frankwhite

I'm a big punk fan. As you can tell by the name! Love Rancid best band in the world and I'm not ashamed to say it on a GNR website lol! But all the old school british stuff - The Damned, Sham 69, The Clash. The american stuff.. Misfits, DK, Ramones. Love Stiff Little Fingers. Bands like Toy Dolls and The Vapors, even Jilted John are always good for feel good punk lol. Love Rise Against, Anti-Flag.. All those.. Love the hxc side of punk too. Comeback Kid, Social Distortion, etc. Not particularly pop/punk like Good Charlotte/Green Day/Blink 182 and so on, but they're a laugh if you want a bounse I always find lol.

To put it simply punk is awesome and not dead

Not a huge Pistols fan, think they're pretty over-rated. Good, but not as good as people make out.

Anyone into Crass? If you like punk and haven't heard of them I highly recommend. They're fuckin' sweet.

xDSGx

u better take back that pistols comment or i'ma send u an anthrax christmas card bitch! j/k j/k! i can pretty much agree with everything u said there except the rancid, anti-flag and social distortion points

kinda off topic but, a few quotes regarding the sex pistols.

"The Sex Pistols would be vastly improved by sudden death, they are the antithesis of human kind. I would like to see someone dig a huge hole and bury the lot of them in it"

Bernard Brook Partridge: London Councilor (English TV 1977)

"The Sex Pistols were the worst thing ever to happen to rock n roll"

Sir Cliff Richard: (Vox Magazine Sep 1995)

"All the hype the Sex Pistols had was totally deserved. They deserved everything they got. Johnny Rotten was the one I identified with--he was the sensitive one. Never Mind The Bollocks has the best production of any rock record I have ever heard. It’s totally in-your-face and compressed."

Kurt Cobain: Nirvana (Vox Magazine September 1992)

"The king is gone but he's not forgotten. This is the story of a Johnny Rotten".

From the Neil Young song: 'My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)' (Rust Never Sleeps 1979)

"Their records were quite unacceptable for the average person. They didn't behave, they didn't accept the common rules of decency, so it was important to take out the poison…"

Sir John Read: EMI Chairman (BBC TV, September 2004)

"The Pistols were the boys really. You could put together a ‘best of’ from the Clash’s five albums and it wouldn’t be worth a wank next to Never Mind The Bollocks".

Noel Gallagher: Oasis (Hot Press April 1996)

"I created Punk for this day and age. Do you see Britney walking around wearing ties and singing punk? Hell no. That's what I do. I'm like a Sid Vicious for a new generation."

Avril Lavigne: (Seventeen Magazine, 2002)

"People are like, 'Well, she doesn't know the Sex Pistols.' Why would I know that stuff? Look how young I am. That stuff's old, right?"

Avril Lavigne: (Entertainment Weekly, 2002)

"The first time I saw the Sex Pistols was on a poster in my local record store in 1978. I didn’t know who they were, but they scared me and intrigued me at the same time. They looked raw, brash, dirty and inexplicably cool all at once. It wasn’t until a year later that I heard ‘God Save the Queen’ blasting out of the speakers of my local skatepark, and I got the same feeling. Except instead of being scared, I was energized to skate even harder. I still get the same feeling over 20 years later anytime ‘Never Mind The Bollocks’ is on. What other band could claim that kind of power?"

Tony Hawk: Legendary Skater (June 2003)

"I think they changed the world and I'm very grateful for that. I saw them three times at the very beginning and they were breathtaking, and very necessary; and I feel gratitude."

Morrissey: (NME, February 2006)

"You know, Never Mind the Bollocks is one of the greatest records of the 20th century."

Pete Townshend: The Who (Q magazine, June 1996)

hmmm...

gotta go for the banquet on this one

Mr. Moustache Lyrics

Fill me in on your new vision

Wake me up with indecision

Help me trust your mighty wisdom

Yes I eat cow - I am not proud.

Show me how you question, question

Lead the way to my temptations

Take my hand and keep it clean

Yes I eat cow - I am not proud.

Easy in an easy chair

poop as hard as rock

I don't like you anyway

-- Seal it in a box

Damn You (x2)

Fill me in on your new vision

Wake me up with indecision

Help me trust your mighty wisdom

Yes I eat cow - I am not proud.

Show me how you question, question

Lead the way to my gestation

Take my hand and give it cleaning

Yes I eat cow - I am not proud.

