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It is upper echelon for Axl lyrically.

More than anything I want the whole El Rey show EP.

I just want to hear the Corey Taylor album, but I do worry it was a collection of, as Scott Weiland described the initial VR demos sent to him, Bad Company gone wrong tracks with a Corey vocal because he wouldn’t ever given the pushback Scott would.

9 hours ago, bUCKETHEAD lAND said:

Here's what I've got:

1999:

1. Catcher In The Rye [Ft. Brian May] -- [Leaked 28-02-2006]
2. I.R.S -- [Leaked 27-05-2006]
3. There Was A Time [A.K.A T.W.A.T] -- [Leaked 27-05-2006]
4. "Checkmate" [A.K.A Jackie Chan] -- [Short clip leaked 27-05-2006]
5. Atlas Shrugged [ft. Brian May] -- [Does not circulate]
6. Sweet Child O' Mine -- [Part of AFD '99]

 

2001:

1. Madagascar -- [Leaked 12-11-2017]
2. The Blues [A.K.A Street of Dreams] -- [Leaked 10-06-2018]
3. There Was A Time -- [Leaked 10-06-2018]

 

2002: 

1. I.R.S -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE]
2. There Was A Time [Instrumental] -- [NO INFO, POSSIBLY FAKE]
3. Boston Radio Promo -- [Promoting their shows]
4. Albany Radio Promo -- [Promoting their shows]
5. 2002 Promo Video -- [Promoting their shows]

 

2002 - VMA Rehearsals

1. 5 Second clip without watermark -- [No info when leaked]
2. 44 Second clip with watermark -- [No info when leaked]

 

2003 - Eddie Trunk

1. I.R.S. [Piazza/Trunk Incident] -- [Leaked 15-02-2006]

 

2006 - Ron Thal Guitar Overlays

1. Going Down -- [Leaked 16-08-2013]
2. Oh My God -- [Short clip leaked 09-02-2013, full song Leaked 07-06-2018]
3. Silkworms -- [Short clip leaked 09-02-2013, full song Leaked 08-06-2018]
4. Atlas Shrugged -- [Does not circulate]

 

2006 - Leaked Demos

1. There Was A Time [Short version] -- [Leaked 17-02-2006]
2. There Was A Time [Long version] -- [Leaked 17-02-2006]
3. Better -- [Leaked 22-02-2006]
4. I.R.S [Instrumental] --- [Leaked 10-03-2006]
5. There Was A Time [Short version instrumental] -- [Leaked 15-03-2006]
6. There Was A Time [Long version instrumental] -- [Leaked 14-03-2006]
7. Better [Instrumental] -- [Leaked 08-03-2006]

 

2007 - Harley Davidson incident

1. Better [Probably the same as  Harley Davidson commercial] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007]
2. Better [Harley Davidson commercial] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007]
3. Better [Harley Davidson commercial audio] -- [Leaked 20-02-2007]
4. Paradise City version
5. Paradise City version -- [AUDIO]

[Same commercial was made using Paradise City instead, both are included]

 

2007 - MSL

1. Madagascar -- [Leaked 29-03-2007]
2. Chinese Democracy -- [Leaked 05-05-2007]
3. The Blues [A.K.A Street of Dreams] -- [Leaked 05-05-2007]
4. I.R.S. -- [Leaked 05-05-2007]
5. There Was A Time -- [Leaked 06-05-2007]
6. Rhiad N' The Bedouins [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate]
7. Prostitute [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate]
8. Atlas Shrugged [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate]
9. Silkworms [Unsure if from same batch] -- [Does not circulate]

 

2008 - Antiquiet

1. Chinese Democracy [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008]
2. I.R.S. [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008]
3. Madagascar [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008]
4. The Blues [A.K.A Street Of Dreams] [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008]
5. There Was A Time [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008]
6. Rhiad And The Bedouins [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #1]
7. Prostitute [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #2]
8. If The World [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 18-06-2008 as New Song #3]
9. Shackler's Revenge [Antiquiet] -- [Leaked 14-08-2008 as Chicken Dinner]

[Unsure if Shackler's Revenge is from the MSL or Antiquiet batch]

 

