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An all Synth Album with Melissa Reese called "Reese's (Master)Pieces" 

22 hours ago, MattleyCrue said:

I think it’s just rad to wear the gear that the boss wears 

Eh, I mean yes and no. A cool shirt or something, I can see. I just see people go to extremes to rip the guy off and that ain't cool. 

I never got the idea of ripping off someone else's style, unless it's for halloween or something... just my opinion. To each their own I guess. 

I enjoyed to 2002-06 era. It seemed more organic. The shows were actually "shows" - Axl's banter was entertaining, and part of the adrenaline of whether or not he will show up, whether or not he would throw a tirade, or start a riot was kind of enjoyable in some sick, twisted way. It all seems manufactured. It seems like a bunch of employees doing their "job." Don't get me wrong, the shows have been pretty solid for the most part, despite Axl not being his best vocally, but there's just something off about it. It's hard to compare eras - you're never gonna have the illusions era again. I just think you're looking at a bunch of guys cashing in on a huge opportunity. 

I don't blame the band one bit for cashing in on opportunity. I think most of us would do the same. I don't consider Axl or anyone "sellouts." They're just doing what's right by them and their loved ones. 

I just think the excitement of this "NITL" tour wore off rather quickly. 

Might be a product of modern technology. Nowadays it is impossible to prevent bootlegs. Everyone has a high def recording device in their pocket, so you're getting the shows real time. Back in 02-06, you had to wait hours - sometimes days, weeks or months for even low quality clips. The thrill of actually going to the shows was something more that doesn't exist anymore - but I guess that can apply to any live act.

Maybe I'm just a cantankerous old man... lol

IT'S GONNA BRING YOU TO YA KNEEEEEEEES! 

2 minutes ago, GNR 1991 said:

Nah they played a handful of shows that summer w/ 4tus prior to the VMA’s

That's right. It's a bit of a blur. 

Isn't this Fortus' first appearance with the band - I'm probably mistaken, I drank alot between then and now. 

It was definitely a trainwreck performance, and Axl winded himself early with the running around during jungle, but you are not a Guns fan if you didn't lose your shit when Fallon announced them. 

It was an interesting era for sure. I had a lot of fun back then. 

It was a more fun era back then. No knock on Slash or Duff, but the mystery shrouded in that entire era was a shit show. Axl was a loose cannon. I'm not the biggest fan of this sedated, mellow Axl. 

"Amazing" vocal performances from Axl. Slash may want to get his hearing checked before recording a new album, because if that's what he thought of Axl's Disneyworld GnR performance, then I just don't know... 

Any version in which Axl gets "some reggae." 

Overblown and probably mispoken to a degree. Izzy's strength has always been in his songwriting and lyrics. Slash has always been the better standalone player. I don't think he meant it literally, but Izzy isn't exactly going to blow you away with his technical skills. From that standpoint, he's been one of the lesser guitarists GNR has ever rostered. His contributions on a deeper level cannot be undersold. 

1. Silkworms

2. Everything else 

If I wanted something yellow, I would have wanted that raincoat Axl wore in 2011. 

Pass

I saw them three times in 2016; FedEx Field in Landover, MD, and both MetLife shows in Rutherford, NJ.

I have mixed feelings.

I did - for the most part enjoy the shows. The sets were the longest, and most expansive we've seen, and have gotten even longer as the tour went along. I think they play pretty much everything they should. Not a whole lot of "surprises." Maybe even a simple change in the song order would keep things a little fresh. Guns offer up so many classic songs that have to be played, that it doesn't lend itself to too much variation. 

Axl's voice has slipped progressively from 2016 to now. 2016 it was passable, but still not ideal. He sounded a whole lot better singing with AC/DC, that it is almost insulting. 

My biggest complaint is that it doesn't seem organic. Fans go to concerts for a "show" - some ad-libbing, some spontaneity, some interaction. Axl used to interact with the band more - both old and new. Not gonna come clamoring for "rants" like he used to be known for, but a little more interaction between both the bandmates and fans would make it come off a little less "forced."

It does come off as a very cookie cutter, cash grab of a tour. 

Not to say that it hasn't largely been "good" or enjoyable. I had a blast at the shows I went to. I do however, think that the novelty wore off fairly quick, and people saw the tour for what it really is - not that those of us with any shred of intelligence didn't already know.

I wish the guys mucho financial success - they're doing a killer job in that regard, but I think steps can be taken to make even more money, as well as a more enjoyable show for all. I don't think fans that already saw this tour would come back around in a lot of markets unless the band had something new to offer, even if it meant a tour with the original five, with no new music. 

Comparatively speaking - yes, he is on par, or better in some instances than some other singers from the same era. I guess since we're not paying to see those guys, we hold the dude to a higher standard. I got a free ticket to the Crue farewell tour at MSG... holy shit, you couldn't pay me to endure that again. I felt bad for the other musicians, who really brought it that night - Vince was a hot mess. 

