God of Thunder

I have also been to that show, which started really late for this tour (9:25 and went on for pretty much 3 hours straight,). I think Axl`s said: "Thank you for the gifit of your soul....well it took a while but tonight I got that fucking back". Had absolutely no idea what that was about.

The openers were very mixed...I love Backyard Babies, but apparently the crowd did not so much. Biffy Clyro was not for me. Some of the audience liked them and they had a lot of energy, but my brother and me we were like wtf is that!??

The Guns show itself was great; the show went on for 3 hours and the audience despite not really moving or dancing around much was at least singing along crazy loud during some songs. The stadium was packed, have never seen a GA this full. I guess a few single seats stayed empty, but I`d say it was 99% sold out. The people around me - most of them older - enjoyed the show a lot. I am so fed up with people sitting in front of their PCs complaining about the setlist and how Axl sounds. I honestly believe that 90% of the people who have been to a Guns show on this tour have only positive things to say.

Had seats on the side this time and for that the sound was quite alright. Having seats allowed me to really concentrate on watching this show for once. Axl`s voice was best in the first 5-6 songs and then lost its rasp a bit and got higher. However it is in no way as bad  or Mickey Mouse as people here judge from the videos. In the beginning I thought he was in a kind of pissed off mood, which actually helped his energy. In general the only time he talked to the audience was about this "soul" thing. He got more relaxed during the set however, even waving and smiling to some people. He put his arm around Slash for a moment in Knockin on Heavensdoor which was a great moment. However in general I have the feeling that Axl possibly is more ok with Slash these days as the other way around. During the shows I have seen it was always Axl looking to be close to Slash at some point, while Slash always tried to keep his distance from everybody else. It is just my impression, maybe also has to do with that Slash needs to concentrate more when playing, who knows. 

At one point Axl was joking with Melissa for a while (not audible). During patience Slash would sit on one of the monitors, which looked pretty cool.

All in all this was a great show, still not perfect voice but good enough for a great show. Much more energy than Zurich and an audience that sang along really loud. The venue - despite the death trap walk in and out of the stadium - was also pretty good. 1 minute to restrooms and beerstands from the seats was awesome and made me think about future ticket choices.....

1 hour ago, no1gooner said:

Yeah, wasn't it the main talking point on the 2006 European tours. Even pictures of the oxygen tent appearing in the papers.

Do we know why it's not an issue anymore?

 He now only seems to dissappear when changing clothes or there are really long solo breaks - otherwise if he does not sing he now stands in the back a little goofy like Brian used to do during Angus solo spots. I assume he started doing that actually on the Axl/DC show.

As far as the reviews in the Swiss newspapers go. I do not think they are that bad actually. They always write some bullshit in there to make it look like a real music critic wrote the article, but all in all the reviews were quite alright. Not the best show ever, the band is not 20 anymore, but everybody had a good time and the show picked up a lot of steam as it progressed.

Slash was great at that concert, did not really notice him messing anything up. In general he plays -as the rest of the band does in this tour - in a more professional way; maybe not with all the heart and energy that we would want. But then again we all get older. I do believe he enjoyed himself though, as at some point he was imitating Angus duck walk in a weird way and he stayed out longest on stage to say goodbye to the fans....

3 minutes ago, delfino88 said:

Thanx! And one last question.
Did FOS1 and 2 have different entrance than GA?

I can`t really say that, as in order to get to FOS 1 and 2 you have to pass the seats and part of the GA first (on the sides of FOS area is GA; not the entire front is sealed off, just the middle), so there was no dedicated special entry for FOS if that is what you mean. I assume though, that at least for Zurich only FOS and people sitting in that area were allowed to use the entrances in the front and the rest of the GA had to come in from the back entries. 

9 minutes ago, delfino88 said:

How big are FOS1 and 2? I am expecting the same setup for Munich so I am interested.

FOS 1 is smaller yet more crowded than FOS 2. FOS 1 is propably the first 5-8% of the total GA; FOS 2 maybe 20%.; the area right before the soundcheck. I liked FOS2 because you can stand close to the Sweet Spot of the sound and if you stand in the last third of that area you have enough space to move around to get a good view and you can enjoy the full view of the stage while still seeing in detail what is going on on the stage without needing to focus on the video screens.   

Btw. the areas are not separated in the middle, as I originally thought; as there were different tickets issued for FOS 1 A and B and respectively FOS 2 A and B. It did not matter if you had A or B. But I guess the setup also always changes with the stadium and the local promoter.

13 hours ago, Marie82 said:

That litho is perfect!!!

The tshirt for Zurich has the same motive. It is the best one I have seen so far on this tour...

Whatever she is doing on the new album, I am sure it is pretty rad. We can expect her sound to be dope af. 

Having said that, she seems to be capable of a lot....though I am not sure I would want another album with 200 layers of sound.