2008 - Best Buy Promos

1. Chinese Democracy, Scraped
2. MISSING
3. There Was A Time, Chinese Democracy, Scraped
4. Riad N' The Bedouins, Chinese Democracy
5. Chinese Democracy
6. Prostitute, Chinese Democracy
7. There Was A Time, Chinese Democracy, Shackler's Revenge
8. Better, Chinese Democracy
9. Prostitute, Chinese Democracy [#2]
10. Scraped
11. Chinese Democracy [#2]
12. Chinese Democracy, Better
13. Chinese Democracy, Better [#2]
14. Chinese Democracy [#3]
15. Chinese Democracy [#4]
16. Chinese Democracy [#5]

[Excerpts of finished album versions to promote the realease, each clip is around 15 seconds]

 

2008 - Body of Lies

1. If The World 

[ITW plays during the end credits of the 2008 movie "Body of Lies", which was released in october, over a month before Chinese Democracy was released]

 

2008 - Barefoot

1. Better [Ron Thal's Acoustic]

[Outtake from Bumblefoot's 2008 acoustic EP "Barefoot"]

 

2009 / 2010 - Brain Remixes

1. 01 - Shackler's Revenge [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-26-2018, short clip leaked 09-12-2013]
2. 02 - If The World [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-26-2018, short clip leaked 09-12-2013]
3. 03 - Prostitute [Remix] -- [Leaked 07-05-2012 as Blood In The Water]
4. 04 - Better [Remix] -- [Leaked XX-01-2012 as Better Gone]
5. 05 - This I Love [Remix] -- [Leaked 06-10-2018, short clip leaked 09-02-2013]
6. 06 - Unknown Remix -- [Does not circulate]
7. 07 - If The World [Brain & Melissa] -- [Live]
8. 08 - Sorry [Brain & Melissa] -- [Live]

[Brain and Melissa Reese performed at a Houston Rockets halftime show on November 10, 2017, 
performing remixes of "Sorry" and "If the World" from Chinese Democracy,
and a cover of KISS's "Do You Love Me?" from Destroyer.]

 

2009 - Dj Ashba tracks

1. Better [Dj Ashba remix] -- [Leaked 16-08-2013]
2. Ballad Of Death [Guitar solo] -- [Leaked 26-06-2018]
3. Mi Amor [Guitar solo] -- [Leaked 26-06-2018]

 

2009 - Stinson / Ron rehearsals

1. Catcher In The Rye ----------- [Does not circulate]
2. Madagascar ------------------- [Does not circulate]
3. Chinese Democracy ------------ [Leaked 05-12-2018]
4. Scraped ---------------------- [Does not circulate]
5. Welcome To The Jungle -------- [Does not circulate]
6. It's So Easy ----------------- [Does not circulate]
7. Mr. Brownstone --------------- [Does not circulate]
8. There Was A Time ------------- [Does not circulate]
9. Richard Solo ----------------- [Does not circulate]
10. Live And Let Die ------------- [Does not circulate]
11. Sorry ------------------------ [Does not circulate]
12. If The World [False start] --- [Does not circulate]
13. If The World #2--------------- [Does not circulate]
14. Unknown Instrumental Jam ----- [Does not circulate]
15. Prostitute ------------------- [Does not circulate]
16. Rocket Queen ----------------- [Does not circulate]
17. My Michelle ------------------ [Does not circulate]
18. Catcher In The Rye #2 -------- [Does not circulate]
19. Street Of Dreams ------------- [Does not circulate]
20. Knockin' On Heaven's Door ---- [Does not circulate]
21. You Could Be Mine ------------ [Does not circulate]
22. I.R.S ------------------------ [Does not circulate]
23. DJ Ashba Solo ---------------- [Does not circulate]
24. Sweet Child O' Mine ---------- [Does not circulate]
25. Unknown Instrumental Jam #2 -- [Does not circulate]
26. This I Love ------------------ [Does not circulate]
27. This I Love #2 --------------- [Does not circulate]
28. November Rain ---------------- [Does not circulate]
29. Bumblefoot Solo -------------- [Does not circulate]
30. Shackler's Revenge ----------- [Does not circulate]
31. Out Ta Get Me ---------------- [Does not circulate]
32. Nightrain -------------------- [Does not circulate]
33. Better ----------------------- [Does not circulate]
34. Patience --------------------- [Does not circulate]
35. Paradise City ---------------- [Does not circulate]

[Tommy Stinson and Bumblefoot does vocals on Chinese Democracy, unsure if they do vocals on all songs. Most recent leak]

 

2009 - Rock Band 2

1. Chinese Democracy [as DLC]
2. Shackler's Revenge
3. Better [as DLC]
4. Street of Dreams [as DLC]
5. If The World [as DLC]
6. There Was A Time [as DLC]
7. Catcher In The Rye [as DLC]
8. Scraped [as DLC]

[Not all tracks! Most likely different mixes, very noticeable on Better. Vocals, guitar, drums etc are isolated]

 

2010 - Vienna Afterparty

1. "The General" [Phone recording]
2. Silkworms [Does not circulate, plays before "The General"]

 

Still looking to complete some stuff, most of it is finished. Almost all information comes from this.