I think this show is more novelty over quality. There was an aura of mystery still surrounding a lot of stuff back then, before the internet got really huge, and everyone had access to everything in the palm of their hands. House of Blues was more one of those things where if you weren't there, you didn't know. If there were a million smartphone, facebook, IG, snapchat videos of every show back then the way there is now, there would be no mystery and no interest in anything like a pretty mediocre House of Blues show. 

It was cool at the time, but let's not pretend Axl didn't sound like shit, or the band wasn't overly tight at the start. If you've seen RIR3, like most of us have, you're not missing much with this. The same winded, Mickey Mouse Axl, with sloppy play from Robin, and a few bright spots from Bucket. Not really a whole lot else to talk about. 

The 2006 era was probably the best we're gonna get post-UYI in terms of vocal quality. 

Vince Neil is a fucking embarrassment lol

The "New" band seemed to be at their best playing in smaller venues. Every show I saw in a smaller concert hall was much better than the larger venues. I guess you got more diehards and less "casual" fans who probably didn't even know Slash was no longer in the band. The crowds at MSG during that era - while large, just seemed pretty disenchanted.

The Crowds at the hammerstein shows were into it. 

The long intros and solos are a bit much, especially with Estranged, November Rain and Coma all on the set. They didn't feel as lengthy before the "new" band started playing Estranged, and before they plugged in Coma on the NITL tour. Now, you essentially have three songs that are almost ten minutes long each. You can't remove NR or Estranged - both are fan favorites, and Coma actually sounds pretty decent. Maybe axing some of the long intros and solo spots would help a bit.

I mainly just hate the fact you can go to a Setlist site and see the set, and pretty much be able to predict what you're gonna hear. 

I guess that's the case with most bands nowadays though. Product of technology 

I think Out Ta Get Me should be a staple. It's one of the most "Axl" songs in the entire GNR catalog. 

Black Hole has run it's course. Never really dug Wichita much. 

This I Love is one of the weaker Chinese tracks and brings the show to a screeching halt. Feels like you've been sucked into Phantom of the Opera or some shit...

I think there are stronger representations of Chinese Democracy as a whole. I may be in the minority, but I dig "IRS"

33 minutes ago, T-Minus said:

Absolutely.  The worst part of this current lineup, aside from the fact that AXL seemingly cannot be bothered to actually put effort in is the fact they often appear bored.  It's the least energy I've ever seen Slash play with at times.  It's all going through the motions, every show is exactly the same and the only thing Axl seems to care about is which stupid hat he will wear for which song.

Back in NewGuns he still had that edge of danger, as did Scott in VR.  All of the shows were unique, and had a certain air of surprise...

If 2006/7 Axl had covered Slither, I would have loved it.  This version is barely listenable.  It's akin to having a dog that no longer can walk properly and that awful feeling in the pit of your stomach because you know it's not going to improve.

I agree with the effort - or lack thereof. In 2006, Axl was spitting fire. Looked like he had something to prove, and was proving it. Same with AC/DC - Axl was ferocious out there. Haven't seen him wail with that kind of raw power in a decade. He seemed more interested and challenged by that than the current tour. Understandable to an extent. How many times can you sing the same fucking songs, year after year before you tire of them? They always have the option of opening up the catalog a bit, and even exploring a few more VR songs as opposed to the same stale set they've been crapping out for a few years now.

I saw a few of the early NITL tour shows - FedEx, and Metlife X2, and they were terrific shows. The quality has just kinda flatlined at some point where there is little to no excitement. I'm sure people in attendance enjoy the shows, but nowadays everything is on broadcast. Everyone is an amateur videographer with a smartphone - would be nice to at least mix up the order of the songs a bit. The Easy/Brownstone/Jungle intro has been beaten into the ground. 
 

On 7/7/2018 at 5:40 AM, TheGeneral said:

I actually enjoy Axl's Mickey voice on the chorus. There are just songs where Mickey does fit (like Catcher in the Rye) and I think Slither is one of them. I think it sounds very 'harmonic' the way he sings it. No, I'm not joking.

There's only one place Mickey fits, and it's fucking Disney World. Until GNR start performing at Disney, Mickey has no place at the shows. 

It's a cheat/falsetto because he can't hit the highs with power anymore. Understandable, given his age... but it's a rather comical voice that makes aggressive songs sound laughable.

I've heard every song sans-Mickey, and believe me - Mickey is never an improvement.

Never been a Scott fan, even in STP. Axl's been getting better on Slither, but the falsetto part in the chorus is bad. 

He was also notoriously late back then. You had no idea if, or when he was showing up. Some shows he didn't go on stage until 11:00PM-ish. That is absolutely reprehensible. Especially with curfews in effect.