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On 9/17/2019 at 6:51 PM, BN38416 said:

This song is pretty damn good... Even without a solo... Axls vocals sound unfinished... Which hopefully means... The finished version will be way cooler

That's because they are. Those are scratch vocals as it's a real demo, unlike the other songs we've heard that were mostly completed songs with multi layered vocals and multiple takes pieced together for a final product. This is a single take, with flubs and missed lines. No other track on CD, released or unreleased that we've heard, has single take vocals and all the songs are a mix of multiple takes glued together (much like a lot of the guitar parts). 

On 9/13/2019 at 1:46 PM, History2010 said:

Incredible. I wonder how many other "jams" and instrumental moments like that will end up being actual songs once all the material eventually leaks.

This sounds nothing like Atlas, any part of Atlas, either in the chords being played or the melody being played. It does sound somewhat like a more fleshed out As It Began, though.

The idea that Axl really did spend his time making piano tracks with whale/dolphin sounds is hilarious to the point of satire 

The drums section in 3$P/Better in what is now the intro for the live version is fucking killer and one of the most bad ass things I've heard in a Guns track from any era. Sounds like APC/Tool or something. Absolutely should have kept that pattern. I'm really surprised at how Better is essentially complete minus the added bit from Richard and extending a few bars here and there for solos. For some reason I assumed it was a later song that got worked together, not that there are literally parts from the demo in 2000 that are still in the final released mix 

This is excellent. Can not believe someone told Axl this wasn't good enough. This is actually exactly what I thought NuGuns/Axl solo stuff would sound like. 

9 minutes ago, Jordan Rose said:

Absolutely. Can't understand how anyone could think differently. Same with the alternate weak/triumphant verses on Scraped. 

Haha, yup. I'm bamboozled by the number of people loving Atlas. 

The vocal on the first 'remember your naaaaaame' is sick but it starts fading out as he transitions higher and higher. Sounds awesome. 

Imagine him doing this in live 2002 when he had the powerful falsetto/head voice mastered (nobody said Mickey until 2011).

You don't have to imagine, he actually did that on the 2002 live versions of The Blues.

Reminds me a lot of Bring It Back Home (which I think should have been used on UYI, and they should go back to it for whatever they put out on an upcoming UYI box set/ep/lp). Could def be a baller song with a real vocal take (and presumably the three voices of Axl layered together). Could definitely hear Slash play some dope stuff over this (mostly the keyboard riff just on guitar would be enough, really). But considering no one had heard of this song until this situation and no one (Axl, any band members, Rolling Stone) ever mentioned it, it probably got dropped completely. 

I can't tell a difference between the first leaked and the drums up versions beyond the first version is (very, very) slightly louder

Is this the actual drums up version or the fanmade one from a few days ago

7 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Trust me; no you don’t. Every time I bring up GnR to people outside of this fandom, all I hear is “Axl is never sober” and “Axl is late to everything” and “all Axl ever does is rant and start riots,” and when I try to explain to people that he’s totally different now, they don’t believe me. Then they say “he’s fat” and pull out that meme pic from 2010, thinking it was taken like yesterday or something.

the other day I was at the convenience store and the cashier had an AC/DC shirt on and I said “nice shirt, I had wanted to see them when Axl was their singer but didn’t get the chance,” and she said “I heard he showed up late to every AC/DC show and was always drunk and sounded horrible,” and we here all know that in reality it was the opposite. He was as professional as can be for AC/DC.

point is, no matter how much better Axl and GnR get now, he’s done a lot of damage to his reputation for too many years to ever 100% fix the public perception of him, so the less the general public talks about Axl/GnR in the present tense, the better imo.

EDIT: I understand that none of what I said above really matters, cause at the end of the day they still have millions of fans. NITL grossed as high as it did for a reason... it’s just sad that some people have such a warped perception of Axl and/or GnR nowadays.

Lol if they thought he was fat in 2010, he's significantly more husky over the past 3 years than he was as "fat Axl". 

