Rustycage

Ballerinas are associated with raw punk energy? Yeah right.

That's your idea of punk?

Double middle fingers does seem a little 1980's. Were they playing Cherry Pie?

Step 1. Get off the pc

Step 2. Get some fresh air

Why should I? I'm not the angry little forum boy.

Who's angry? Us real fans laughing at your trolling? Yeah we're laughing at you

Who is we?

How was I trolling? I made a comment. It was my opinion.

Throwing on lol smileys doesn't hide that you come across as very angry and very insecure. I am sorry if your feelings are hurt. I didn't intend to do so.

This will cheer you up:

Double middle fingers does seem a little 1980's. Were they playing Cherry Pie?

Step 1. Get off the pc

Step 2. Get some fresh air

Why should I? I'm not the angry little forum boy.

Double middle fingers does seem a little 1980's. Were they playing Cherry Pie?

I'll wait to see the notorious "evidence" that he is doing it for himself before I condemn it.

You can't have it both ways people.

Whats so ironic or stupid when he did it with a mocking intent? Duff has cleaned up his act, yet his band's name is Loaded. Does that make it ironic and stupid?

So the song with no credit had mocking intent, huh? Nope, not buying it.

Duff is a former gunner and has nothing to do with the topic.

Oh now suddenly you dont want to talk about Duff. Figures since you cant answer my point.

He wore the shirt with mocking intent- as I said, he called the guy on the shirt a pop culture CARTOON- a word that stands in for a joke.

The song with no credit was guaranteed to get more attention through the no credit- the idea was to bring attention to a little known part of the Manson history. The fact that you're discussing this right now and the internet search results for the song almost always mention GN'R prove that it certainly worked.

I don't care to answer your point about Duff because it's a crutch around here. When they or you right here can't discuss the main point directly, ya bring out past member examples as if that matters to the original point. Why would it even matter?

Axl didn't need to shine light on Manson. Anyone with the tiniest bit of American history knowledge know about him and the media storm that followed him. Anyone alive at the time knew how much of a circus it was.

When you release a song by him, thank him in it but don't credit him on the album, how is THAT trying to bring attention to it when they even said they didn't want attention brought to it? Are you intentionally trying to be obtuse?

Whats so ironic or stupid when he did it with a mocking intent? Duff has cleaned up his act, yet his band's name is Loaded. Does that make it ironic and stupid?

So the song with no credit had mocking intent, huh? Nope, not buying it.

Duff is a former gunner and has nothing to do with the topic.

My only thoughts about this are the Manson shirt. For a man that tried to claim he wasn't a racist and pointed a finger at Hetfield for being one was walking around with the shirt of a proud racist.

Axl described Charles Manson as a pop culture cartoon, a mocking reference not a praising one. When did he ever say anything remotely seeming like an endorsement of Manson's actions or philosophy?

If wearing a shirt gives us a clue into the deep recesses of his psyche then he must also be a lesbian, Janice Joplin and a skeleton.

And he used the Manson song at the end of the Spaghetti Incident, why?

Because he thought it was interesting that there was a part of Manson that had such little attention drawn to it before.

Historians and psychological experts often seek out obscure facts about socially destructive people to shed light on the phenomenon. I guess they must all be two steps away from launching into a psychopath lifestyle themselves, right?

For one, they didn't credit the song to him was because they DIDN'T want to draw attention to it. So I don't buy that for a second.

Could it be that he was just a walking contradiction?

He talked about the song in an interview when GN'R were one of the, if not the, biggest band in the world plus everybody reviewing the album was guaranteed to comment on the song. That's attention enough. The profits from the song went to victims of violence, not Manson himself.

Was GN'R advocating mass murder of nagging girlfriends with Used to Love Her? See how idiotic things get when you try to read dark agendas into each song choice.

I didn't say he was advocating anything. My point is that it was incredibly ironic and made him look stupid.

Funny shirt.

This made me chuckle a little.

"Source?"

my friend said he saw a picture of axl with a dolphin. i have never seen it myself. has he addressed this in an interview?

He named it Splash

I hear they are pretty easy to control. Speaking on command. Doing flips whenever and however you want them to. I hear you can even use a trainer as the medium to get it to do your tricks.

Sounds like DJ Ashba.

I dunno. Some Dolphins are more submissive than others but none are really a puppet. I wouldn't be offensive enough to say Ashba is a Dolphin. Flipper was original.

"Source?"

my friend said he saw a picture of axl with a dolphin. i have never seen it myself. has he addressed this in an interview?

He named it Splash

I hear they are pretty easy to control. Speaking on command. Doing flips whenever and however you want them to. I hear you can even use a trainer as the medium to get it to do your tricks.