Easy in an easy chair

poop as hard as rock

I don't like you anyway

-- Seal it in a box

(x4)

Damn You

Mexican Seafood - Nirvana

Mexican Seafood Lyrics

Send Nirvana polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone

Ah, the itchy flakes, it is flaiming

To, the gels and creams, it is pertaining

To, a fungus mold cured by injection

Hope it's only Ah, a yeast infection

(well) Only hurts when I, hurts when I pee

(well) Only hurts when I, hurts when I see

Now I vomit cum and diarrhea

On the tile floor, like oatmeal-pizza

Fill my toilet bowl, full of a cloudy puss

I feel the blood, becoming chowdered rust

(well) Only hurts when I, hurts when I pee

(well) Only hurts when I, hurts when I see

Roll into my bed, which does consist of

Lice, bugs and fleas and yellow mucus

Stained, dirt vaseline, toe jam and boogers

Stomach acid worms, that dance in sugared sludge

John Hardy - Leadbelly

John Hardy, he was a desperate little man

Carried two guns every day

Shot a man down by the West Virginia line

They saw John Hardy get away

They saw John Hardy get away

They cornered John Hardy on the Tombstone bridge

He thought that he was free

'Til a deputy sheriff came and grabbed him by the arm

Said "Johnny, come along with me"

"Johnny, come along with me"

John Hardy, he stood inside his cell

Tears running down his eyes

Said "I've seen the death of many a poor boy

Now I'm ready to die

Now I'm ready to die"

Well, I've been to the east and I've been to the west

I've been the whole world round

I've been to the north and I've been to the south

Now I'm going to my hanging ground

I'm going to my hanging ground

MISFITS LYRICS

"Bullet"

President's bullet-ridden body in the street

Ride, Johnny ride

Kennedy's shattered head hits concrete

Ride, Johnny ride

Johnny's wife is floundering

Johnny's wife is scared

Run, Jackie run

Texas is an outrage when your husband is dead

Texas is an outrage when they pick up his head

Texas is the reason that the president's dead

You gotta suck, suck, Jackie suck

President's bullet-ridden body in the street

Ride, Johnny ride

Kennedy's shattered head hits concrete

Ride, Johnny ride

Texas is an outrage when your husband is dead

Texas is an outrage when they pick up his head

Texas is the reason that the president's dead

You gotta suck, suck, Jackie suck

Arise Jackie O, Jonathon of Kennedy

Well, arise and be shot down

The dirt's gonna be your dessert

My cum be your life source

And the only way to get it

Is to suck or fuck

Or be poor and devoid

And masturbate me, masturbate me

Then slurp it from your palm

Like a dry desert soaking up rain

Soaking up sun

Like a dry desert soaking up rain

Soaking up sun

Rebel Girl - Bikini Kill

That girl thinks shes the queen of the neighborhood

Shes got the hottest trike in town

That girl she holds her head up so high

I think I wanna be her bestfriend

Rebel girl, rebel girl

Rebel girl you are the queen of my world

Rebel girl, rebel girl

I think I wanna take you home

I wanna try on your clothes too

When she talks, the revolutions coming

In her hips, theres revolution

When she talks, I hear the revolution

In her kiss, I taste the revolution

Rebel girl...

That girl thinks shes the queen of the neighborhood

I got news for you, she is!

They say shes a slut, but I know

She is my bestfriend

Rebel girl, rebel girl, rebel girl

I really like you, I really love you

I really wanna be your bestfriend

Love you like a sister always

Soul sister, blood sister

Please be my rebel girl

Put It On - Big L

Aiyyo, you betta flee hobbes, or get your head flown three blocks

L keep rappers hearts pumpin like reeboks

And every year I gain clout and my name sprouts

Some brothersd still be large if the crack never came out

I got the wild style, always been a foul child

My guns go poom-poom, and yo guns go pow-pow

Im known to have a hottie open, I keep the shottie smokin

Front and get half the bones in your body broken

And when it comes to gettin nookie Im not a rookie

I got girls that make that chick toni braxton look like whoopie

I run with sturdy clicks Im never hittin dirty chicks

Got thirty-five bodies, buddy dont make it thirty-six

Step to this youre good as gone, word is bond

I leave mics torn when I put it on

[kid capri]

So put it on big l, put it on

Cmon put it onnn, and onnn, and onnn

Cmon put it on big l, put it on

Cmon put it on represent put it on, cmon!

[big l]

Nobody can take nuttin from big l but a loss chief

The last punk who fronted got a mouth full of false teeth

Im known to gas a hottie and blast the shottie

Got more cash than gotti (you dont know? ) you betta ask somebody

Big l is a crazy brother, and Im a lady lover

A smooth kid thatll run up in your baby mother

I push a slick benz, Im known to hit skinz

And get endz and commit sins with sick friends

Cause Im a money getter, also a honey hitter

You think you nice as me? ha ha, youse a funny black person

I flows, so one of my shoes, wouldnt be clever to miss

Im leavin competitors pissed

To tell you the truth, it gets no better than this

Im catchin wreck to the break of dawn

And its on, yo its a must that I put it on

[kid capri]

Yeah, so put it on big l, put it on

Cmon put it on, big fella put it on and on

Put it on big l, put it on represent

Put it on, cmon put it on..

