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6 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

 

There's a reason they shut up and play whatever Chinese song Axl wants

It’s hard to forget the masterclass in shade where Slash was asked what he thought about CD and he essentially said “Yes, it is nice to hear Axl sing, sounds like music he enjoys making,” which is a great way to say nothing while saying everything.

All TB should ever do with these leaks is say “While we don’t condone these leaks and would have preferred that they be heard in their intended completed form, we appreciate that our fans have a thirst for new material, and we are working hard to provide that for them.” and then not sue the shit out of everyone.

There is no reason for TB’s handling of these leaks other than a poisonous concoction of cruelty and stupity.

It is incredible the lengths this band will go to ensure they continue to make money and make sure no one hears their music.

No one gives a fuck about any of this except for the 1,000 or so nerds who still look at gnr message boards and would still buy, and have been begging to buy, these songs if they were released officially. 

3 minutes ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said:

I really do not understand how this would damage GNR. I wish Fernando understood this. The FANS are the only ones who will listen to them and it will not hurt them in them in the future it will just fuel the fire for GNR. If it where me I would just go buy a cheap ass laptop that worked then go to a free wifi place upload it all then trash the laptop. Then there is no way to trace it back to anyone their would be no hard evidence to prove jack shit!

CD was the biggest evidence of all that the leaks didn’t hurt. All things considered, CD sold really well! For a weird Axl solo album that was a clusterfuck and released about 6 years past any potential relevance, AND for nearly 3/4 of the album having been heard not just through leaks but live performances, it did perfectly fine! Fans were more than willing to buy the official release of something they had leaked demos of, and casual fans don’t give a fuck about at of this.

The best way for TB to prevent any damage from leaking is to release the music that fans have been begging to purchase.

7 minutes ago, Azifwekare said:

It looks like [the guy leaking stuff] removed themselves from [wherever they were spreading the leaks from - I don't wanna get myself banned here], and their posts of the tracklist photos are gone...

Does this mean anything? Is it a good or a bad sign? Are they planning the next move or just gone into hiding?

I imagine he has been teasing it for so long it gave TB time to find him and threaten him.

Just now, Creed said:

CD is still the most expensive album ever made. GnR created top notch music. 

Guess why Bob Ezrin and Co didnt want to release it. Its a concept album. 

I figure the reason no one wanted to release it was everyone stood to make a bunch of money prolonging it except for Jimmy, who was banking on Axl caving and getting the band back together.

Does anyone else sort of like that CD wasn’t this massive success? Like it’s this weird thing that only belongs to you? I mean really, how many of us have people in our real lives who give a shit about any of this? There is just something about following this shit show that stirs something in me that can’t be explained.

Only tangentially related but I’m seeing a lot of Rhiad slander and the “ah my salvation” part is one of the catchiest things Axl has ever written I will die on rhiad hill thanks for coming to my ted talk.

I'm honestly willing to bet the earliest version that had Bucket possible of CD is the best version. No Ron, and 8,000,000 layers prior.

2 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Didnt get any similarity either.

Only similarity I hear is that it is in general a more by the books hard rock leaning pop/power metal track rather than the traditional AC/DC/Pistols on speed early guns and the epic guns of UYI and CD. But that's being quite charitable.

5 minutes ago, Creed said:

Bob Ezrin: 'Axl, we are not ready to mix this record. This record isn’t ready to be mixed. There are two great songs on it and I know that you’re capable of more, that’s the reason why I’m here. You’re such a great talent and I would do you a disservice if I didn’t tell you the truth, which is that most of the songs aren’t great. But I‘m very happy to help you get there and I believe that it’s possible, if you would like to continue to work on the record, to make it better.'

 

I swear to god from the top down everyone was stalling until a reunion not realizing that letting Axl get this out of his system was the quickest way to make it happen.

Honestly I would just settle for Axl over Slash solo material with an odd piano ballad in there with Duff doing that thing where he pulls slash back from doing total dad rock a la velvet revolver/watch this.

Frankly once Slash started soloing on CD songs, they got way better so really if it's just CD II with duff and Slash overdubs it should still be fine.

I'm genuinely curious if the nuguns guys had any clue what CD was going to sound like before it came out.

"I don't remember anybody I hung out with using the N-word, or using the C-word."

Bruh, you were in a band with Steve Jones.

Just now, GnR Chris said:

If you give this reasoning, then you open yourself up to criticism for continuing to play those songs in concert. I, for one, don't want GNR to stop playing "It's So Easy."

I don't necessarily agree. Jay-Z wrote in his book saying that in his current age he couldn't believe some of the lyrics he wrote, particularly Big Pimpin'. He still plays the song.

I have never, ever heard One in a Million defended in the context of the story being told from the POV of a fictional character in all the years of defenses of that song. The defense *may* be plausible if the first time we heard it wasn't 30 years after the song's release. I could be wrong, though, and it had been brought up before.

As for the misogynism in the lyrics, how hard is it to say "yeah, it was tongue in cheek, and even given how different things were back then, we were morons and should have known better nonetheless."

What a load of nonsense coming from perhaps the person with the most sense in the band's history.

For all the poking fun at how weird it is that we are constantly reminded that Duff is a punk rocker, his taste is as punk rock as imaginable. I ended up on a twitter rabbit trail recently where Duff mentioned buying NOFX's book on twitter, and Fat Mike responded saying he loved Duff's book and was a huge fan of the Fartz.

2 hours ago, janrichmond said:

From The Guardian, 

Geparate claims by former members Steven Adler and Chris Pitman over unpaid earnings were both settled, and they were also sued in 2008 by German ambient musician Ulrich Schnauss, after two of his pieces were used on Chinese Democracy. The band denied the claim, saying they had been told the samples had been sourced legitimately.

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Is this news that Pittman sued over unpaid earnings?

Their east coast brewing location is where I live. Their beer overall is great but the guns n Rose is not.

Mike is stoked on it, to be sure.

13 hours ago, Fourteenbeers said:

Weren't they "pop" punk? Meaning two steps away from pop 

Blink 182 is a punk band the same way Coldplay is a rock band.

Blink-182 is pop punk, which is descended from melodic hardcore and skate punk. NOFX was always playing in and out of different punk genres like hardcore, melodic hardcore, and ska punk, but you can comfortably call them a skate punk band. Bands like Green Day and Blink-182  took the most melodic parts of bands like the Descendents, Bad Religion, and NOFX and it turned into pop punk. While blink and green day were socal bands in the 90's scene, they were pretty distinct from NOFX.