sleeping stone

the new guy here again. i want to know if he could have done this, or if it has been done before considering iowa isn't anywhere as big as milwaukee and minneapolis is probably pretty equal if not a little bigger in size. could he have just postponed the rest of this part of the midwest and taken all those days to rest, do the west coast, and then came back and hit us up? i know he's got nashville coming up too so in terms of traveling it would make some kind of sense being reasonably close. that way he could be rested up for those shows, and have a chance for more ticket sales in these areas if the excuse of poor sales is the reason. for one thing, i do know it would be harder to reschedule at the bradley center, but there is another venue in the area which is a little smaller. i just want to see the damn band. i understand he is sick, as i am sick as well at the moment. but don't leave milwaukee high and dry.

Dude, I feel for you. I know it's hard to be stuck somewhere you never have the chance to see great shows.

I live in the third world, imagine my pain.....there's no chance to see any band here.

thats total bullshit even if he is sick, which he isnt, an ear infection is not a good excuse, what a pansy. new gnr sucks

Right now I want you to tell me how you know he is not sick. Tell me right now what source you have. How do you 'know' that Axl is not sick.

That's right...

You don't.

It's all speculation on your part. You have no source or proof to back up your statement therefore it is complete garbage. Give me a break dude, you don't like this Guns N' Roses. You don't support it and even when circumstances hit this band hard you just throw shit at them. You are biased and close-minded. You form an opinion based on the negative attitude you have towards Axl and his bandmembers. It's almost as if you want shows to be cancelled in order for you to put some more of your ignorant blame upon Axl.

And trust me boy - I ain't no fanatic Axl Rose fan, but I believe in what he is saying. As a matter of fact, give the fuckin' dude some credit as he played a show in Chicago last night knowing he was sick. You have already formed your 'opinions' from the beginning therefore it is all trash. You are one of those people who just want something to be angry about.

It is a vendetta.

My art teacher had the strep throat earlier this week and when he came back to school he told me of how the pain is so great that it feels as if someone's clawing the back of your throat with a tiger's claw. This is one of a singer's worst nightmares. The fact that you blame the man for being sick speaks lowly of your judgement.

To play devil's advocate here, I think everybody -- even Pain_Train_99 -- would agree that if WAR was sick, and played the previous night, that is quite commendable.

However, I also think that the circumstantial evidence -- the very fact that he did play in Chicago, the fact that the cancelled show suffered from low sales, the previous cancellation with similar circumstances -- leads to the conclusion that Axl is not sick (or at least, not sick enough to play if he really wanted to).

Do any of us know it for a fact? Of course not. But do any of us know that he is truly sick, for a fact, either? Most certainly not. What we do know is that Axl and management have lied in the past to get out of situations they didn't want to deal with.

Hey little person!

Here is what I say to you:

Fine, if chicago was sold out and that I was Axl Rose: I would have played it aswell.

If, still if I was Axl Rose, I was told the next days shows aren't full then, knowing that I'm sick, I WOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED THEM EITHER. Why little person? Because I'd want to save me some pain and take advantage of it to recover.

This is bad statement, isn't it? This is frankly unfair, isn't it?

Well, I'd still do it too, you know.

Poor ticket selling is maybe the excuse for cancelling AS he is sick and wants to get better for the remaining shows.

Fine for me although I'd be fucking pissed off if I had bought my ticket!

Have a nice day!

Any problem with somebody answering your posts?

Cos if you do, you better leave

You gave your opinion on others opinion, what's the problem with others giving their opinion on yours?

If he didn't read it well, in my school time, my teachers would say: "it's because you didn't make yourself clear" So Less " " which in my books tend to sum up too much and too easily and start being a forum member as one can be.: educated.

And if I'm wrong, well I'll be wrong, it's no big deal. I have a life!

Enough already - I'm not so sure I follow you - It wasn't the opinion I was responding to - go back and look please maam - The guy called me a moron - I only responded in kind

Thanks for being educated in this answer.

But I stick to it: if you don't want sharp replies, don't use a certain vocabulary or smilies that may lead to insults and lack of educated behaviour.

Hope you make some friends here.

Hey Deuschbag - I didn't say that his illness should'nt cancel the concert

I said the get well wishes and Axl love fest from people is disgusting - yeah get better, play the shows and release the album - what do you want me to do - write the guy a Hallmark card?

People got a right to be a little skeptical, I would think

Give me your address too - I'll write you a nice card for your Strep

"God, there are some real pieces of work around here." - you said it pal

Any problem with somebody answering your posts?