I don`t get all the hate for The Who here; I simply do not get why this should be a bad thing for Guns?  Sure that band is not my generation but they have their place in the history of rock and it is pretty safe to assume that Axl must like their music and be influenced by it.  It is a great thing for South America. I`d prefer to see a 2 hour show of the Who than the 2 or 3 of the groups I gonna see in Europe.

I have seen 2 shows this year and AxL/DC last year. All shows started exactly on time: 9pm. I am under the impression that Angus Young had a very positive influence on Axl in that perspective.

For sure she can`t do anything about how that article was written. She seems like a nice person with a good voice who is living her dream; also someone doing her job is needed for the CD songs and possibly any new ones to come. And as opposed to band members such as former band members such as Buckehead or Robin Finck she actually looks rather normal with her blue hair  

I am curious what 50 songs she was mastering in the studio?

that thing is absolutely useless! The Tshirt was damn ugly; the presale code was ok but not really needed and the rest of the content is ridiculous. I faintly remember that nighttrain was automatically charging my creditcard for 2017, but when I log in it says I am no member anymore. Also I have no idea what I get for renewing it...the same Tshirt again? (which needed about 6 months to actually arrive...)

Why would anyone say that his voice is bad? I attended 2 shows this year with people who are definetely no hardcore GnR fans who loved it and were genuinely impressed by Axl`s performance. If it is good enough for them, why should the real fans complain?? makes no sense

Backyard Babies in Copenhagen  How cool is that. The rest is bearable; nothing completely horrible...

@ ChristmasFnatic

I have been forced to see both Biffy Clyro and Tyler Bryant a couple of times. Biffy Clyro is a bit too much pop for my taste, but they seem to have a lot of dedicated fans in Europe (for whatever reason...). Tyler Bryant is decent old school rock n roll, though I find them a bit generic. Would not mind to listen to them in a bar while drinking beer. 

I always liked the album, very complex and different styles, especially songs like TWAT or Better (songs like CD or IRS really not that much for me). It works more of a studio album to listen to at home than at the concerts. Its principal "error" is that the songs not really straight and memorable "hits" that you want to sing along to at a life show.

9 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

Don't think so. Apparently they'll be playing Argentina on september 29 (not confirmed yet). Also Chile but don't know the date.

I am sure they come back to Europe to play some big money festivals in 2018 and some places they will skip this year. As they seem to get along more or less just fine and Axl`s work with AC/DC must have had major implications on his work ethics (otherwise I cannot really explain why the shows now always start on time...) I do not see a reason to stop if they can print money for another season. I`d be happy to see them as many times as possible on this tour.

If they play an AFD surprise show in LA they will for sure include Steven as he is motivated and presumably not very greedy....not sure though if he is fit enough to play the whole album. About Izzy, I don`t know if he even wants to be part of it, especially after his public outburst about the "loot".  As Axl said it: With Izzy you just don`t know....Maybe if they offer him a truckload of cash!? Have no idea what is motivating the guy. If the original 5 play some songs together I am 100% positive though it will be a one off thing.

Thought that was an interesting read. Very funny (and sad at the same time) that he rehearsed for ages and only finally played with Axl right on stage. Never fully understood the hatred for Ashba here; his main mistake seems to be that he is / was not Slash....He actually seems like a genuine nice, positive guy with a weird taste in clothing and a little too much self marketing (can`t really blame him for that though, he gotta make a living.)....

I do believe the explanation for the break is very simple: It is winter in Europe and they toured pretty much of the Southern Hemisphere already ....nobody would attend an open air stadium show in winter

Just checked the complete lineup so far, the second weekend is actually really massive and worth flying there: Aerosmith, Billy Idol, Alice Cooper, Bon Jovi, The Who, Guns, RHCP, The Offspring, Sepultura.....So much good music in one place! 

My Portuguese is a bit rusty and their website is not very foreign friendly...: Anyone knows if this is a "real" festival with camping and one ticket for everything? Or is it just a bunch of shows on 2 weekends where people come in the afternoon and leave again after the show? Also what are ticket prices normally? Obrigado  

Have just seen today that GnR`s offical facebook account confirmed the RiR gig.

I really wonder if that rumoured tour with the Who in South America is actually following. I can`t quite see Guns doing another full SA leg of their tour as they toured all the major areas already; and not sure they can sell Argentina and Chile again?!?....Possibly they can still sell 2 more shows in northern Brazil, then Montevideo, La Paz and maybe Panama. 

I do think though they will return to Europe in 2018, as they left out quite some places (Barcelona, Berlin, Norway, Northern UK, Eastern Europe, Russia, most likely they will play another festival in Germany as Rock am Ring, maybe another one or two in UK / France / Italy). Some more shows in Asia (India) and South Africa would be cool though, hen they truely toured the world. Never got why Asia as the most heavily populated continent always get so few shows (of any rock band).