This is *exactly* what I was looking for. Now to secretly fill in the blanks in my collection.

I’m sure this has been covered, but how much did Izzy actually play on UYI? Outside of the “Izzy” songs and songs written around appetite, I hear Slash alone mostly.

I have been searching and have been unable to find what I'm looking for, which is essentially an organized page detailing which versions of Chinese Democracy Era songs are floating around.

Ex.

I.R.S.

-'99

-Trunk

-'02

-MSL

-Antiquiet

Something like that, showing each version of the songs and where/when they are from. Anyone know of anything like this?

Why in the world did you highlight this part and not his comments on the reunion?

Fuck I’d have fired Goldstein, too.

What I remember from this time was everyone complaining at the time about how bad axl sounded!

Axl could still play arenas in South America, Asia, and Europe, snag some Festival headlining spots in Europe, and play big clubs/small arenas at best in the US. It could go on as a lesser version of the post-cd pre-reunion guns.

But really, that path could begin even with Slash if they don't take advantage of this teeny tiny window to put out a record with a smash rock radio hit to give them a Black Ice or Death Magnetic push into their golden years. They already missed their chance to be the Rolling Stones, but they could whip this into being AC/DC, successfully touring stadiums/arenas until they decide they're done.

I feel like the hate Riad gets is undue. The “salvation” part is as big and catchy as anything Axl has ever written. The other parts I can see being iffy on, but it is the biggest remnant of that super weird 99-02 band/sound. 

It doesn’t meet my standard of “if I want to show someone CD isn’t so bad, would I play this song?” but really only 3 songs do. This record just isn’t for everyone. I enjoy it, I’m the only person I know who does, and I’m fine with it.

It seems the truth is that we never actually heard Chinese Democracy.

Thing is, I do think Guns is playing with house money as far as a new album. It doesn’t even have to be great, just fundamentally not an embarrassment. The media and fans have come around on them, they’ve built up a good deal of good will.

21 pages and counting based on...?

It's definitely one of those releases I never remember liking as much as I do when I put it on, but then I never return to it. It is their best sounding release, and makes me bummed out considering that the hard tracks on UYI could have sounded that way or wondering what a mid 90's gnr album would have been with more modern production.

Yeah, he only looked exceptionally weird in the 2001-2002 range. He more or less looked normal from '06 on, dreads and bad facial hair notwithstanding.

They're a fun band. I believe they even went to the Troubador show in Pigeons of Shit Metal shirts. They cover will probably be good, fun. I look forward to it if it ever makes its way to a digital release.

7 hours ago, Azifwekare said:

Kinda true though tbf

True, I mean grab the average person you see in a guns shirt and ask their feelings on Brian Eno.

It’s the closest approximation of what Axl would sound like on pure Slash solo music.

It is one of the songs most neutered by the production. I still enjoy it, but the thin guitars, weird effects, and this might just be a me thing but Matt Sorum's decision to hit a tom instead of the snare during the verses drives me crazy. The production murdered most of UYI.

1 hour ago, History2010 said:

 

He said that he had scheduled gigs that he couldn't cancel 

Yeah I mean he made a commitment to be at those open mic nights, how else could they justify those $10 covers?

22 hours ago, killuridols said:

even Stephanie Seymour (didn't Axl say that she would put down his songwriting?).

 

IDK if my spouse handed me a piece of paper with the lyrics for Shotgun Blues on it, I would have a hard time finding something nice to say. "You nailed the spelling!"

Odds for by 2021

No Album of any variety

-150

Album containing mix of finished CD with Sluff added plus a few wholly new compositions

+200

Album of solely finished CD stuff with Sluff

+350

Album of solely new compositions, all CD leftovers are trashed

+1000

I figured Chinese Democracy was his favorite song. Musically it is similar to about five Velvet Revolver songs.