Vincent Vega
-
Posts
11,699 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Store
Events
Posts posted by Vincent Vega
-
-
When he hit the Papparazzi guy back in 2009 for annoying Beta, he exlaimed, "HE HIT OUR MOTHER!". This would imply that Axl views Beta as his mother or as mother figure. In a 2001 interview, Beta sort of confirmed this herself, saying:
Interviewer: Mom?Beta: I always cook and bring meals to the studio. I make cakes, pies and I bind for them before show to wish them good luck. I always light candles for them. It's like, I am "a mother for GN'R".Interviewer: Is it now when he's discovering what is maternal love, right?
Beta: He doesnt have anything against his mother, the only thing he can't understands it is why he didn't receive maternal protection. He sees this protection in my relationship with my children. Now, he understands a mother has to be protective, and he never felt protected.Interviewer: I think you are a leader for him, you organize everything?
Beta: (laughs) That's the exact word to define me, because everybody ask me, "What do you do?!?". I am his personal assistant, I organize his house, I coordinate his personal life.Interviewer: Do you give advice to Axl?Beta: I give him advice when he asks me for it. I know he values my opinion a lot. He never got me wrong. I have to see people from every angle. You have to look a person from 360º and you will always find something good in that person. If he makes any contracts or comminments with the band, that's his own personal decision. He only asks me what I think about what he does. He always wants to know if he must or must not do something. He wants to know if he's being fair. He's very worried about being fair, he doesn't like doing something that is not true or correct. He's always trying to do things right, because he's worried about what people could say about him. That's why I think I influence him a lot, and it worries me at the same time, because I am scared of all that much responsability.Interviewer: Do you believe in past lives?Beta: Yes, Axl and I believe. As a Brazilian, I believe in this. I think it is impossible for two people who never met before, to get along this well. When I opened the door and he was there, I felt as if I knew him from ages ago.Beta: When the band was over, he thought he could have a family, he would be married and would have children. This would be the second part of his life. He would have enough money and would dedicate his time to his family. He dreamed of a family, children, everything he never had. I think that when I entered his life, he began perceiving that someone actually cared about him, someone loved him.
I am a patient person and I trust in him, but he doesnt trust in himself. Im not a psychologist, but he needs someone who listens to what he has to say and I am here for that. When I have to be his friend, I am here as his friend. When I have to be his assistant, then I am his assistant. I dont mix things up. When I am his assistant, I put our friendship aside and I work. He doesnt take advantage of our relationship. I respect him as if he was my boss and then it turns into a work relationship.How do you feel about Axl considering Beta his "mother"? -
Thanks, Beta, for helping kill Old GN'R, for turning GN'R into a Spinal Tap-esque circus, for turning Axl into an emotionally dependent cripple and keeping the hate between Axl and Slash alive! Thanks Beta! You're truly One in a Million!
-
You're gonna look really.stupid after a year when his surveillance based changes win her back. GIGI! DADDY'S COMIN!
I suspect the one that brings him within 100 yards of most of the women he's known in his life to be the exception.
After his last kicming and screaming tantrum, and subsequent returned behavior, I'm convinced there is no boundry he isn't allowed.to.crossI implore the mods not to lock this thread. Seriously let's just give him enough rope this time and be done with it yes?
It really, really, really burns your ass that I'm still here, doesn't it Tappy?
Seriously...the butthurt is oozing from your ass harder than it did from Ted Haggard's after that meth and secret gay sex session...Two things you'd know a lot about
. -
Lenny is a thousand times more interesting and intelligent than you will ever be.
Writing ten page long essays about Punk Rock artistic crap and engaging in pseudo-intellectual psychobabble about this and that pop cultural trend is neither interesting nor genuinely intelligent.
He's a stock character. Watch the film High Fidelity and you'll see Lenny.
