Kapitch_77

It's not an obligation to evolve after each album. That's what some people think here it seems. Look at the Rolling Stones, Beggars Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street... 4 albums in a row that sound pretty much the same. The thing is the songs were good and it's considered their best material. GNR, the first 4 albums were good and they could've record an album (or 2, or 3) that sounded exactly like UYI, or even go "backward" and more raw, it doesn't matter when the songs are good. Axl had in mind that they had to evolve which is just bullshit.

CD is the St-Anger of gnr. Hope they learned and they make their Death Magnetic for the next album.

And you thought CD had mixing issues?

What I meant was that St-Anger was different than what Mettalica used to be. Lars decided to modified his drums sound, no solo, the songs weren't even that good. Some people liked St-Anger but Metallica couldn't continue that path, and they didn't: they returned to their roots. That was the best thing they could do. Some people like CD but it's not the path they should take, they should go back to their roots: hard rock. I say "they" but I should say "Axl"...

CD is the St-Anger of gnr. Hope they learned and they make their Death Magnetic for the next album.

Welcome to the you me.

Rolling Stones songs are like Pink Floyd songs, or Metallica, or Hendrix... you just can't make it better. Good cover though.

If they can use the Toronto Maple Leafs to advertise a Montreal show they can post a fake interview (maybe they just don't know that it's fake).

Assuming it's real, I don't agree with his opinion about the hall of fame. When a sport team go to the finals and win, it's the team of that year who get the trophy and it doesn't matter if Joe Blow was on the team the year before for 5 months, or John Smith the year after. Guns were inducted because of the first 4 albums and who played on them (Steven, Izzy, Duff, Dizzy, Matt, Slash and Axl).

Of course not. At some point Axl went from being cool crazy to crazy crazy. The only real debate is when that point was.

I'm not sure why he would think CD works for GNR record... remove the vocals and it doesn't sound like a GNR album at all. Even with the vocals it doesn't quite sound right...

The book is a must have for all fans, with or without Axl's approval. Buy it it's a great book.

Is it a real song? A bit repetitive no..?

Here's a excerpt of an interview from Axl in 2000:

Ok. Thanks Jarmo for your input. You can go back to your forum now.

Robin is the guy who wrote the intro of Better?..

Yeah, I'll take Slash.

Yes, cause the intro of the song is what defines Robin's ability as a songwriter and not the rest of Better.

I don't like the song as a whole... and is "Better" better than Welcome to the jungle? Better than Civil War? Better than Coma? Better than.....

I like the intro and the song, but when did I say Better was better then all of those songs?

The question this thread presented was who to bring back now was it not? Are you telling me Slash's output post Guns was as good as WTTJ, Civil War, and Coma?

Are you trolling me or something? I can't tell.

I was asking a question, but I don't understand yours. No that's not what I'm saying. You trolling?

But if you ask me, I think Starlight, Nothing to say, Ghost, Anastasia, just to name a few, are still better (to my ears) than anything Robin ever wrote.

Why did you asked me that question though? Why would it be relevant if Better is better then WTTJ, Civil War, or Coma, if you didn't insinuate Slash will write songs on that caliber if he returned to Guns?

Only now you compare songs from Slash's post Guns career which is much more logical (unlike your tendency to judge songwriters by the intro of one song they wrote, which is just really an excuse to discredit them cause you don't like their music in the first place so why not just say that?)

Btw, to my ears, Slash's post Guns material don't even come close to Better in quality, but that's a matter of taste so whatever.

Ok, it's all about taste. It's just my opinion but to prefer Robin over Slash is kind of ridiculous. to me... 99% of people on this forum are here because AFD, Lies and both UYI were so great, so I don't understand why would anyone would bring back Robin instead of Slash.

Was it worth a broken relationship, several words come to mind like betrayal, and a broken trust loyalty issue. And yes I've dread all the stories and considered all angles.

You should read this topic, it dives into this and Marc gives some very interesting answers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/190015-marcdid-you-feel-betrayed-as-well/

All in all based on the info that we have and only that, I am 100 percent on Marc's side on this one. He was not in the wrong to release the book in the slightest

Read it all before, Guess we are in opposite corners.

Poor, poor Axl. Everybody is out to screw him

biased much?

Marc is not Axl's servant. He worked from day one with and for the band, he worked for his book which contain his work. Nobody should tell him what to do with his work.

