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There's no denying that he sounded 10x better on the AC/DC tour than he does right now with GNR. We can debate until we're blue in the face about why that is, but it's really an undeniable fact. 

Seeing a lot of people on Twitter complaining about no Patience. It's ridiculous to me that they waste time with these cover songs while leaving out classic GNR concert staples.

The Seeker has got to go. What a waste of a valuable setlist spot.

Damn, wonder what they have in store for Los Angeles. I would LOVE to see Lenny Kravitz at the Dodgers Stadium show. I'm guessing they have something special planned for LA.

I'm selling two SF tickets, seated together, at face value if anyone here is interested. PM me for details. The seats are in section VR 310. I bought tickets for this show before they announced a Los Angeles show, so now that they've done that, it doesn't make sense for me to travel to SF when I live 15 minutes from Dodger Stadium.

I think they will play at a more normal tempo when Axl is out of the chair. There's no way he'll be able to keep up when he's running around stage.

1 hour ago, SerenityScorp said:

Thts why I hope His leg wil heal soon.... Cause He will add great vibe to the crowd when He doin' some run N' dance

I think that's a big reason why people perceive the crowds to be less than stellar. Crowds at rock shows usually feed off the energy of the lead singer, especially GNR shows where Axl's stage presence and interaction with the crowd is such a trademark. It's hard to replicate that when he's stationary.

So Axl is going balls out on the AC/DC songs and half-assing it for GNR?

The people in that Vine were super far back from the stage. I'm sure those closer are rocking out pretty hard.

How is there not one fucking Periscope?!

So no GNR on the YouTube schedule means no GNR stream tonight? Is that what everyone's gathering?

I don't like this. Axl's voice is going to be dead by the time the summer stadium tour comes around. Full Mickey.

My take on it is if they are going to play other bands cover songs, they might as well play a VR song instead.

I'll be there. Would love to grab a beer with some MyGNR people who will be at the show.

Awesome. My favorite GNR song.

Axl has got some balls to ask Slash and Duff to play on this low-rent November Rain wannabe song.

I'm sorry to any Frank fans here, but he fucking sucks. I never really paid much attention to NuGNR in the years he joined but he plays these songs way too fast. 

So what's the word with The Troubadour? Are people just going to line up early or what? I work right down the street.

1 hour ago, Apollo said:

Apples and oranges. 

What money grab opportunities have they turned down? It's been reported the band is getting three million per show. So they've picked 18 million for six days of work. 

I apologize if I've missed some of the other million dollar opportunities thrown their way. Can you catch me up-to-date? Thanks. 

Also, do you think the Coachella dates are specifically for GnR fans as opposed to the huge pay day?

Do you forsee much lower ticket prices on the rest of the tour (if there is one) since this regrouping isn't about the millions upon millions of dollars the band is making? If the band took 1.5 million per show instead of 3 million, couldn't ticket prices be cut in half to help out GnR fans who can't afford $350 tickets?

You are a pretty solid poster on here. Do you honestly think that money isn't the number one reason for this regrouping?

The original post of the thread claims they turned down the opportunity to work together for a marketing program, which sounds like an obvious opportunity to make additional money, so there's one example. Another thread here that caused hand-wringing was about the lack of any sort of press conference or promotional spots. I know people would like to see the big sponsored press conference (that the band would be paid handsomely for) like Van Halen did where Eddie planted a big wet kiss on DLR, but again that's another example of the band letting this reunion happen organically rather than forcing the issue for money.

I've been one of Axl's harshest critics over the last 10 or so years that I've been on this site, and I know if they did that phony press conference "let's show everyone how much we like each other" deal I would be on here ranting about how fake it looked, along with probably tons of other MyGNR posters. It's a no-win situation in a lot of ways. If you stay in the dark, keep their friendship private and let the music do the talking, it's because they hate each other. If they pimp the hell out of this thing, go on every talk show and get everything sponsored and paid for, it's because they're only out for the money.

Look - the money is what it is. It's what the marketplace says they are worth and I don't expect anyone to take less money than they are worth to do something they excel at. Would you take half your proposed salary to help your co-workers get paid more? I sure as hell wouldn't.

The big money is there now, it was there five years ago and it was there 10 years ago. So why now? I genuinely think it's because they have patched up their differences. If it was solely for the money, this would have happened years ago. To me, the money and personal relationship go together. Axl and Slash aren't going to put their pride aside and get together just for money, but on the other hand they certainly aren't going to make amends, and decide to go on a cheap charity tour. I truly believe they patched up their differences, want to play together again, and want to get paid well to do so. And there's nothing wrong with that.

It's funny how the naysayers claim this whole reunion is just a money grab, but when the band purposely turns down money-grabbing opportunities in favor of remaining silent and going about their work, the narrative becomes "OH THEY HATE EACH OTHER!!"

Which is it?

2 hours ago, Apollo said:

You think a band gets paid millions of dollars to do a press conference?

Sometimes while reading this forum, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. Posters are now praising the band and saying they aren't doing it for the money because they haven't done a press conference or released an official statement......(even though they are getting paid 3-to-7 million dollars per show, rumor is Axl is receiving 50%. The fee for the first 6 shows is a reported $26 million. Axl is making $13 million dollars for six shows. Not about the money at all, lol)

Maybe not MILLIONS. I can't tell you an exact number. But I can tell you that if you get big companies lined up to sponsor it, there's plenty of money to be split between Axl, Slash and Duff for a measly 30-60 minute press event. Have it in a big arena, sell ticket to fans, get a big company to sponsor the backdrop, the table, get Coca Cola cups lined up on the table, get a TV station to pay for the rights to air it. I mean fuck, Kanye West just sold out MSG for a hastily-thrown together fashion show and album listening party that aired exclusively on Jay-Z's TIDAL service, which I'm sure paid a pretty penny for that. A GNR reunion press event, if marketed properly, could be massive.

And to your second point, the amount of money they get paid for shows is really irrelevant to their motivations for doing the tour. I mean, that's the number the marketplace says they are worth. There's no way around that, and can't really be directly correlated to their motivations for getting back together.

Double Talkin' Jive seems like a lock, in my opinion. They're going to need some songs like that where Slash and Duff can just jam for a while and Axl can go back and... do whatever he does.

There's no reason for Izzy and Steven not to be there for the Vegas gigs. If Izzy can travel to London to play with NuGNR, he sure can travel to Vegas for two days. And Steven played in Vegas with his band earlier this year and proved that he can resist the temptations of Sin City. Make it happen!! Nobody wants to see NuGNR feat Slash & Duff, we want to see only the original 5 without the damn keyboards!!

The majority of the casual music listening public just wants to see Axl and Slash on stage together again, regardless of who else is around them, Duff included.