[* unknown patois chatta - best guess *]

Some boys see me gun nozzle and take a we fi joke

Boy you gwan dead before you see me gun smoke

See me gun nozzle and take me fi joke

You gwan dead, from army you provoked

[big l]

I drink moet not becks beer, I stay dressed in slick gear

Peace to my homies in the gangsta lean, I see you when I get there

And its a fact I keep a gat in my arm reach

I charm freaks and bomb geeks from here to palm beach

Im puttin rappers in the wheelchair, big l is the villain

You still fear, cause I be hangin it hard and my shit is for real here

If you battle l you picked the wrong head

I smash mics like cornbread, you cant kill me I was born dead

And Im known to pull steel trigs and kill pigs

I run with ill kids and real nigs who peel wigs

My raps steady slammin, I keep a heavy cannon

Its a new sherriff in town, and it aint reggie hammond

Peace to my peoples, the children of the corn

Cause we put it on, adios, ghost Im gone

[kid capri]

So put it on big l, put it on

Cmon put it on, big fella put it on and on

Big l, you gotta put it on and on

Put it on big l, put it on and on

Word up, knahmsayin?

My man big l, runnin things for the nine-four

And nine-oh-s, you know what I mean?

Its the kid capri, in full flair

And we gon put it on a little somethin like this

Big l, cmon

[big l] [kid capri]

Lord finesse he be puttin it on

My man buckwild he be puttin it on and on

My man fat joe he be puttin it on

Showbiz and a.g. yeah they be puttin it on and on

I cant forget diamond d he be puttin it on

The whole d.i.t.c. yeah they be puttin it on and on

And of course kid capri yeah I be puttin it on

The whole n.y.c. yeah we be puttin it on and on

And Im out *echoes*

Rocky Raccoon - the beatles

Now somewhere in the black mountain hills of Dakota

There lived a young boy named Rocky Raccoon

And one day his woman ran off with another guy

Hit young Rocky in the eye Rocky didn't like that

He said I'm gonna get that boy

So one day he walked into town

Booked himself a room in the local saloon.

Rocky Raccoon checked into his room

Only to find Gideon's bible

Rocky had come equipped with a gun

To shoot off the legs of his rival

His rival it seems had broken his dreams

By stealing the girl of his fancy.

Her name was Magil and she called herself Lil

But everyone knew her as Nancy.

Now she and her man who called himself Dan

Were in the next room at the hoe down

Rocky burst in and grinning a grin

He said Danny boy this is a showdown

But Daniel was hot-he drew first and shot

And Rocky collapsed in the corner.

Now the doctor came in stinking of gin

And proceeded to lie on the table

He said Rocky you met your match

And Rocky said, Doc it's only a scratch

And I'll be better I'll be better doc as soon as I am able.

Now Rocky Raccoon he fell back in his room

Only to find Gideon's bible

A Gideon checked out and he left it no doubt

To help with good Rocky's revival.

john e smokes - butthole surfers

This here a song, is about John W Smoke Junior

It's about bein' in love and lovin' the love that's hatin' the love

the love and the love and the hate that's lovin' with all

It's around the love that's hate that's the hate that's the love

And the love is the love that is the hate that's hatin' the love,

it's lovin' the hate

It's about John W Smoke's mom, it's with his mom

it's about his mom it's about his mom it's about lovin his mom

and bein' without his mom and lovin' the hate that's hatin' the love

and his mom and all the time they're there

Hatin' the hate that's lovin' the hate it's love it's the love that's hate

And it goes somethin' about like this

John E Smoke, oh John E Smoke

John Smoke, oh John E Smoke

Whaoh John E Smoke, John E John E John E John

John, John Smoke

John E Smoke

Here we go

John, John was a little crippled midget lesbian boy

but stood ten foot tall with a knife

Pretty soon the mole had appeared on John's left leg

and real black it extended out 469 different miles

and veirly veirly it was 69 different nuns

speaking simultaneously to John in 69 different languages

And then it evolved itself and it was the legless dog that became

a cycle in John's fater's fore head

And there is was like a twinkie with a haylo storm in it

and it revolved down into the sky and talked to John

like he was a little puppy himself

And John said that I am not the magma, I am not the crust

and I shall evolve when the rain had come down here and was hed on John

And he said that I will be a cigarette butt before it's all done with

And they said no, you are the flame itself and you shall burn pure

in the South American sky where the blooddogs worship the stairway

John E Smoke, oh John E Smoke

oh John Smoke, ooo OW!