Cos if you do, you better leave

You gave your opinion on others opinion, what's the problem with others giving their opinion on yours?

If he didn't read it well, in my school time, my teachers would say: "it's because you didn't make yourself clear" So Less " " which in my books tend to sum up too much and too easily and start being a forum member as one can be.: educated.

People have the right to be skeptical on whatever the fuck they may want, you're nobody to tell them they're wrong if they want to believe something else.

Same, we didn't try to tell people they were thinking bad but just to be less aggressive in their bitching because a show has been cancelled.

You people seem to lose your life everytime a show gets cancelled. Hell, this is not 2002. Didn't you notice?

And if I'm wrong, well I'll be wrong, it's no big deal. I have a life!

I'm getting sick reading these responses myself

#1) Poor Axl? Feel Better? This isn't a group therapy session - This man is not your friend - Yeah, get better and get well and re-schedule the date so the people who were looking forward to the show, get a chance to see it

# 2) I don't think it's BS, but if they didn't have such strange circumstances surrounding that Portland show,

then this would really be one of those freak occurances that happen to lots of bands on tour

# 3) It's not like the guy hasn't cancelled shows in the past or stopped an entire tour after the Garden gig in 02' - so how the hell do you expect people to NOT be worried - even a little bit

#4 ) Poor Axl? Get Better? Not to sound like an insesitive prick, but the man did not lose a child here - it's a fucking ear infection!!!!!!

Your point 4: Ever heard of Education, being polite?

I did!

Finally something positive!

Get well soon Mr Rose!

Insects get squashed on car windows every day that display more intelligence than you do even when dead.

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Axl was blowing his nose and drinking a lot of fluids at the Cleveland show. He also mentioned that it had been a crappy day. (maybe because he was sick?) So, this story does seem to check out, not that I doubted it anyway.

Whatever the truth is, the bitchers have pushed the button of massive destruction....

Nice try from your side!

Aww I hope Axl's OK...ear infections suck

If he needs rest, he needs rest. He's only human after all, people need to stop making such a big fuss

Great we're starting the reverse the steam!

Bitchers down! bitchers go!

My bad then,

Yours must have been drowned in this flood of insult.

Receive my apology .

flood of insults?

stick around newbie, you think this is bitching..

this is more like venting.

which is warranted if your show just got stiffed

Dude,

I understand these people more than you think. I'd feel bad if it happened to a show I was planning to see but for the most part of them, they didn't say they were going to this show!

That's why I found it harsh.

Sticking around (I don't post a lot as you noticed) is lately turning into something painful at times.

Hope things get better soon...

I couldn't read a single: Get better Axl!

There were a few of those.

Including one from me

And it's pissing me off too how everyone's bitching.

Do people have nothing better to do than join a GNR fan forum and annoy the crap out of everyone? *cough* thats you, Kaneda.

My bad then,

Yours must have been drowned in this flood of insult.

Receive my apology .

Kaneda,

the more I read your threads, or posts I wonder what kind of embryo you were... I came today to the conclusion that God forgot to put a soul in yours. I even think that if he did, if forgot the notion of "concept", you know, this is the notion that allows us to think reasonably.

If you don't correctly possess it then you turn obsessed, you see, a bit mentally disturbed.

It goes on with a lot of problems like: trouble of your own identity, paranoia and the list is long...to psychopath.

I write this right after I read the thread Jack99 closed a while ago.

Call 911 everytime you think of GNR and get out of here please. I'm sure 911 has online psychiatrists.

Cheers and get better soon.

Note: don't reply this was humour in the other thread, it was plain pathetic.

Hello you all!

I took the time to read all the pages and my conclusion is this one: What kind of fan/people are you?

I couldn't read a single: Get better Axl!

So, everything is a lie, everything is this that, hell!

You people are so damn low that you don't even give him the benefit of the doubt?

None of you wishing him well, just bitching. Woah! What are you owed?

Fine it's bad for fan when a show is cancelled but you simply say that any reason given to something happening in the GNR camp is crap! Cool down people.

Even if it was, isn't Axl Rose your idol? Don't you a single second wish him well?

I'm no Axlite but what a surprise to read ONLY negative thought!

Jesus, I thought it was a GNR forum, I mean, in favour of GNR.

Get better Axl!

Note: I still can remember the time when fan of this forum were really into GNR. May this times come back.

True or not: Who the fuck are you to question every fucking damn thing?

Axl N' Company Ignite the Metro Centre

Submitted by Jon Careless on 11.21.06 at 2:56pm.

