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The soundcheck sounded so slow at first, it has no energy. Franks drumming kills it. He's just keeping the beat. Josh Freese drumming is phenomenal and the piano during the breakdown adds a lot. I hope comes together better live.

AFD was released to no fanfare whatsoever. WTTJ came out on MTV and gathered some attention. It wasn't until the summer of 1988 the band exploded with the release of SCOM. It just seemed to be the right time for Rock N' Roll, Heavy Metal and Glam Rock. The rest is history. One of the best Rock albums ever.

8 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

I have tickets for the second show and I could care less.

I could care less if this lineup ever released a song.

Technically this means you do care (a little)

I still own the cassette single with Civil War as the B-side.

Good song. Instrumentally it's pretty sweet. Lyrically it's juvenile. You it's just a jam song. Steven stops playing near the end and starts again. Steven also continues playing after they've ended. Still it's a fun Jam.

On 12/8/2020 at 12:57 PM, StrangerInThisTown said:

I just looked at the tracklisting again and I'm baffled why they didn't include the SCOM demo? You know the song that broke GNR, the most important one probably? That can't be an oversight and they must have deliberately decided not to include it, yet we get 4 different versions of You're Crazy. Can anyone explain the logic behind that?

I can only assume that demos like that and Mr. Brownstone were not part of the Sound City Sessions but recorded separately. That's my guess.

Ah yes. It was 12 years ago I went to best buy that morning to pick it up and no one else was there (good memories) Tried to find the CD, only to see 1 cardboard stand-up with the CD's. in it. It was a glorious day of mega promotion and lack luster songs. I'll never forget it.

Not bad. It's every bit of UYI Slash. Circa 1991-1992. Something I thought was long gone. Happy it's back.

On 10/14/2020 at 4:51 PM, Coma16 said:

Back to Super Mario 3D All Stars, I've just finished up SM64 yesterday. I got all 6 stars on every Course (didn't try to get the 100 coins stars) and had a lot of fun going through it - the camera really got on my nerves at times but its all good.

Started Sunshine today (first time playing it) and it looks great. Seems very different to typical Mario games, but thats not a bad thing (I loved SM2 when I was a kid). 

Really considering buying this. SM64 was the first game I had on the 64 back in '96. Took me a month to beat and collect everything I wanted. Truly a great game.

I thought the last album was lame with exception of a few cool riffs. Didn't like it and I got it for free.

1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, at first the rumour was that he had quit:

https://www.a-4-d.com/t4141-1990-07-30-metal-hammer-adler-quits-guns

He was going to play with Andy McCoy of Hanoi Rocks.

Sounds correct. I was close! This was all from my memory 30 years ago!

1 hour ago, LunsJail said:

Yes, it came on right before the VMAs in 1990 and it was the first time the public was told Steven was fired. MTV News has stated a month or so before that he had quit the band.

Wow, I'm glad someone else remembers it that way I do. They said he quit. I remember seeing interview with Steven saying he was going to play with someone else like Michael Monroe? Later we find out he was fired.

3 hours ago, Blackstar said:

She confused it with the MTV Famous Last Words interview. Maybe excerpts of that interview were shown before or during an MTV Awards show, but not the one of the same year (1990).

Seems correct. As I recall watching it. It was before the VMA awards.

1 hour ago, DonkeyNuts said:

Yeah, thanks, but we know it's not Steven, we've known since it came out, you don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. You don't need to be a drummer either.

Oh, so you are unaware 30 year old recordings can be manipulated to sound different? It can be, drastically. I am not positive it's Frank either. If you listen to Frank Live. He misses drum fills and plays very different than the 1986 recording too.  Frank is terrible but the 1986 version is spot on with Steven. That's my point.

As a drummer who learned to play drums by listening to Steven Adler. I'm pretty positive it's not Steven. I CAN SAY every drum beat is exactly the same as Steven played it, but the drums itself sound so different, more modern. One other thing I noticed (if I can say this correctly) on SOYL Steven would hit the crash symbol and continue playing the beat. On this new version, after he hits the crash symbol there is a crash/snare combo hit. Lars Ulrich does this a lot, like in Enter Sandman, but Steven has almost never done it. This is what my trained ears hear while listening to this version.

Plus those quick guitar licks by Slash are most definitely added after the fact.

1 hour ago, DTJ80 said:

Estranged absolutely should be seeing as they seem to only be looking at those released as singles.

Estranged is 10 min long. I'm sure the length would be the issue. SOYL is only 3 mins.

8 hours ago, James Bond said:

Also just realized that with the inclusion of SOYL and Frank all but confirming that he played on it, that means we now have a Guns N' Roses Greatest Hits album with Frank Ferrer on it.

Do you have something to back this up? I'd like to read this if you have it.

23 hours ago, soon said:

Thats really sad.

Im not sure what being the victim of an assault has to do with ones sexual orientation though.

It has everything to do with it. Being raped a kid brings life long sexual confusion and pain. Unless you're trying to say he was raped and then chose to be gay/bi? Then I'd say there's something wrong with you.

1 hour ago, soon said:

Thats really sad.

Im not sure what being the victim of an assault has to do with ones sexual orientation though.

It is sad. Most victims at a young age will have some sort of sexual issues in their life. That's pretty much a given.

In Steven's book:

"I was fourteen at the time. Once, I was walking along Santa Monica Blvd. and ran into two clean-cut guys. We started talking, they said they had some bithcin' weed back at their pad. So I went with them. We arrived at this dumpy apartment and another guy was there. Right away I felt uneasy. This guy got up and locked the door behind me. "You want some grass, kid? Well, I want something too...." They slipped up behind me and ran his hand through my hair. I'll spare you the ugly details, but they hurt me pretty badly. They didn't beat me up, they did everything else and it was pretty devastating."

1 hour ago, GNRfanMILO said:

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That's a great deal. Although I saw no free shipping.

8 hours ago, Scream of the Butterfly said:

I have a lot of mixed feelings from time to time about whether I should continue to support GNR in any way. There are other reasons, but their history of abusing women and girls is high on the list. I suppose the way I currently see it is that it's okay for me to be a fan as long as I make it clear that I don't condone any wrongdoings. There is good and bad in people. The good stuff doesn't magically disappear when you become aware of something bad.

But I don't find this approach 100% satisfactory by any means. I don't want to turn my back on the victims by selfishly continuing to enjoy the music as if nothing happened or by forever sitting on the fence because I can't be 100% certain whether someone is telling the truth.

I'd say you are about 30 years to late. They used women since like 1985. In fact you should just assume most rock bands do. What did you think "It's so easy" was about? The band was all sex, drugs and rock n' roll.

Who wasn't playing GN'R in 1991/1992. Biggest band in the world at the time.

This pandemic has had no effect on me. Still working 5 days a week, still shop at Walmart, all bills are paid, never wear a mask or gloves and never caught the virus. My state back open for business. Let's wrap this thing up. Life goes on....

24,000 - 62,000 people died from the flu in America according to the CDC.

2,000 deaths due to Covid-19.

Be more afraid of the flu.