John E Smoke, oh John E Smoke

oh oh John E Smoke

oh John E John E John E John E John E John E John E John E John E

John E John E Jooooooooooooooooo

And so brainlessly leglessly hairlessly the foil tip top of itself,

and revealed to John that the QE2 Luxury Liner extended out of John's left side

And so it had preach you in Mars with a saram backwards

and up waralve they did evolve

Downward they fell like a thin sheet of waste plaunt it with would come over John's body

His body was no longer the tribe vehicle express itself

And he could be the dog and the dog's eyes which had blood comin' out like they were

roped around John's leg and pulled him up, like he was a canoe and and he flew

on the life essence itself to South America where he was in love

read the thread, a lotta people believed him.

Does it have to be a band? If not I'd have to say any three rap groups.. I hate them all equally.. just as much as the next one... if it ha sto be aband..

Nickleback

Hinder

Evanessence

Not really in that order, because I would rather peel my face off and tear my ears out and eat them before dying everytime I have to listen to evenessence.. but Nickleback does the same thing... and I just dont like hinder.. this isn't fair asshole, I hate so many and you make me pick three. goddamn you.. you and the man you work for...

dont front oog's, u know ur a closet hip hop head really

Fa shizzle my nizzle, ya know's I gots ta keep's it rea-zzile for my hommie's g-dawg..

7 dizzles a wizzle G, you know whas crackin'

yeah.. I tried dude, i'm pretty white.. you win..lmao...

i wouldnt let it worry you, i dont think anyone that isnt mentally retarded actually talks like that for more than one sentence as a passing joke

she's in a bad mood - sonic youth

phenegan - public image limited

build me up buttercup - the foundations

blowjobs - GG Allin

Rebel Girl - Bikini Kill

Ping Pong Affair - The Slits

million tears - the pastels

John E Smokes - the butthole surfers

Does it have to be a band? If not I'd have to say any three rap groups.. I hate them all equally.. just as much as the next one... if it ha sto be aband..

Nickleback

Hinder

Evanessence

Not really in that order, because I would rather peel my face off and tear my ears out and eat them before dying everytime I have to listen to evenessence.. but Nickleback does the same thing... and I just dont like hinder.. this isn't fair asshole, I hate so many and you make me pick three. goddamn you.. you and the man you work for...

dont front oog's, u know ur a closet hip hop head really

Fa shizzle my nizzle, ya know's I gots ta keep's it rea-zzile for my hommie's g-dawg..

7 dizzles a wizzle G, you know whas crackin'

I don't think Donovan deserves much of my time.

he taught John Lennon how to play finger pickin' guitar style which result in John writing Julia so on that basis alone, he is worth it

I've been getting more into punk, alternative punk, grunge and garage-punk lately. I'm a long time Nirvana-, Ramones- and Turbonegro-fan and recently I've started listening to bands like Stooges, MC5, Buzzcocks, The Clash, Black Flag, Green Day(Dookie era), Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam etc. I'm getting less and less respect from my glam-friends, but I don't really care

SEX PISTOLS ARE SHIT....

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you and FUCK YOU some more! the sex pistols are shit? take a running jump!! you like the buzzcocks and think the sex pistols are shit, i got news for ya, Howard Devoto had to suck Malcolm McLarens cock (not literally) to get a fuckin opening slot on the pistols lesser free trade hall gig and become recognised as a fuckin band, The Clap too, they were the fuckin 101ers before, a long haired pub rock band that no one gave two shits about.

fact: Nevermind The Bollocks is one of the probably oh say roughly 10 most important albums of all time

fact: the sex pistols CHANGED the entire fucking music scene single handedly like no other punk band before em and practically invented this idea of "underground" music and alternative record labels, most definitely so in england

fact: they influenced not only music but through their attitude, energy cinema, art, fashion

find me one other band where someone can write an entire book on one gig they did...and not some huge fucking arena landmark Shea Stadium i can't hear you Mr. Lennon type gig, i'm talkin' bout somethin that about 30 or so people attended, check it out..

there is nothing like the sex pistols, had never been nothin like the sex pistols and probably never will be anything again like the sex pistols they are, in short, perfect. nothin to beat em. mean it man (dork)

