frankwhite

Frank,

I have a suggestion, smoke a good amount of weed, along with a few beers or whatever your drinking pleasure is, put on the headphones and listen to "The Wall".

Now if that doesn't turn you on to Pink Floyd, nothing will.

Just a thought.

y'know, u pretty much just made my point for me there dude

instead of just making offhand comments, why not actually say something to back up ur statement, like i did. cuz otherwise ur talkin shit.

No shit-talkin

Just wanted to be brief

You claim Comfortably Numb sounds like it was written by a 5 year old

Not much else left to say after a statement like that

yeah, and i believe that...listen to the lyrics, its just dumbass pothead posturing that only sounds like it means something when ur high, listen to it, its just plain insulting, they're like run of the mill generic word play thats like...suited to stonedness, doesnt come across as meaning much at all. its not even clever imagery its just so mundane.

Hello.

Is there anybody in there?

Just nod if you can hear me.

Is there anyone home?

ooooh, groovy, tryna tap into my conciousness there? try usin a sledgehammer. i dont mind songs that like...feel like they mean something when ur high but...dont when its done on purpose or done on purpose SOOOO badly that its just...obvious. they're like....stock stoner wordplays designed to feel like they mean somethin after 20 minutes and and some LSD, its just sooo awful.

There is no pain, woah, that ones never been used before has it? fuck me, they're really trying here huh?

A distant ships smoke on the horizon.

You are only coming through in waves

*gasp* ships, waves?!?! ohmigod, are u like, a poet? WOAH DUDE!!

Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin

hm, again, generic, i can show u a MILLION songs where that has been said it a round about way. thats kinda close to "everybodys talkin at me, but i dont hear a word they're sayin, only the echoes of my mind". its just appalling that anyone should not see thru this for the lameity that it is...

"When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse,

Out of the corner of my eye.

I turned to look but it was gone.

I cannot put my finger on it now.

The child is grown, the dream is gone"

this, again, has been rephrased time and time and TIME again in rock n roll, it really has and its makes my teeth itch. lameass "the loss of innocence" riff.

even the title, comfortably numb, its just a fucking drug thing, silly little phrase that doesnt really have a lot of lyrical or poetic merit, its not smart or anything. i would normally mind, its just the fact that this band is like, lauded as some big thing when...c'mon, if thats the best u can do then pfft, y'know? then again, each to his own y'know, u dig it, good for you, im just explaining why i dont.

Sorry they don't meet up to your high intellectual standards and all, but are you for real?

You can take just about any lyrics , post them here and make fun of them, I would think.

its not a high intellectual standard to not wannabe spoonfed the same bland shit over n over. a lot of punks rag on em, sure, but then i'm into like...guns n roses and the beatles and they're like...punk anathema y'know? i dont even mind (in fact i quite like) a lotta music that is just out n out goofy and stupid so its not like this big intelligensia thing, im into GG Allin for godssake, its like...at least they're honest y'know? honest and earnest and thats how i like my music and it just shows (in regards to my analysis of comfortably numb) this horrible complacency and its indicative of why music was in such a fucked up state in the 70s and why punk was even born at all. (although punk became its own kinda complacency later on) but...i think the whole Floyd era was like...the drop off point y'know, where rock n roll stopped n looked at itself and realised that the king didnt have any clothes. i listen to bands where the lyrics sometimes are utterly non-sensical but...there hasta be something to it, a flair, an imagination, somethin different...if Floyds stuff is honestly all like comfortably numb then they just aint my cup of coffee. like, ok, theres a song by the ramones, im sure u've heard it, i dont wanna go down to the basement and the lyrics are like...theres nothin to em, its just "hey daddio, i dont wanna go down to the basement, theres somethin down there, i dont wanna go" and thats it, thats all of em but...theres something to em y'know? its basic, its reductive to basic emotions, the kinda things u feel as a child y'know and im almost positive (although how would i know?) that that shit werent on purpose and thats hardly "intelligent" lyrics in the typical sense of the word, in fact people thought the ramones were fuckin retards. having said all of this shit though, im really just speaking in regards to that one wall album (which i heard once through and thought was terrible) and comfortably numb so my knowledge is very limited and is only as good as the limited expierience i have of floyd, maybe i'll love some of the other shit. i've always thought this and maintain to this day that 99.9% of rock lyrics are piss poor poetry, at best and its the music that matters most (lyrics obviously count for something) and the best kinda lyrics in rock are the ones that are vague and...evoke imagery as opposed to really overtly saying something because then the creativity belongs to the audience. this is why i think kurt cobain wrote such great fuckin lyrics. its a special kinda person that can write music AND decent lyrics and i think they're few and far between and a LOTTA lyrics just on paper come off as fuckin crap and only work when put to music as opposed to somethin say, Sylvia Plath wrote which is just...striking y'know, even just on paper. there are exceptions though so there ya, a little in defence of Floyd too but my opinion stands and i think i have good reason for it and, aside from all of that the only thing anyones really said in defence of Floyd here is "they're good for relaxing". cool but...y'know.

