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3 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I cannot imagine on what planet some people think it's fake. To each their own, I guess. 

The quality of the song has absolutely nothing to do with who is or isn't "a band". And you're seriously going to tell me that Anything Goes or Shotgun Blues are better songs than this? Nah. 

I did say UYI had exceptions. That can be considered of them. What's wrong with AG? I like it a lot. AG sucked in it many demo forms but not on AFD. That's like saying who is better Motley Crue or GN'R? It's 2 different bands. I treat them as such. It only seems fair

5 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

You are 1000% accurate. 

This is Axl Rose doing what he does best. No one else could come up with that chorus melody and sing it the way he does. 

This song is better than anything on CD outside of TWAT and Better and I would put it up against anything on UYI or AFD. It's that good.

Usually your criticisms are pretty on point. Except here. Nothing post 1991 will ever beat AFD. As for UYI, sure there are some throw away songs on there, that's fair. I know your love for CD, this song is good, not exceptional. The beginning is weird at best (which doesn't match the rest) Then slowly moves into hard rock. Some really good angry vocals on there too! The drums are way out of Brian's league. Josh clearly is better. Everything from the solo on is fantastic! As an original AFD purist I consider it sacrilegious to compare the 2 bands. It's different beast entirely. Having only 1 original member does not a band make.

The ending is the best part. The rest is okay.

8 hours ago, zombux said:

updated. I've included the pile of AFD mixtapes which surfaced lately (and still are available for sale for ridiculous prices).

the AFD mixtape list is a bit crude, but I'll see if I can streamline it up a bit later. UYI will probably need the same treatment.

Huh? What's this? Details please.

21 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

2 and 3 are not canon anymore, apparently.

They’re pulling a Terminator and doing the whole “2 and 3 never happened” thing.

This is unsubstantiated. Absolutely no details have been revealed yet on this film.

@Blackstar Kudos for your research in the aforementioned thread. I don't have the inclination or the time to do it myself. I'll take your word for it.

36 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, those were the percentages for songwriting credits/publishing rights. But as far as percentage earned on sales, it was 20% each.

I'm not sure where you got that? In Steven's book, Steven reduced himself to 15% of royalties. Which means money based on each item sold and song writing credits. Steven sued GN'R to have his royalties reinstated and won.

https://gnrcentral.com/2018/09/24/25-years-ago-today-guns-n-roses-settles-steven-adler-lawsuit/

11 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

The AFD lineup consisted of five members that they were equal partners (at least legally).

For the most part, yes. Technically it was Axl 25% Slash 20% Duff 20% Izzy 20% Steven 15% as far as song writing credits and percentage earned on sales.

Going to see Adler on Fri Aug. 16th in Kansas city. Should be fun. Seen him about 7 years ago in Dallas. After the show him and the band came out to see everyone. Talked with fans and signed stuff. Even got my pic with him! Hopefully this is what he still does.

14 hours ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said:

After many long arduous years of studying Axl Rose's behaviour,

You might need a new hobby... Try knitting. Might help?

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They do that every so often. Then it shows up again as in stock and discounted even further. 

Fingers crossed! If it drops one hundred more I'm in.

26 minutes ago, Swampfox said:

I wouldn't call them disposable but I don't think everyone should be entitled to healthcare either.  The more handouts are given to people the closer we will be to becoming Socialists.  How many people would push themselves to do well in school or apply themselves at work if everybody had a right to healthcare?  

That's very harsh, especially if you're talking about American citizens. Everybody deserves healthcare. I don't agree with it being free for some and others have to pay (referring  to illegals) of course.

12 minutes ago, downzy said:

Depends who you are.  If you were someone who only bought catastrophic insurance or a "Cadillac plan," you likely paid more with the implementation of Obamacare.

If you were someone who couldn't get insurance or paid sky-high premiums because of pre-existing conditions, you most likely paid less.

I can see that. My issue, as I said in the political thread is I don't like the Government does nothing to lower healthcare costs. It just made sure you bought insurance. The cost is still to high. Who can afford a 2-3-4 thousand dollar deductible? It's letting Hospitals and others continue to charge whatever they want because everyone has insurance.

Obamacare was a Godsend for insurance companies. It made sure EVERYONE bought insurance. It had nothing to do with affordable healthcare, it made sure the insurance company got paid.

7 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

"GNR" version is pushing it right? Is anyone besides Axl and West even on it? Does anyone have Slashs opinion on the song?

No, just Axl, West & a drum track far as I know. I remember Slash saying something like they wouldn't consider the song it because it was something Axl & West did long time ago and it really didn't involve GN'R anyway. As I recall.

51 minutes ago, GnR Chris said:

Face value was never that high for pit tickets during that leg of the tour though. It isn't a sale to price them at face value ($250/275). Ticketmaster/Live Nation sets aside tickets as "platinum" and prices them at what they call "true value." When they don't sell at their supposedly "market rate" pricing, then they revert back to selling them for the same price as the rest of the tickets. It's basically, like, legal scalping, this dynamic pricing nonsense.

You do very well at reiterating the same thing I posted. When a Platinum ticket is all you can buy in the pit section that means you can't even buy one for 250-275. So, Just wait. When no one pays their overblown price they lower it to a more reasonable rate. I get it/ we get it. We're both right.

3 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

What about Wichita?

I chose the show that's closer to me. Don't want to spend that much money for close tickets at both events. I do see the far back section is about 56 bucks now. lol

19 hours ago, GnR Chris said:

Pit tickets were never that expensive. There were always around $250-275 for that leg of the tour. If you saw them for $600, that was either "platinum" ticket prices or the VIP packages.

I clearly posted they went on "sale" at 275 (both sides) and yes they were around 500-600 at first. Then it dropped.

16 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said:

Are you attending the OKC show?

Of course. All ready to go!

Near where I live in 2017 pit tickets for duff's side was 600 and Slash side was not available at all, until 3 weeks before the show. They went on sale and price dropped to $275 or so. So I called Ticketmaster and swapped my seat for a pit ticket. Was pretty awesome! Dave Grohl showed up. Good times.

Great Doc on James' mental instability, but a GN'R doc= Never happen.

Crash Diet is a good song. The main riff is what makes it cool, BUT as with Bring it Back Home, some of the tempo changes are a little off. The pause that goes into the Guitar solo is awkward. Bring it back Home also has several changes that are abrupt and don't fit well, but they are just demos after all.

Whatever Axl was trying to convey through Chinese Democracy was lost on average fans. It's was just an album. I don't even know what the significance is behind the album.

1. Axl  took too long: 15 years is an awful long time to make an audience wait for a new album.

2. Chinese Democracy isn't a masterpiece: Cluttered, unfocused and bloated, Chinese Democracy never lived up to the hype it generated.

3. GN'R isn't GN'R: Instead of the members fans loved; Slash, Duff, Izzy and the drummer (whichever one the fans cared about) were no longer there. Buckethead and Bumblefoot are fine players, but average fans never embraced their diversity.

4. Too much ill will over the years: Back in the day, Axl was notorious for being hours late for concerts. People who've paid hard cash for a show don't like stunts like that, and they didn't forget.

5. The tunes didn't work for radio: On mainstream and classic rock stations where other Guns N' Roses songs receive regular rotation, Chinese Democracy's title track flatlined. Meanwhile, people still call and ask for November Rain, Sweet Child O' Mine, Paradise City.

3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

Salvation is one of the worst films I have ever seen - ever.

Fixed it for you.

Looks like ya'll gave up. I see some saying TB kiboshed the whole thing. What proof is there of this? Curious, 'cause you all are depressing me something fierce.