I knew I would get an answer like that from you Yeah, they changed the world with their music and attitude, can't deny that. And I know and couldn't care less that I would not be listening to Buzzcocks, Nirvana, Black Flag etc now without Pistols. I just don't like Pistols music. I have the Bollocks album and I have listened through it many times and I really want to dig them cause they look and act so damn cool! But,no.. in my ears they sound crap. can't help it. Don't hit me hard

this is getting stupidly close to looking like im tryna force u to like em but...its just a personal interest thing...whats crap about em, Johnnys voice? i love it, its snotty and in ur face, pauls drumming is just...well, standard, i'll admit that but best drummers are...solid rhythm section y'know? and Steve Joneses guitar is fuckin intense, that wall of sound thing, those layers of guitar tracks that when put together on record sound like a fuckin nuclear explosion. or do u just think the songs are not catchy? they're pretty standard 3 chord fare throughout, verse chorus verse...but hey, u like what u like...just "crap" seemed a harsh indictment.

ok, for example, Janies Got A Gun has some WONDERFUL moments lyrically...its really bleak and theres a foreboding tone to it, its very subtle too in that it lets you know that the guy was fucked up to her but not...any real detail. it gives u little images, very stark notions/images (found him underneath the train, the man was such a sleaze *see thats suggestive yet blunt but not explicit*, and the whole dum dum dum honey what have you done? thing, its...haunting, vaguely) , to piece together and thats like...the best kinda music cuz it makes ur mind work too.

I asked you for an example and I got a good one. Thankyou. I actually do not mind Janie's got a gun. It's actually one of the few Aerosmith songs I enjoy. It seems different than their other songs.

he also has a GREAT talent for taking like...almost cliched things to say, cool things and pieces them together, kinda like kurt cobain said he did with the song Dive and makes these cool songs (hot tramp, daddys little cutey, never see ya leavin by the backdoor man). he has a great grasp on americana and this is reflected really well in his music (Axl has this too at times).

All the songs you mentioned have the same underlying "theme" about them. But obviously as you stated they were an original rock band and made music about having fun and girls. But their never seems to be any difference in their music other than "Dream On" and "Janie's Got a Gun".

his delivery is great, inimitable even, he can deliver a ballad like no one else, has a decent vocal range.

I disagree with this part, especially what I placed in bold...If you consider "dream On" to be a ballad then in my opinion he has one good ballad. they didn't even write "I don't wanna miss a thing", correct?

he's kickin' on the harmonica has a good grasp of the blues which is basically the heart n soul of all american music. he's got this...quality to his delivery that makes the whole thing come across as REALLY protean, kinda the dolemite movies where Dolemite gathers people in the street and does those little raps, its americana, its wonderful! he's got an inimitable stamp to his vocal quality that i could recognise in a 1,000 man choir.

I've never seen these movies. Sorry. Unfortunately I pay attention much more to the lyrics than the delivery, voice, pitch, or musical ability on other instruments. Those are good skills to have, after the lyrics are solid.

and i dunno how the term white trash is at all relevant...whats race got to do with it?!?! its music.

I was out of place to say that. Once again, sorry.

Here's my main problem with Aerosmith's music, I don't necessarily enjoy the sex, drugs, and rocknroll idea. I don't enjoy listening to songs based off of sex, drugs, and rocknroll. I honestly do not enjoy Appetite other than Sweet Child of Mine and Paradise City. Paradise City is of course the exception. Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone, etc. do not appeal to me musically. I have numerous times on this forum stated that in my opinion I think "Welcome to the Jungle" is the most overrated song in the history of music. It just does not appeal to me.

I love Guns N' Roses because of "Patience", "Yesterdays", "Estranged", "November Rain", "Knocking on Heavens Door", "Dead Horse", "Breakdown" and others. The ROlling Stones have many songs that fall into the category of sex, drugs, and rocknroll; but songs like "Angie", "Sympathy for the Devil", and others make me appreciate what they were capable of from my musical taste.

AC/DC is a band that I consider to be overrated. To me, it seems every song has the same hard rock sex and rocknroll mentality. I respect it and I realize that without these bands GNR probably would not exist, but I still consider AC/DC along with Aerosmith to be overrated because they do not appeal to my musical tastes. Maybe I shouldn't judge on my musical taste because of bias. But the fact that Aerosmith and AC/DC rarely stray away from the normal "rocknroll theme", and when they do I do not think very much of the songs, I don't necessarily enjoy the bands.

It's just not my type of music, not my type of lyrics. The music behind the lyrics isn't so great that it can stick out more than the unappealing lyrics. But the lyrics are only unappealing to my taste.

And when I say "hate" I do't hate them because they did something to me. I really don't have a choice. My musical taste almost forces me to hate listening to them on the radio. If we could include four or five bands that we hate, I would have put AC/dc in the list.