On 25.2.2017 at 4:48 PM, TheDemocracyRose said:

Thomas Morgan Twitter 

Singapore Changi Exhibition Center is the seen of the biggest theft in the country's history. 50,000 ripped off. Horrible #GunsNRoses

That quote did not refer to the concert itself. Guns were great. The concert itself was the worst organized concert I have ever attended (and I visited a lot of concerts over the years). It started with a mega traffic jam (of course no public transport to the arena); huge lines for everything, a shitty venue layout (it was much too long, so standing in the back was really really far away from the stage). The worst was the stupid non refundable cashless system which was actually an organized robbery. You had to stand in line for about 1 hour to charge  money on an rfid chip on your wristband. Then you needed to stand in line for about 90 minutes (at least) in order to get a drink; the food stands were about 2 hours long. At the drinks stand they had exactly 1(!!!!) person pouring the drinks (very slowly and disorganized) and 2 people organizing the line. Lateron there were about 5 security guys there as people got really angry. I saw about half the show from standing in line for drinks. My friends needed even longer to get some food, which ran out by the time they were in line. When I was finally in line they had run out of nearly all the drinks except rum & coke. Many people did not get anything at all!

So at the end of the show many people had left hundreds of  non refundable dollars on their useless wristbands, were not able to get any drinks or food for hours, missed out on half the concert due to the huge lines and if standing in the back saw practiclly nothing of the stage except two completely out of sync video screens. Finally we were only able to leave the concert because we walked 4km to our private driver who had waited for us in the traffic jam.

So the organizers screwed up in so many ways while ripping off the fans by cashing most likely tens of thousands of dollars that the concert goers were not able to spend. Absolutely horrible experience

I have also been at this show. What an absolute nightmare to get there (and leave from there). People in Dubai are not used to things starting on time, so we only left the city around 6:30pm as we really did not expect it to start before 10pm. Usually concerts here start only when the Super VIPs who are always late arrive, so we were very surprised that Guns started on time (what happened to good ol Axl!??). The promoters were aware that many people were still stuck in the traffic and they have been asked to start the concert later. There are rumours here that Axl was very pissed about standing in that monster traffice jam as well, so he started the show immediately when he arrived (he mentioned on stage they were standing 3,5 hours in the traffic, finally took a shortcut through the desert and got stuck there...."The real Dubai experience"). This was pretty embarassing to the local bigwhigs here 

It was even a much bigger traffic disaster than Singapore (which I also attended and which was the worst organized concert I have ever been to....in European countries people would have torched down that place). In Dubai we needed about 2,5 hours to get to the venue, walking the last 2 km on the highway, crawling through a camel fence and sand dunes and only arrived after the first couple of songs were already played. They should simply not have concerts this size at venues without any public transport. It was a nightmare in Singapore and even worse in Dubai. 

Having said that, I was able to watch the show from the VIP stand and it was the best I have ever been able to watch a concert. Really close to the stage, no heads in front, right in the middle sweet sound spot, clean restrooms and plenty of drinks and food included in the ticket price (price was about 300USD...just to annoy our US friends with the insane ticket prices there ). It actually looked like in a typical Dubai style they pretty much arranged the whole concert venue around the VIP stand, so those would have the best concert experience possible (the GA was really far to the sides of the stage..). Even in the VIP stand all people were standing and most of them actually rocking out to Guns, even in the sky lounge where usually at least some members of the royal family would stay. The guys next to me have only seen Axl with AC/DC last year and thought he did so great they bought tickets to the Guns show also.

The concert itself was great....Axl got constantly better throughout the night, best part was when he was leaning on Slash`s shoulder for a bit. Also during NR he looks like in his 20s again with the backwards hat! The show got raving reviews in Dubai (and the organizers got heavy flak for the traffic jam and embarassement to Dubai of having their Superstars being stuck in traffic). Vocally for me the best song was This I love....even I do not really get that song as much...

23 minutes ago, Caraibes said:

Dude, where is TEL AVIV?

Frankly, checking the ticketmaster website from Israel is way too much work. You  must not only have to choose a ticket type ahead but also the exact block to be able to see if tickets are available for that specific area. It is absolutely insane how ticketmaster websites are completely different everywhere; and they all suck more or less. This is one of the companies that could go bust as far as I am concerned.

About any partner websites and secondary markets; I did not check out those. I assume it is possible to get tickets for all shows still if you pay higher prices. 

On 5.12.2016 at 0:29 AM, Apollo said:

Hardcore Superstar should be on the next leg. They are the best old fashion hard rock band out there right now. 

 

Thanks for the tip; pretty good band; did not hear of them before. Similar to Backyard Babies. Good music comes from Sweden!

4 minutes ago, tsinindy said:

Wait...London 2 is sold out?  I thought that was struggling and I have friends in Prague that said it was well.  Never really asked them how they came to that conclusion though.

You are right; stupid ticketmaster fooled me there; unlike anywhere else in Europe they do not show you all areas at once in the chart. Standing is sold out; maybe a good 20% of seats are left. Do not think this show is struggling. Prague on the other hand, all areas available. I do not know though how big that field.  All areas on this tour in Europe are really big; 50k to 110k people, maybe Imola is even bigger