It's name is snowflake.

He will never regret anything that he feels is someone else's fault. Which seems to be everything.

Ouch, what a comeback!

I'll go cry myself to sleep now.

Wait your turn, I am sure Slash is crying in bed right now over your amazing comment.

I'll take him to a titty bar if that makes him feel better.

Take him to the aquarium to play with Dolphins. I hear that is pretty Rock n Roll.

Ouch, what a comeback!

I'll go cry myself to sleep now.

Wait your turn, I am sure Slash is crying in bed right now over your amazing comment.

No. I think he will just write another book of lies about it.

You have proof that they are lies, huh? Oh, are you just repeating the weak comeback that your idol made without evidence to support it?

Do you have an opinion of your own? If so, just what do you have to prove they are lies?

Factual errors:

- Page 1: "I was born on July 23, 1965 in Stoke On Trent, England"

- He was born in Hampstead, England but spent his childhood in Stoke-on-Trent.

- Page 102: "We could have booked a gig locally because, collectively, we all knew the right people, but no, we decided that after three rehearsals, we were ready for a tour."

- The first show the Appetite For Destruction line-up played was on June 6th, 1985 at the Troubadour in Hollywood, CA. The tour up to Seattle happened after that show.

- Page 164: "Del ended up writing treatments for some of our videos, as well as having written the short story that inspired Axl to write "November Rain"."

- Del wrote Without You which inspired the video to November Rain and at least part of Estranged.

- Page 210: "When we got on set, we met JJ Jackson, the host, and he was really cool. "

- J.J. Jackson didn't interview GN'R on Headbanger's Ball in 1987. [Thanks Nevy]

- Page 221, 305: "Within a day, we hooked up with Fred Curry, the drummer for Cinderella, and he was great in a pinch."

- Fred Coury is the drummer's name. [Thanks Nevy]

- Page 259: Tom Mayhue's name misspelled as Tom Mayhew.

- Page 323: "We had three theater dates in L.A., San Francisco, and New York, with various bands opening for us, such as Blind Melon and Faith No More and Raging Slab."

- Raging Slab opened for GN'R at the NYC show, Dumpster opened in San Francisco and L.A. Shannon Hoon (of Blind Melon) sang with the band at the L.A. show.

- Page 323: ".. including two nights at the Inglewood Forum in L.A."

- It was actually four nights.

- Page 335: "After we got out stage show together, backup singers, horn section, and all, and we did a week's worth of rehearsals with every element intact, suddenly we found ourselves in South America, before a crowd of 180,000 at Rock In Rio II, on January 20, 1991."

- The extended lineup played its first show on December 5th, 1991 (the second US leg) in Worcester, MA.

- Page 339: "When he jumped down, it was great, we kept playing that suspenseful riff that starts off "Rocket Queen," and I thought the whole moment was killer. When Axl got back onstage, everything felt triumphant for a second... then he grabbed the mike, said something like, "Because of the bullshit security, we're going home," slammed the mike down, and walked offstage.

The band kept going. We'd gotten good at improvising to fill dead space - drum solos, guitar solos jams - we had a bag of tricks to keep things moving whenever Axl made a sudden exit. We kept jamming, and I went over to the side of the stage.

"Where is he? I asked Doug.

He looked at me with a pained expression. "He's not coming back."

"What do you mean he's not coming back?" I shouted, still playing the riff.

"There is no way he is coming back," Doug said. "There is nothing I can do."

We were about ninety minutes into our set, which was our minimum contractually, but the plan was to play a two-hour ser and the crowd wasn't close to satisfied. They knew there was a lot more left. I would have done anything to get Axl back onstage at that point.

"Ask him again!" I yelled. "Find out if he's really not going to." I should have known by Doug's expression that there was no use.

Once it was final, we had no choice: the band put down our gear, and it was like pulling the plug on the stereo - the song just ended on a question mark. That entire arena sat there expecting something to happen, but instead we walked offstage without a word."

- The following is what happened and it can be seen in the pro-shot bootleg footage from the show. About 1:15 into the song, Axl asks security "Hey, take that! Take that now! Get that guy and take that........ I'll take it Goddamn it!" He jumps into the crowd while the band keeps playing the riff Slash mentioned. Axl returns to the stage at around 1:57 into the song, motions for the band to stop playing and says "Well, thanks to the lame ass security, I'm going home.". Then he throws down his microphone, walks past Slash and walks offstage. Slash proceeds to say something into the microphone. His last line is "We're out of here".

Page 350: "In May of 1992. We announced that we would coheadline a summer tour with Metallica starting July 7"

- The tour started on July 17th, 1992 at the RFK Stadium in Washington, DC.