instead of just making offhand comments, why not actually say something to back up ur statement, like i did. cuz otherwise ur talkin shit.

No shit-talkin

Just wanted to be brief

You claim Comfortably Numb sounds like it was written by a 5 year old

Not much else left to say after a statement like that

yeah, and i believe that...listen to the lyrics, its just dumbass pothead posturing that only sounds like it means something when ur high, listen to it, its just plain insulting, they're like run of the mill generic word play thats like...suited to stonedness, doesnt come across as meaning much at all. its not even clever imagery its just so mundane.

Hello.

Is there anybody in there?

Just nod if you can hear me.

Is there anyone home?

ooooh, groovy, tryna tap into my conciousness there? try usin a sledgehammer. i dont mind songs that like...feel like they mean something when ur high but...dont when its done on purpose or done on purpose SOOOO badly that its just...obvious. they're like....stock stoner wordplays designed to feel like they mean somethin after 20 minutes and and some LSD, its just sooo awful.

There is no pain, woah, that ones never been used before has it? fuck me, they're really trying here huh?

A distant ships smoke on the horizon.

You are only coming through in waves

*gasp* ships, waves?!?! ohmigod, are u like, a poet? WOAH DUDE!!

Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin

hm, again, generic, i can show u a MILLION songs where that has been said it a round about way. thats kinda close to "everybodys talkin at me, but i dont hear a word they're sayin, only the echoes of my mind". its just appalling that anyone should not see thru this for the lameity that it is...

"When I was a child I caught a fleeting glimpse,

Out of the corner of my eye.

I turned to look but it was gone.

I cannot put my finger on it now.

The child is grown, the dream is gone"

this, again, has been rephrased time and time and TIME again in rock n roll, it really has and its makes my teeth itch. lameass "the loss of innocence" riff.

even the title, comfortably numb, its just a fucking drug thing, silly little phrase that doesnt really have a lot of lyrical or poetic merit, its not smart or anything. i would normally mind, its just the fact that this band is like, lauded as some big thing when...c'mon, if thats the best u can do then pfft, y'know? then again, each to his own y'know, u dig it, good for you, im just explaining why i dont.

acid makes cowboy bob suicidal - butthole surfers

Pink Floyd must be the most overrated band ever, alongside with Metallica

agreed, agreed, agreed!!!

i've heard a very limited amount. one album where theres a song that keeps goin all in all ur just another brick in the wall and "momma will i be the president" etc and i didnt think much of it. then i heard this song yesterday called comfortably numb and it just felt like the most generic, boring, designed for highs corniest song i've EVER heard. their output from what limited amounts i've heard is just appallingly crap yet people (on here and off) laud them like they're the shit, whats with that, what am i missing?