Once 11:50 pm rolled around, I'm sure many of us were convinced he wouldn't show. We've all the heard the horror stories. Even recently, it was reported Guns N' Roses cancelled their show in Portland Maine because they weren't allowed to drink alcohol onstage. I must say, I was worried.

But after all the waiting, the jeering, and the cheers of anticipation, once the first few bars of "Welcome To The Jungle" came through the speakers, the place erupted. For the next two hours, Axl Rose would have every one of us in the palm of his hand.

Through most of 'Welcome to the Jungle,' it was difficult to even hear Axl's voice over the noise of the crowd. The explosions popped at just the right moments, the crackling noise blasting everyones eardrums as Axl bounded frenetically across the stage. The onslaught of the guitars was even greater than expected, since the band chose to have three guitarists on-stage all at once. Robin Finck and Tommy Stinson were in top form, infusing each song with flashy, screaming solos that screamed 1983.

The concert did have a certain nostalgic feeling throughout, as I guess that's warranted being a Guns N' Roses show. During the sonic, 'You Could Be Mine,' a video screen above showed retro drag racing clips set against changing neon backgrounds. The video illuminated the stage completely as Axl screamed the lyrics to the crowd.

A personal highlight for me was "Mr. Brownstone," a song so obvious in its statement on the struggles of heroin addiction, its almost odd the song has such a raucous feel. The live version was even better than I could imagine. Axl, with his trademark howl blowing through the chorus "No, no, now-oh-oh, he won't leave me alone."

But I'm sure many people who attended this show will say their fondest moment came during the classic 'November Rain,' the rock ballad everyone knows the second it starts. The lights went down and the lighters went up, and the grand piano became the focus of everyone's attention. The crowd sung along with every word too, their hands swaying back and forth. The scene was exactly how I pictured it would be.

It appears for right now at least, Axl Rose and company are exactly where they need to be.

Thanks for posting! It seems you had great time!

broken, sorry, the blues, there was a time, sounds like a potentially mehelencholy album...

Yes, that's what I was thinking too!!

It seems Axl wants to make a big book of "past problems" and hand over it to the public.

Anyone willing to write his biography? Get your handkerchieves!

I hope what will be on CD won't be depressing. !

Axl, do you supply the gun too along with the compact disc?

Please, no offense intended but it made me laugh!

Kaneda,

Why keeping on asking things nobody has clue of?

Indeed, if there is something you missed in the previous debates on the same topic, you could go re-read them before posting.

Since you didn't like their latest performance you attended, try another band.

Have a nice day.

Wow, you just don't expect stuff like this. Nice pics. And a very cool thing for Axl to do. I know MJF is pushing hard and I hope he's successful in finding a cure.

Same here, fingers crossed.

While some people on this board will say last night's show was the best show of their lives, the majority of MSG last night was completely out of it after 5 songs...I kept wondering why was it in 2002 the entire garden rocked so much harder than it did in 2006. The loss of Buckethead and the failure to slot in guitarists that people actually care about is crippling Guns N Roses.

I think it's safe to say that Axl's re-invention of Guns N Roses will never work. Album or no album, there's just no real chemistry up on stage and DON'T TELL ME THERE IS! Just go watch the old Gunners on youtube and then tell me this band has similar chemistry. Axl keeps trying to get us to love these new musicians, which is why he gives them each way-too-long solo oportunities. Funny, these new guys could solo for hours and they never come close to matching a solo by Bucket or Slash.

Also, a filled MSG and AXL never ONCE mentioned the album...he never talked about the new songs, he didn't sing any news songs...in fact, the setlist wasn't bad, but the order of the songs was just off...once the crowd was out of it, they never returned.

I don't know, I wouldn't spend any more money seeing these guys live, in fact, I really don't want to see them live again. I'll buy Chinese D if it ever comes out, enjoy it, and pray he will reconcile with Slash and return GNR to it's former glory.

Axl if you can here me, GET SLASH BACK NOW! !!!

So!!!!

YOU DID ATTEND A SHOW FOR ONCE !!!!!!!!

Well! You're almost human now and you have a opinion!

Do you feel better now that you can officially agree with general journalistic opinion?

Or are you desappointed cos you wanted to enjoy?

Peace!

Hey People? Aren't you over-reacting to a simple statement? to a cancelled show?

Peace, people, peace.

Sorry, this one won't be long. Merk and Axl are the two biggest charlatans going? Do these fuckers even understand human behavior? There's one way to dispel lies and rumors, and that's with the truth...BUt why is that so fucking hard in their case?