- Page 363: "I got married to Renee in October 1991."

- 1992

- Page 412: "On the morning of 9/11, we were woken up at 8:15 by David Williams, Michael's house guitar player .... ... I saw that a plane had hit the Twin Towers, and moments later the second one hit while I was actually watching."

- Flight 11 crashed into the north face of the North Tower of the World Trade Center at 8:46:40. Flight 175 crashes into the south face of the South Tower at 9:03:11.

- Page 437: ".... and the Pistols' "Pretty Vacant."

- They played "Bodies" by Sex Pistols at their first show as well as playing it on tour.

- Several pages: Slash's current band mate in VR, Dave Kushner, is referred to as Dave Kirscher in several places in the book.

So inconsistencies with times and dates is your proof of lying? So they didn't tour with Metallica? 9/11 didn't happen? That was pathetic.

Slash is one of the greatest guitarist of all time but surely not THE best. Magazines do this to get attention. Do you think anyone would be talking about this list if Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton were upfront?

Yes because while Jimi's sound was unique and revolutionary, his playing was nothing worthy of best.

Ouch, what a comeback!

I'll go cry myself to sleep now.

Wait your turn, I am sure Slash is crying in bed right now over your amazing comment.

No. I think he will just write another book of lies about it.

You have proof that they are lies, huh? Oh, are you just repeating the weak comeback that your idol made without evidence to support it?

Do you have an opinion of your own? If so, just what do you have to prove they are lies?

Ouch, what a comeback!

I'll go cry myself to sleep now.

Wait your turn, I am sure Slash is crying in bed right now over your amazing comment.

"I'm pretty sure he got voted best guitarist of all time because of 'Apocalyptic Love'."

whoever wrote silkworms should get an oscar

At least thát piece of shit never got released, Apocalyptic Love on the other hand.

Man, you're bad at this.

I'm pretty sure he got voted best guitarist of all time because of 'Apocalyptic Love'.

Nah, probably Sweet Child O Mine, November Rain solo and Estranged guitar work. Probably GNR's most notable guitar solos that he wrote. I am sure if he had wrote the "This I love" solo he would have been bronzed at the RNRHOF, right?

My only thoughts about this are the Manson shirt. For a man that tried to claim he wasn't a racist and pointed a finger at Hetfield for being one was walking around with the shirt of a proud racist.

Axl described Charles Manson as a pop culture cartoon, a mocking reference not a praising one. When did he ever say anything remotely seeming like an endorsement of Manson's actions or philosophy?

If wearing a shirt gives us a clue into the deep recesses of his psyche then he must also be a lesbian, Janice Joplin and a skeleton.

And he used the Manson song at the end of the Spaghetti Incident, why?

Because he thought it was interesting that there was a part of Manson that had such little attention drawn to it before.

Historians and psychological experts often seek out obscure facts about socially destructive people to shed light on the phenomenon. I guess they must all be two steps away from launching into a psychopath lifestyle themselves, right?

For one, they didn't credit the song to him was because they DIDN'T want to draw attention to it. So I don't buy that for a second.

Could it be that he was just a walking contradiction?

Manson never killed anybody.

Under the law, being an accomplice is just as strong as pulling the trigger or stabbing the knife. Under the law, you're wrong. Sorry.

With the other suspected murders of:

James & Lauren Willet

Ronald Hughes (Van Houten's one time attorney)

Marina Habe

Doreen Gaul & James Sharp

Carl Stubbs

Darwin Scott

He is most certainly a mass murderer. To suggest he didn't kill anyone while he was only an accomplice is like saying Bin Laden(9/11 conclusion) didn't kill anyone.

My only thoughts about this are the Manson shirt. For a man that tried to claim he wasn't a racist and pointed a finger at Hetfield for being one was walking around with the shirt of a proud racist.

Axl described Charles Manson as a pop culture cartoon, a mocking reference not a praising one. When did he ever say anything remotely seeming like an endorsement of Manson's actions or philosophy?

If wearing a shirt gives us a clue into the deep recesses of his psyche then he must also be a lesbian, Janice Joplin and a skeleton.

And he used the Manson song at the end of the Spaghetti Incident, why?

Manson ain't a mass murder, he only got done for the one murder.

He's accused of more. They know he was involved in the murder of more than a handful and others he is accused.

My only thoughts about this are the Manson shirt. For a man that tried to claim he wasn't a racist and pointed a finger at Hetfield for being one was walking around with the shirt of a proud racist.

No Satriani? Uhhhhh

Cobain and Hetfield? Really?

Who dat?