You had never heard Another Brick In The Wall Pt2 and Confortably Numb before???

the whole wall album i heard a coupla years back but comfortably numb i heard the other day and, now i think of it, i think it's about the worst song i've ever heard.

Wow, you really dislike the song so much? Come on, it can't be the WORST song you ever heard right.

i am being serious yeah. i really dont wanna disrespect anyones taste here but that song is just SOOOOO insulting its unbelievable, lyrically it looks like it coulda been written by a 5 yr old. it sounds like a song designed specifically for people who are high so that they might think emptily groovy mystical thoughts when tweakin, its just utterly phoney or comes across that way for me. and its not even cleverly done like I Am The Walrus where the wordplay is put across well, its just cheap and generic sounding

Comfortably numb is an amazing song. I am now stupider for having read your post.

instead of just making offhand comments, why not actually say something to back up ur statement, like i did. cuz otherwise ur talkin shit.

i've heard a very limited amount. one album where theres a song that keeps goin all in all ur just another brick in the wall and "momma will i be the president" etc and i didnt think much of it. then i heard this song yesterday called comfortably numb and it just felt like the most generic, boring, designed for highs corniest song i've EVER heard. their output from what limited amounts i've heard is just appallingly crap yet people (on here and off) laud them like they're the shit, whats with that, what am i missing?

You had never heard Another Brick In The Wall Pt2 and Confortably Numb before???

the whole wall album i heard a coupla years back but comfortably numb i heard the other day and, now i think of it, i think it's about the worst song i've ever heard.

Wow, you really dislike the song so much? Come on, it can't be the WORST song you ever heard right.

i am being serious yeah. i really dont wanna disrespect anyones taste here but that song is just SOOOOO insulting its unbelievable, lyrically it looks like it coulda been written by a 5 yr old. it sounds like a song designed specifically for people who are high so that they might think emptily groovy mystical thoughts when tweakin, its just utterly phoney or comes across that way for me. and its not even cleverly done like I Am The Walrus where the wordplay is put across well, its just cheap and generic sounding

i've heard a very limited amount. one album where theres a song that keeps goin all in all ur just another brick in the wall and "momma will i be the president" etc and i didnt think much of it. then i heard this song yesterday called comfortably numb and it just felt like the most generic, boring, designed for highs corniest song i've EVER heard. their output from what limited amounts i've heard is just appallingly crap yet people (on here and off) laud them like they're the shit, whats with that, what am i missing?

You had never heard Another Brick In The Wall Pt2 and Confortably Numb before???

the whole wall album i heard a coupla years back but comfortably numb i heard the other day and, now i think of it, i think it's about the worst song i've ever heard.

I can't beleive I missed this before.. I also can't beleive the fuckers that old. Time to retire?

retire my ass, he's got more energy talent and mileage in the tip of his penis than 99% of artists around.

<-- NOTICE.

np. Iggy Pop & the Stooges - Jesus Loves the Stooges

whoops, my bad

i like alpine white on the customs.

c'mon people, ur acting like the sex pistols never released an album!!!

I can't beleive I missed this before.. I also can't beleive the fuckers that old. Time to retire?

retire my ass, he's got more energy talent and mileage in the tip of his penis than 99% of artists around.

111. Nirvana - Nevermind

112. AC/DC - Back In Black

113. Alice Cooper - Love It To Death

114. Turbonegro - Apocalypse Dudes

115. David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

u missed Nevermind The Bollocks

I thought of writing a really long essay-type answer of Floyd's greatness here, but I'll leave it to Ron.

One of my favorite bands of all time, top 3.

The problem with Pink Floyd nowadays is that it isn't that special as it was back then. DSOTM was a revolutionizing album, I mean, it had the first techno song ever. My father says that when it came out, he hadn't heard anything like it before, they're the pioneers of progressive rock, they pretty much wrote the book on it. You can hear the influence in everything nowadays, so if you pop in Wish You Were Here you'll probably find it dull and boring and nowhere near special.