Last Summer's festival circuit got promoted by promoters (not the band themselves) as having "2 new songs"

which turned out to be Shadow and Slither 

I would imagine anything "new" or more accurately "different" for the set list would be a new cover (maybe another VR song) and one or two UYI deep cuts. I see literally zero chance of them playing unreleased material from any time period in the next 2 months of shows.

34 minutes ago, dadud said:

honestly our goal was to get enough of a panic going that some hoarder would put something up as we delayed "the upload" of the "zip of all the cd's" we got. not really a disinformation thing. also to make a certian hoarder/seller sweat a little under his boobs.

How could you possibly have thought that was a good or useful idea lmao

23 minutes ago, axlinkafayette said:

Hard school is FAR better than Atlas Shrugged

 

I kept thinking, how many times am I going to hear the same lyric.  Over and over

Each time is different. 

Lmao

Drums sound dope tho

It already has a catchy chorus. 

Now that I think about it, I'm amazed Axl just let Ron shred over Catcher and put it on the album instead of recreating the created Brian May solo note for note out of Ron's takes.

Breh if this fuck really re-recorded vocals for CD songs AFTER THE ALBUM WAS RELEASED 

21 minutes ago, 1987b said:

GnR should just drop these on ITunes if they are going to leak anyways.  Seems like no downside if they give the unheard songs the same treatment they gave Shadow of your Love.. clean them up a little bit and just drop the tracks on iTunes. If they get bad reviews the band can say they were just demos.  If one is a hit then it’s just gravy. 

They have a record deal from the 90s, pretty sure they can't just drop digital tracks. Anything they release has to go through the label, and I doubt the label wants to waste an album on their contract on 20 year old demos on iTunes.

The UYI demos that circulate at least are almost all the actual album takes just without the album mixing. AFD did have some changes, though, certainly. The original outro for Rocket Queen is just awful. 

All these posts about "it's not a hit" lmao how on earth does that matter to anyone here 

Surely someone got Atlas and The Blues mixed up to say that thing about glam November Rain

Lol at Slash not wanting to make Soundgarden/Pearl Jam/more ballads then going on to form VR and do a bunch of STP songs, and all the stuff Axl was writing that wasn't Buckethead driven songs (which came after slash's replacement was replace) sounds like it could have been on UYI 3 in 1993. Obviously the musical differences was not the real issue between those two and that part of the break up history can probably be retired.

Who is to say he didn't? I don't think there's any song on released CD that is completely clean or "Mickey" voice for the entire song.

There aren't "holy grails". I think people misunderstood what Axl was trying to do with CD because of the silence and delays. He wasn't Brian Wilson trying to make a world changing piece while losing his mind and being unable to piece together what he was trying to do. It was just Axl trying to write songs with a different crew of helpers that freed him up to try different types of songs than he would have written with Izzy/Duff/Slash. All of these songs likely would have been out by now had the label accepted what he turned in in 2000/2001/2002. He wasn't trying to make the greatest album ever made, he wasn't even trying to make the greatest GNR album ever made. Songs about the things going on in his life at the time (lawsuits, break up of the old band, relationship hangups, a brother in law he didn't like, etc).

He thought what he presented was finished multiple times and the label/producers said "not good enough" and that forced him to keep tinkering. 

What really doesn't make sense to me is that if they had let him get all this stuff out and out of his system, it would have likely made a reunion more possible at a much earlier time, especially if the new material had flopped, but the label would have been able to recoup on their investment and move on. No one gives a fuck when Steven Tyler or Mick Jagger or Roger Daltrey put out solo records and it doesn't harm Aerosmith or The Stones or The Who when they don't sell. Even putting all this stuff under the GNR banner and it not being a huge hit wouldn't have mattered much when the reunion came around: See the reaction to the actual released CD and the reunion. 

18 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Shackler’s,Silkworms, Riad, and Scraped all kindly disagree.  

None of those are industrial songs. At all.