-
I was relistening to AFD and the UYIs and honestly the three albums sound like they could've come from two different bands, both in terms of the song structures, tones, genres deployed, songwriting, etc.I mean on AFD we have all very very straightforward Aerosmith style Hard Rock meets Hanoi Rocks meets 80s Rock meets Punk. It's a complex brew yet distilled in a very fresh and straight forward way, with minimalist yet emotional soloing. Each song has a short solo that is emotional yet to the point, no epic 2 minute long solos. Each song is really to the point, 1-2-3 and sort of catchy.Flash forward to UYI. Forget for a moment the addition of things like synths--I''m talking general song structures and composition that would've existed even without ANY synth or piano--Can you picture ANY UYI songs, sans YCBM, fitting on AFD? Outside of Axl, it doesn't seem like the same band, in terms of just plain songwriting. The songs are more aggressive, more punky, yet also more bluesy, more Stonesy, more Southern.Really the biggest element added to the mix on the UYIs is the Blues--Where AFD had punk in it, the UYIs had blues. Every song has a long, epic solo in the style of Mick Taylor or Jimmy Page; A lot of the two records harken less to the dirty, sleazy 80s sound, and more to a bluesy, classic rock '70s sound. It also sounds a lot less commercial than AFD. AFD's production is very on point, and the songs are written in a very catchy way; It almost sounds like each song on AFD was written with the idea of it being radio friendly. Whereas the UYIs, most of it is far from that. Songwriting wise, the UYIs are kind of GN'R's "In Utero" in that...even though the production is more "slick", the songs themselves are purposely not as overtly commercial.I'm not knocking either album; They just seem like the product of two different bands.Was the shift on the UYIs in the style of songwriting, song structures, genres etc too rapid and dramatic a departure for what was only the band's (real) second album?I mean imagine if Led Zeppelin had put out their first album, and then Led Zeppelin II came out and was as diverse and epic in score as Physical Graffiti. If Led Zeppelin II sounded like Graffiti. It'd be a dramatic jump in far too short a time.I just feel like we should've had an AFD II in 1989 and a quasi-experimental experimental AFD III (the way LZ III touches on an experimental side) before we jumped into the gigantic changes the UYI brought forth.
-
In terms of radio friendliness and general musical catchiness, is there anything on Lies, UYI 1, UYI 1 or CD that is as catchy as WTTJ, SCOM and PC were?
-
Lenny doesn't shit up the board because he doesn't like a band you like.
He hates everything I stand for, and I hate everything he stands for.
He's a Punk Rocker musical Nazi, elitist, on a terror watch list, who thinks because he's into the art punk scene that puts him on a peg superior to the rest of humanity. I'm a proud, patriotic American who likes Rock N' Roll, and I say fuck the artsy fartsy fucking punk hooray for tolerance scene.
-
stop
Saying anyone is more influential in rock and roll than The Beatles, Elvis or Chuck Berry is a sad mistake.
If Elvis didn't exist, someone else would have been Elvis and hardly anything would be different today.
If "someone else would've been Elvis", why weren't they?
Because....It's not PUNK RAWK ENOUGH.
-
I think people make too much of the clothes end, important as it is, it's mostly like...the corporate establishment end that have latched onto that, probably cuz it's the most marketable aspect. All this stuff i think poisons the spirit of punk somewhat.
IT'S NOT PUNK RAWK ENOUGH.
It's too bad someone didn't take a mighty big stone and smash Sid's and Kurt's mama's with em in the belly.
-
I'm so tired of these Sex Pistols thread.
Fuck off Miser
I'm tired of Lenny existing. We all have things we dislike n our lives.
-
Saying anyone is more influential in rock and roll than The Beatles, Elvis or Chuck Berry is a sad mistake.
YOURE JUST NOT PUNK RAWK ENOUGH.
WE'VE GOT THE CHRIS NOLAN JIZZ
MAKIN' IT REAL IZ
THE SWEET SID VICIOUS SPUNK
SHOW US HOW IT DONE
2013, SUCH GRIT AND GRIME
MUSICAL ELITE PAINTS THE
PSYCHOLOGICAL PORTRAIT
OF OUR SAD OBAMA TIME
-
Who better?
-
Who contributed the most to music, who was really the best of the bunch?
-
BUT people tend to praise how "brilliant" his lyrics are
I've never heard Axl lauded for his lyricism anywhere, ever apart from on this forum.
I'm talking about on this forum.
-
I'm NOT saying he's crap or bad or anything along those lines.....
BUT people tend to praise how "brilliant" his lyrics are, and, with some rare exceptions (Coma, Don't Damn Me, Rocket Queen, etc), I don't see it. The guy's lyrics have no real cleverness; they're sort of overly in your face. Like if you take the lyrics of someone like Lennon or Jagger or even Robert Plant or Dylan, there's a lot of room for double meanings or triple meanings. You can take a set of lyrics by the Stones or Lennon and interpret it a thousand different ways and each way might be the right one, each one would fit in it's own way. With Axl, it's not subtle at all. There are no double meanings. He sort of hits you over the head with what he's trying to say. Take a song like November Rain or Estranged. People talk about their lyrical brilliance but...It seems really just sort of too straight forward.