Apparently something went awry in Dreamland or they would still be at least on speaking terms. Just stating the obvious.

Maybe you miss the obvious. Axl is a control freak and he didn't like that Marc didn't listen to him.

Anyway, neither one of them is willing to put up with Axl... the question is futile.

Was it worth a broken relationship, several words come to mind like betrayal, and a broken trust loyalty issue. And yes I've dread all the stories and considered all angles.

You should read this topic, it dives into this and Marc gives some very interesting answers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/190015-marcdid-you-feel-betrayed-as-well/

All in all based on the info that we have and only that, I am 100 percent on Marc's side on this one. He was not in the wrong to release the book in the slightest

Read it all before, Guess we are in opposite corners.

Poor, poor Axl. Everybody is out to screw him

biased much?

Marc is not Axl's servant. He worked from day one with and for the band, he worked for his book which contain his work. Nobody should tell him what to do with his work.

Robin is the guy who wrote the intro of Better?..

Yeah, I'll take Slash.

Yes, cause the intro of the song is what defines Robin's ability as a songwriter and not the rest of Better.

I don't like the song as a whole... and is "Better" better than Welcome to the jungle? Better than Civil War? Better than Coma? Better than.....

I like the intro and the song, but when did I say Better was better then all of those songs?

The question this thread presented was who to bring back now was it not? Are you telling me Slash's output post Guns was as good as WTTJ, Civil War, and Coma?

Are you trolling me or something? I can't tell.

I was asking a question, but I don't understand yours. No that's not what I'm saying. You trolling?

But if you ask me, I think Starlight, Nothing to say, Ghost, Anastasia, just to name a few, are still better (to my ears) than anything Robin ever wrote.

Robin is the guy who wrote the intro of Better?..

Yeah, I'll take Slash.

Yes, cause the intro of the song is what defines Robin's ability as a songwriter and not the rest of Better.

I don't like the song as a whole... and is "Better" better than Welcome to the jungle? Better than Civil War? Better than Coma? Better than.....

Bring back Buckethead & Finck & Mantia.

Bring back the freak show.

Robin is the guy who wrote the intro of Better?..

Yeah, I'll take Slash.

If it's fake some people have way too much time on their hands.

Was it worth a broken relationship, several words come to mind like betrayal, and a broken trust loyalty issue. And yes I've dread all the stories and considered all angles.

You should read this topic, it dives into this and Marc gives some very interesting answers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/190015-marcdid-you-feel-betrayed-as-well/

All in all based on the info that we have and only that, I am 100 percent on Marc's side on this one. He was not in the wrong to release the book in the slightest

Read it all before, Guess we are in opposite corners.

Poor, poor Axl. Everybody is out to screw him

True, Axl didn't legally hold up Reckless Road... he just severed a friendship...

Not to be disagreeable, but how should one react when a "friend" capitalizes on a portion of your life to further their own agenda and pad their own pockets? I see it as crossing a line and, the action taken was perfectly understandable.

Marc was there from day one. He believed in the band from the beginning while no one cared about them, took pictures, help the band (his friends) to make posters, the band could go to his restaurant.. he helped in a way, in his way, to make what the band was working to achieve. He was not obliged to do this but he did because he cared. He had the right to publish his book, his work from all the early years!

Exactly which is why i think there is more to it. who else was there from the start? Del, tom and dizzy and they are looked after well. What would make marc different? It gets you thinking. I think marc was given clear direction from axl not to do it. Or axl was mad at him for other reason of which we dont know.

Marc said Axl wanted him to release the book after CD. Marc was working on the book for quite some time and didn't even know when CD was going to be released. Marc is not an ass kisser I suppose, he felt that he could publish his book, his work, when it was ready.

True, Axl didn't legally hold up Reckless Road... he just severed a friendship...

Not to be disagreeable, but how should one react when a "friend" capitalizes on a portion of your life to further their own agenda and pad their own pockets? I see it as crossing a line and, the action taken was perfectly understandable.

Marc was there from day one. He believed in the band from the beginning while no one cared about them, took pictures, help the band (his friends) to make posters, the band could go to his restaurant.. he helped in a way, in his way, to make what the band was working to achieve. He was not obliged to do this but he did because he cared. He had the right to publish his book, his work from all the early years!

If someone next time could ask if he read Slash and Duff's book and if so, what he thought of them, that would be cool.