When a band pretty much makes prog rock, one of the cornerstone genres of popmusic, I think that itself should give a band a spot in the greatest bands of all time -list.

see now i dont really see what was percieved as Prog Rock as being all that progressive. just self indulgent and...bloated with no punch/direction. the no wave scene, art-punk was a lot more progressive to my mind than ELP, Pink Floyd etc (from what i've heard). Reggae as a genre was HUGELY progressive, more so than any prog' rock i ever heard.i quite like Kraftwerk and Can but that just mind be Johnny Rotten residue on my part

I've got the same problem with the Velvet Underground

Same here. I've got The Velvet Underground & Nico....and it is such a snore . It's so lame and soft...and I just don't find much of it at all appealing. Just bland and boring.

*gasp* whaaaaaaatttt?????

lame and soft?!?!?! *dies* are we talkin about the same album? tell me, what is soft about waiting for my man? that grinding jangling guitar, the lyrics about being a hurtin junkie? or black angels death song. soft? its fuckin atonal, how is it soft?!?! and there she goes again (y'bettter hit her!) comin out of flower power & the 60s, this atonal cold band were the mirror opposite of soft. venus in furs...u call that soft? its fuckin screeching with bondagey lyrics...like doped poetry. detached and brutal. and heroin, thats noise crescendo...how is this soft? all tommorows parties, its so fucking bleak and hopeless sounding. ur entitled to not like it but soft?!?!! that i do not see.

76. Guns N' Roses - UYI II

77. The Clash - Combat Rock

78. The Strokes - First Impressions of Earth

79. MC5 - Kick out the Jams

80. Rancid - ...And out come the Wolves

KICK OUT THE JAMS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've got the same problem with the Velvet Underground

REALLY? im CRAZY about them! like seriously nuts, i think they're among the best bands ever, definietly a top ten band.

i've heard a very limited amount. one album where theres a song that keeps goin all in all ur just another brick in the wall and "momma will i be the president" etc and i didnt think much of it. then i heard this song yesterday called comfortably numb and it just felt like the most generic, boring, designed for highs corniest song i've EVER heard. their output from what limited amounts i've heard is just appallingly crap yet people (on here and off) laud them like they're the shit, whats with that, what am i missing?

Ah what the hell, 5 more:

31. Crosby Stills Nash & Young - Deja Vu

32. AC/DC - Highway To Hell

33. Simon And Garfunkel - Sound Of Silence

34. Michael Jackson - Thriller

35. Queen - A Night At The Opera

if u get 5 more, so do i

Confusion is Sex - Sonic Youth

Meat Puppets II - The Meat Puppets

Last Sessions - Leadbelly

Englands Newest Hitmakers - rolling stones

MIA - The Germs

raw power - the stooges

nevermind the bollocks - sex pistols

New York Dolls - NY Dolls

Flowers Of Romance - PiL

Cut - The Slits

on ebay they're like 800/900 bucks a pop so maybe the 80 is worth it

Actually figured Iggy was older than that...

Why?!?!

because of his lack of movement onstage and the slow tired way he carries himself and his flabby physique and out of breath vocals obviously!

It's on top of my 'to buy' list

please please PLEEEEEEEEASE buy it, u will love it!!! if u dont, i'll refund ur money, im serious, it is THAT good

...fucking rocks!

Brighten the Corners and Crooked Rain are must-owns!

If you like The Stooges, Dinosaur Jr., Yo La Tengo, Sonic Youth or The Pixies, you'll love this band.

i love all of the bands u mentioned (cept Yo La Tengo, who r they?)

That was funny when it was written, almost 3 years ago.

Well, I still find it funny now to be honest.

and i will for years to come. not least cuz its accurate as i was tryin to explain to this dude in the "Chi Dem will be Axl's Actung Baby" thread.