After reading Merk's comments I wanted to have frozen watermelons cannon shot into my crotch! The man is just an excuse machine. The fact that GNR, the band that says whatever they want, have adopted censorship as a means to stop the backlash is rediculous. 99% of the backlash is about the lack of album news or promotion, I don't see Merk shedding any light on that subject.

Also, I love how Merk claims every fan at the Meadowlands had "lost" themselves in an amazing concert, yet everyone that was there said the crowd sucked, was dead, and mostly bored. What the fuck?

Ultimately, Merk and Axl can't figure out how to control the internet, and Axl is so used to having control, but listen buddy, this ain't 92 anymore, if you fuck with your fans, the word will spread over the internet that you are a shithead real fast. Axl and Merk need to get with the modern world and release some real news and stop with the same old censorship, nobody understands us, those are lies crap.

Axl and Merk? WHen the fuck does Chinese Democracy start? That's all we want to know, don't have an answer? Then shut the fuck up, cancel the tour, and don't come back until your ready to deliver.

Dear Kaneda,

Don't take it bad, but... did you really search around you if anybody wanted to hear your complain before you decided we would?

Not that you're boring, no not at all, it's just that we had so many posts like this before and very recently also.

I don't say it especially for you, but you're among them, can you people try and understand that if something pisses you off badly, we are not always the one willing to know it?

Just a reminder before you asked Merck, Axl or anyone to shut the fuck up: YOU were part of those BEGGING, FALLING DOWN TO YOUR KNEES, just to have a simple Statement from the management or from AXL himself.

You've had : A great tour in Europe, Axl everywhere partying around and doing his singing job FRANCKLY well and more recently, STATEMENTS

Tell me baby Kaneda: What is it you didn't like of your own requests?

I won't tell you that you can't always get want you want, but sometimes it's the case. It's a fact we all want chinese Democracy. I promise you. But we had a lot this year already, don't you think? Does someone owe you anything?

Please, everytime you're angry, try and look around before you post again the SAME SHIT all over again.

We know you: we remember your depression for not seing axl everywhere and all your criticism as well as your intend to come back with positive terms on Axl and the band. Like I said: WE KNOW YOU WELL.

But in return:

CAN'T YOU FORGET US SOMETIMES?

It's a heartfelt request.

Sleeping Stone.

Simple ignorance from me: (among others)

"When does Chinese Year ends/starts?"

Im about 195-200 lbs

Definitely floor! :krider:

Kannon.

yea, floor is where you wana' be at.

seating is for old ladies, go for the floor,get wild, swap sweat with people you don't know,and if it gets really crowded you might have sex and not know it.

fucking tv!!!! the question should be "what rockstar returned with an european and US tour, and anounced the most anticipated album in rock history".... but no... the Hillfiger incident... FUCKEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, Axl Rose is known for very different kind of things... but seldom remembered for music.

It's strange.

apparently its emmanuelle beart! if it is, go axl!

http://www.wumarkus.com/images/Emmanuelle%20Beart%20nue.jpg

looks like her to me.

just repeating what i read on HTGTH for the sake of it

Glad you wrote " just repeating what i read on htgth...." because I was going to offer you glasses, lenses or whatever.

but then I reread and you wrote "looks like her to me" so definitly, go buy glasses.

Emmanuelle Beart is a monster of beauty...don't insult her comparing her to the other girl.

And for your information E. Beart is around 40, so definitly check what you write if you want to go on letting people think you got something great to say.

She was just saying what someone suggested on HTGTH , she´s not talking as if she knew the universal truth, Cherry just gave her opinion and can be wrong like any of us.

still, she could have checked before...

I adore Emmanuelle Beart so I don't like when someone compares to less pretty. don't make a fuss of it. PLEASE

apparently its emmanuelle beart! if it is, go axl!

http://www.wumarkus.com/images/Emmanuelle%20Beart%20nue.jpg

looks like her to me.

just repeating what i read on HTGTH for the sake of it

Glad you wrote " just repeating what i read on htgth...." because I was going to offer you glasses, lenses or whatever.

but then I reread and you wrote "looks like her to me" so definitly, go buy glasses.

Emmanuelle Beart is a monster of beauty...don't insult her comparing her to the other girl.

And for your information E. Beart is around 40, so definitly check what you write if you want to go on letting people think you got something great to say.

7 pages for this?

He looks great to me goatee or not, braids or not. I frankly can't see the problem.