I think the main part of where we differ is that I don't really THAT much credit to the lyrics. OK, lemme rephrase that, I think lyrics take a backseat to music. Not just a backseat either, the 6 rows back seat. Think about when ur a kid, a baby (not like goo goo gah gah and droolin, a kid, u know what I mean) and ur like 3 or 4 listenin to music, u don't know what the motherfuckers sayin, it's the sound that makes you move, and THAT is basically what its based on. The basic thing that I think we differ on is that u don't dig that whole sex drugs and rock n roll thing which I think is fucking great, its existentialist, its living for the moment, the way I think life should be. Im not anti-the deep shit but I think the sex drugs n rock n roll bit is just as important. But not as much as the music. That's why its called “listening to music” otherwise motherfuckers woulda stuck to poetry. I've always thought anyway that 99.9% of lyrics in popular music, especially when they try and get deep just come across as really really REALLY 3rd rate poetry (except for certain genres like the blues which was basically by semi-literate people and it was just stark and honest and through that it rendered a kinda poetic quality because it seemed almost to be moulded to the music in a kind of call and response form, like the blues singers talkin to his guitar, playing it almost like percussively which I guess kinda makes sense that whole the blues came from africa and the drum being a communication tool thing but im straying waaaaay off the fuckin point here) when I want poetry I read rimbaud of baudeliere y'know, I don't put on a rock record. That said I dig the doors too, I dig love songs, I dig all kindsa songs. You can have the most musically fucking addictive song and the lyrics will suck dick and I bet'cha you'll find urself walking down the street humming urself thinking, goddamn I wish I could get that fucking shit out of my head and THAT is the power of music, music does that, not lyrics. AC/DC, in terms of the music, is FUCKING addictive to me, they REALLY are...riffs like whole lotta rosie, fuckin forget about it I can take that shit to my grave with me. And a lotta the time also, deep type lyrics can be fuckin preachy and kinda insulting, u know the greatest songs in the world with a message putting something across in a poetic sense aint tellin u shit u don't really already know and its like a rephrased version of the advice your parents gave u, or just plain whining...but im self indulgent like everyone else so I dig that shit too but here, lemme give u an example.

We all come in from the cold

We come down from the wire

An everybody warms themselves

to a different fire

When sometimes we get burned

You'd think sometime we'd learn

The one you love is the one

That should take you higher

You ain't got no one

You better go back out and find um

Just like children hidin' in a closet

Can't tell what's goin' on outside

Sometimes we're so far off the beaten track

We'll get taken for a ride

By a parlor trick or some words of wit

A hidden hand up a sleeve

To think the one you love

could hurt you now

Is a little hard to believe

But everybody darlin' sometimes

Bites the hand that feeds

When I look around

Everybody always brings me down

Well is it them or me

Well I just can't see

But there ain't no peace to found

But if someone really cared

Well they'd take the time to spare

A moment to try and understand

Another one's despair

Remember in this game we call life

That no one said it's fair

Im sure u recognise that now my question is, as rock n roll goes, this bit of this particular song aint riffin on the sex drugs n rock n roll aspect and what do u really gain out of it lyrically I mean tell us something we don't already know motherfucker (axl, not you). To be honest with you, the majority of communication done from guns n roses to me was thru Slash solo's as opposed to any lyrics (im really over-deflating the importance of lyrics here) cuz y'know, words u can't understand, they have a meaning, sure u can interpret different shit from em but to a point they're locked. Music on the other hand, its all urs and it can mean and make u feel a million different things a day, that's the beauty of it and it means something different to everybody everytime and THATS timeless, lyrics on the other hand have a meaning and theres only so many intepretations u can apply till they're exhausted.

Having said all that, the sex drugs and rock n roll thing, if ur gonna REALLY get it u should be living it and just taking it lyrically and listening to all this debauchery on the way to ur 9 to 5 every morning is kinda well limp. I do see ur point. Wow, ramble.

music to me comes first because sound and communicating to sound and not sound that has any kinda fixed explicit meaning either is something primal and...relates to the earliest communications of the human expierience...we werent born with a language we taught ourselves those. sound was the first form of communication and something in our evolution as beings still responds to sound that has no precise meaning in the way words do.

Does it have to be a band? If not I'd have to say any three rap groups.. I hate them all equally.. just as much as the next one... if it ha sto be aband..

Nickleback

Hinder

Evanessence

Not really in that order, because I would rather peel my face off and tear my ears out and eat them before dying everytime I have to listen to evenessence.. but Nickleback does the same thing... and I just dont like hinder.. this isn't fair asshole, I hate so many and you make me pick three. goddamn you.. you and the man you work for...

dont front oog's, u know ur a closet hip hop head really

Aerosmith

Fall Out Boy

Hinder

How can you hate Aerosmith?