I mean even someone like Kurt Cobain, who I'm not really a big fan of, I have to give credit. You could interpret what he was saying ten different ways. He was very clever and very sly in what he was trying to say and didn't just straight forward hammer the point home. There's a reason people still discuss the lyrical brilliance of his songs almost twenty years later. There was a cleverness at play. With Axl it was, "THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL."
Like I said, there are some exceptions. Don't Damn Me and The Garden and Coma are all examples of Axl being clever, for example. He can do it at times, but most of the time the lyrics just hammer in a very straightforward, 1-2 no room for interpretation sort of message.
I mean, with Axl, he takes a 10 minute song to say what someone like Mick Jagger could say in a 3 minute song. You get what I'm getting at?
I'm not saying Axl is a crap lyricist or shit, but...I do think that he is (unsurprisingly) over rated on this forum
-
I'm going to agree with Arnold on this, everytime i check this place Miser has yet ANOTHER new thread created, it's annoying
But there is a simple option.
You see "thread author- Vincent Vega"
Don't read the thread?
-
Considering this is the Internet I can't bite you idiot.
So you will continue crying tears of impotent rage every time I post?
-
Fuck you.
Are you going to bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?
-
What are songs you could've seen GN'R (old or new) doing a good job with covering?
Old GN'R:
Oh! Darling - The Beatles (UYI era GN'R)
Street Fighting Man - The Rolling Stones (AFD or UYI era GN'R)
Chevrolet - Foghat (UYI Era GN'R)\
Radar Love - Golden Earring (UYI Era GN'R)
Last Child - Aerosmith (UYI Era GN'R)
Please Mr. Postman - The Marvelletes (UYI Era GN'R)
I (Who Have Nothing) - Ben. E King (UYI era GN'R)
The Rover - Led Zeppelin (UYI era GN'R)
Mother (fully) - Pink Floyd (UYI era GN'R)
Trampled Under Foot - Led Zeppelin (UYI Era GN'R)
Fly By Night - Rush (UYI Era GN'R)
It's So Easy - Willy DeVille (AFD era GN'R)
-
Can we encourage you to finally get laid, stop being such a sensitive little tart about me, stop drinking and smoking weed and just be a more positive human being? Lay off the sauce man.
-
Shoot Miser, make him hang himself.
Even if he says the sky is blue, FUCKING KILL HIM.
-
Of course Disney is still here and will likely be here for a very very long time, probably after all of us are gone. But it's not the same. Does anyone else miss the Disney we grew up with--the company that put out truly magical films with heart like Beauty and The Beast, The Lion King, Cinderella, Fantasia, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin, Hunchback of Notre Dame, The Sword in the Stone, Mickey's Christmas Carol and so many others?
The magical company who touched our hearts and didn't just put out 3D juvenile Pixar crap or gobble up other companies?
Even their games were amazing and had great music:
-
They invested around 14 mil in CD. They managed to recoup that with the Best Buy deal and then some. But Axl put them through a 10 year ride (1998 when CD first began to truly be recorded to 2008) with tons of stress, investment and headaches on both sides. Do you think in releasing CD, the label sort of washed their hands of Axl, and that's a part of why nothing has happened outside of touring in 5 years?
Combine the label not wanting to deal with Axl's perfectionism and demands, along with the fact that the GN'R brand isn't what it was in 1998 or even in 2002, that another record wouldn't really be a good investment on their part, and finally that Axl probably doesn't want to relive the "nightmare" that it was making CD....Maybe on both ends, both parties, Axl and the label, are just sort of "done" with each other?
-
KOHD is, was and always will be a "staple" of any GN'R show--even if the old band reunited. It just seems to be a song that every lineup since at least 1988 has enjoyed doing. It's a part and parcel of the GN'R concert experience. A GN'R show really wouldn't be the same without it, cover or not.
LALD I agree, drop it. If Axl really wants to do another cover, maybe they could try out Sympathy live for the first time, or Jumping Jack Flash or something off TSI in place of LALD. It's an energetic song but...it really has worn out it's welcome. It's also IMO their worst cover.
.
How do you feel about Axl calling Beta his "mother"?
in 2013
Posted