so it wouldn't make any sense - I really loved the live show last year (although I'm not a big ACDC fan) but for me it was great because I saw it as a once in a lifetime combination I would never see again. (and I don't want to see it again to be honest  )

1 hour ago, Iron MikeyJ said:

While I agree Slash has earned TONS of money the last 2 years, you are forgetting one big thing... his ego. How many legendary musicians do you see opening up for bigger acts constantly? Not very often. Sure you might see a one or two show type thing (like zz top opening for guns in texas), but they can also go and play by themselves easily. The Conspiritors never achieved that, not to the level I'm talking. You won't see Mick Jagger open for The Who. Why? It's an ego thing. Slash has officially reclaimed his title as the best rock guitarist in the world by being back in guns, he couldn't do that on his own, he tried, but it wasn't working out. Sure he had some success, but I view it more as "I need to work to make money" type of thing. Same with Axl in Nugnr, he had to tour every so often in order to make some money in order to keep up his lifestyle. Now that money isn't much of an issue anymore, why go back to playing second fiddle to Joe Perry (by opening for aerosmith), when you are the man in guns? Its a whole different vibe being the opening act vs the headliner. 

Could he do it as a straight act of love? Absolutely, I'm not denying this possibility. But if you don't have to, why do it? Why play junior varsity sports when you could star on varsity? It's just not logical imo. 

Could Slash feel like he owes Myles and the rest one more album/tour? Perhaps, and that might be the reason it does happen, IF it indeed does. I just don't see any indications that he had MORE fun playing with them than he does with Guns, honestly from my eyes, he IS having more fun playing with Guns, and the reasons I mentioned could be part of it. Also lets not forget, the supposed next Conspiritors album keeps getting pushed back. Why do you think that is? Could it be that he is considering making some of those songs Guns songs now??? Maybe? Only time will tell.

 

As for your Izzy comments, while I don't disagree with you in certain aspects, I don't completely agree either. I loved guns in 1992, and Izzy wasn't there then. So I'm not going to beg for him now.

I think the only possibilty for Slash going back doing solo stuff is if Axl doesn't want to record or do anything Guns related for the next 2 years or so. I totaly agree that this would be a dumb move as they should use the monumentum from this tour to release at least SOMETHING together - apart fromt the question who would be involved, a collaboration of Axl/Slash/Duff would be much better than a Slash solo record that's for sure.

Never liked Myles as a singer - now after seeing Guns again I totaly lost all interest...