I hate Aerosmith because not one time have I heard a song by them and been blown away musically. Then after thinking about the lyrics, I have come to the conclusion that Steven Tyler might just be the most overrated musician ever and should probably never do anything musically again for the rest of his life.

I hate Aerosmith because none of their songs in my opinion are better than average musically and are pathetic lyrically, yet they are considered to be one of th greatest rock bands ever. Steven Tyler alone is an overrated piece of musical crap; Aerosmith as a whole is an overrated piece of musical dog shit.

i cant believe what im reading. i'm goin out and get some air

It's an opinion buddy; learn to respect it.

And for argument's sake, since you probaly disagree with everything in my post, give me an example of some Steven Tyler lyrics that you think are phenominal. Since my taste does not appeal to songs talking about guys who look like girls(which might just be about himself), I will most likely consider whatever lyrics you believe to be phenominal as nothing more than white trash.

i didnt disrespect ur opinion, i jus differed dude. ok, for example, Janies Got A Gun has some WONDERFUL moments lyrically...its really bleak and theres a foreboding tone to it, its very subtle too in that it lets you know that the guy was fucked up to her but not...any real detail. it gives u little images, very stark notions/images (found him underneath the train, the man was such a sleaze *see thats suggestive yet blunt but not explicit*, and the whole dum dum dum honey what have you done? thing, its...haunting, vaguely) , to piece together and thats like...the best kinda music cuz it makes ur mind work too.

rock n roll lyrics, orignally were not like...im just not sure what you expect lyrically? orignal rock n roll, as it began was about cars, girls, and having fun and looking cool and thats what a lotta aerosmiths lyrics are about i mean rock n roll music, johnny be goode, rocket 88, good golly miss molly, long tall sally, dizzy miss lizzie, rock around the clock, 20 flight rock and all these orignal american rock n roll classics, they werent these big deep life changing philosophical musings, they were about fun basically, as are aerosmith.

he also has a GREAT talent for taking like...almost cliched things to say, cool things and pieces them together, kinda like kurt cobain said he did with the song Dive and makes these cool songs (hot tramp, daddys little cutey, never see ya leavin by the backdoor man). he has a great grasp on americana and this is reflected really well in his music (Axl has this too at times). his delivery is great, inimitable even, he can deliver a ballad like no one else, has a decent vocal range. he's kickin' on the harmonica has a good grasp of the blues which is basically the heart n soul of all american music. he's got this...quality to his delivery that makes the whole thing come across as REALLY protean, kinda the dolemite movies where Dolemite gathers people in the street and does those little raps, its americana, its wonderful! he's got an inimitable stamp to his vocal quality that i could recognise in a 1,000 man choir. and i dunno how the term white trash is at all relevant...whats race got to do with it?!?! its music.

and to the guy who says the beatles n stones suck well...if they suck then that means the very foundations of post war western music sucks because without em...a lotta motherfuckers wouldnt be around. i'd go so far as to say the world'd be a very different place without em. n not just musically.

velvet revolver

rolling stones

worthless bands

....fuck you

rolling stones worthless?!?!?! this gets worse. am i hallucinating??? if the rolling stones are worthless that throws rock n roll on its head...i mean i can understand them NOT being to ur taste but worthless?? as in of no value in music, thats just factually incorrect.

I would really love to find out what really happened , but chances are , that will never happen , because nobody was there , and Pam died shortly after Jim. Besides , it would seem nobody believes anything anybody says about the case's invesigation.

Well, she died 3 years later. And has told her story several of times. But I'm pretty sure she's hiding something.

@frankwhite - still, heroin can be white, right?

i guess the picture says so but not in my expierience. im more of a coke person in general but i'd like to try heroin just a coupla times, to see what all the fuss is about. good coke generally has like a yellowey hue.

I heard that trying heroin a couple of times will not be any special experience. Your body needs to be more used to it, and by that time, you'll be addicted and huge trouble. Heroin is one drug I'll never touch. It's like one of the worst things you could ever take.

the reason i said a coupla times is cuz my man (who takes it) says u always puke the first time so you gotta do it a couple to "get" it.

Aerosmith

Fall Out Boy

Hinder

How can you hate Aerosmith?

I hate Aerosmith because not one time have I heard a song by them and been blown away musically. Then after thinking about the lyrics, I have come to the conclusion that Steven Tyler might just be the most overrated musician ever and should probably never do anything musically again for the rest of his life.

I hate Aerosmith because none of their songs in my opinion are better than average musically and are pathetic lyrically, yet they are considered to be one of th greatest rock bands ever. Steven Tyler alone is an overrated piece of musical crap; Aerosmith as a whole is an overrated piece of musical dog shit.

i cant believe what im reading. i'm goin out and get some air

Yeah, Donny would be a pussy. He'd be all talk. But the album is seriously pretty good. They certainly are arrogant.

nothin wrong with a lil' of that

Yeah Towers are pretty cool. Sometimes I question how 'punk' they actually are, and whether they just put it on.

But yeah, pretty damn good album.

i never heard that band. tell ya what i did hear tho, i heard when the cockney rejects wanted to fuck em up and they pussied out.

I would really love to find out what really happened , but chances are , that will never happen , because nobody was there , and Pam died shortly after Jim. Besides , it would seem nobody believes anything anybody says about the case's invesigation.

Well, she died 3 years later. And has told her story several of times. But I'm pretty sure she's hiding something.

@frankwhite - still, heroin can be white, right?

i guess the picture says so but not in my expierience. im more of a coke person in general but i'd like to try heroin just a coupla times, to see what all the fuss is about. good coke generally has like a yellowey hue.

I've been getting more into punk, alternative punk, grunge and garage-punk lately. I'm a long time Nirvana-, Ramones- and Turbonegro-fan and recently I've started listening to bands like Stooges, MC5, Buzzcocks, The Clash, Black Flag, Green Day(Dookie era), Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam etc. I'm getting less and less respect from my glam-friends, but I don't really care

SEX PISTOLS ARE SHIT....

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you and FUCK YOU some more! the sex pistols are shit? take a running jump!! you like the buzzcocks and think the sex pistols are shit, i got news for ya, Howard Devoto had to suck Malcolm McLarens cock (not literally) to get a fuckin opening slot on the pistols lesser free trade hall gig and become recognised as a fuckin band, The Clap too, they were the fuckin 101ers before, a long haired pub rock band that no one gave two shits about.

fact: Nevermind The Bollocks is one of the probably oh say roughly 10 most important albums of all time

fact: the sex pistols CHANGED the entire fucking music scene single handedly like no other punk band before em and practically invented this idea of "underground" music and alternative record labels, most definitely so in england

fact: they influenced not only music but through their attitude, energy cinema, art, fashion

find me one other band where someone can write an entire book on one gig they did...and not some huge fucking arena landmark Shea Stadium i can't hear you Mr. Lennon type gig, i'm talkin' bout somethin that about 30 or so people attended, check it out..

there is nothing like the sex pistols, had never been nothin like the sex pistols and probably never will be anything again like the sex pistols they are, in short, perfect. nothin to beat em. mean it man (dork)

how bout focusing ur energies on the stuff u LIKE instead?

smack is generally brownish...unless u get that tar shit which i hear is heavy as fuck. im hardly joe drug but...thats my expierience of it

Recently I've been listening to much more punk than I ever have. Mostly Ramones and Clash but also some old GreenDay stuff, and I've been planning listening to as much as I can. I got some Sex Pistols but I haven't really started listening to it. I never thought I'd like punk, but damn! There's just something about it.

Holy fuck! This thread is old!

:):)

According to "No one gets out of here alive" (or "Nobody" - I'm terrible sorry I read the danish translated version" - Pamela Courson speaks of Jim in his last days. She says he had shaved off his beard and lost some weight. He was looking better than he did in a long time.

Which would make me believe that the first pic is more likely to be his last than the "Last known picture of Jim Morrison". Personally I believe he died of a drug overdose. He liked cocaine - a drug which can easily look heroin. Pamela liked heroin. If you take as much heroin as you would of cocaine, you'd OD. I guess this is what happened. Though I still find it unlikely that a heavy-drug user like Morrison could make such a mistake. A theory is that Pamela told him it was cocaine. It's a well-known fact that Jim didn't like Pam using heroin and they often argued about it.

heroin dont look like coke..

do i like it? i fuckin LOVE it! punk is it, for me its like the be all and end all, its the reason this fucking world revolves for me. the spirit of invention passion energy and freedom. what punk bands do i like?? jesus, i could go on for years

sex pistols

the damned

the clash

the ramones

sonic youth

dead kennedys

bad brains

black flag

the germs

the slits

the buzzcocks

james chance and the contortions

the dictators

i could REALLY go on for days and days about punk rock and bore your fucking brains out. for me, without it, theres little else and if i had to pinpoint one anything that was the most influential thing in my life in terms of the way i think act and live, it would be punk rock and the spirit of punk rock. i think its the greatest thing in post war western culture that has effected cinema, music, attitudes, fashion...just everything. its a wonderful wonderful gift that i can't POSSIBLY praise enough. punk rock is more than music, its a name given to an attitude that has been around since forever. punk rock is just the fucking shit.