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It's funny people always said Axl was trying to do an industrial record and was chasing trends from the late 90s when in fact it seems pretty clear he was chasing the trends Guns missed out on in 1991-1993 with UYI. The only song that could be argued is industrial (and it isn't, but it has some tinges) is Oh My God and Axl didn't have anything to do with the music for that. 

7 minutes ago, Creed said:

come on...this can be played live. but without a chorus its not a hit. and the end of this song is pointless.

It can't be played live as recorded. It would need alterations the same way Catcher, Shackler's, and Prostitute needed changes to be played live.

Honestly I have no idea how you could even play this live with the key changes that sound like real time pro tools detuning and vocals/instruments that play over each other. One wonders why Axl was writing songs that couldn't be performed live as recorded. 

Everyone thought Axl was chasing trends from the late 90s, no one expected him to write Temple Of The Dog songs. 

2 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Well to be fair that recording we heard is from like 1999-2000. Some of the vocals might be different now.

I don't know what would make you think that when most of the vocal tracks that made it on to CD were from 1999 or 1998. Like....how many different versions of IRS are there, yet all the same vocals from the first try.

48 minutes ago, sofine11 said:

I guess it depends on what they're trying to get out of all this.

Attention that the content exists and is for sale, and then people to sell it to. Not to leak or share with other fans, just to keep selling with the other inner circle or hoarders. Rick accidentally exposed the whole group because he wasn't discrete and was trying to make multiple deals at the same time, not realizing it was with multiple people in the same circle. Who leaked Hardschool and the early CD tracks is still up for debate, but it was the result of someone trying to devalue the content because they were mad about one of the deals going south. It's unlikely more will leak since there are a number of people now who are publicly known to have the content of the locker discs, but I'm positive they're still for sale if you know who to contact and how.

24 minutes ago, rebeldhipi said:

If i had to guess it would be with Freese and maybe Tommy.

Josh said in a interview that he wrote 3 songs for chinese. The title track. And two others that went to the b-list or c-list.

 

The song has  a punk rock wibe similiar to cd and other songs Josh has in his solo albums

A list/B list didn't refer to quality. A list was finished with vocals. B list was songs that were still being worked on, be it no vocals or still adding instrumentation. 

Atlas is just A and G back and forth, you could put just about any melody over that "progression". That's how most of the Axl songs are, 2-3 chords back and forth. The Blues, Catcher, TWAT, Atlas. To think that must be Atlas is lol. 

How many people do you know who are in possession of these songs, brother

11 minutes ago, El Nono Pololo said:

I can see Catcher and The Blues on the radio, and Prostitute on a big soundtrack for example, but I cannot for the life of me see CD (the song) as a radio hit. But they obviously had enough material for a strong album that could've made some waves at the time, at the very least, with big videos, intense touring and such. However, 2002 was such a mess on the touring/media front that I really don't know what could've had happened tbh. Axl really seemed keen on shooting himself on the foot over and over again in that time period.

I would't really put most of the blame on other people either. I mean, who are we to blame for the 11 years without any new material since CD got out? Did Bob Ezrin drop in again to tell Axl his other songs suck as well?

1999-2002, it would have been a hit. It fit in with the post grunge bands that were blowing up in 2000-2001. 

I also think the Going Down demo could have been a radio hit on alt/college rock stations in the same time period, and one on mainstream rock if it was a little meatier and had Axl on it.

3 hours ago, RussTCB said:

It's so crazy to me that Rick posted this (which I'm told are actual GNR lyrics) and he once posted the first two lines of Perhaps, yet no one noticed. 

I do you know those are real unless you've heard the tracks yourself 

With time for these to really sit with me to where I'm not expecting the later added parts, I'm 100% convinced that CD, Catcher, Hardschool, Prostitute (v3), all as is, and The Blues with some better mixing would have been radio hits anytime between 1999-2002 and if Axl had been able to take the studio voice we've heard from these and Live Era tracks for promotional tours, GNR would have been on top of the rock world again.

Fucking nerds not letting Axl put these out in that time frame smh. 

Axl was exceptionally generous to Ron when it came to CD, especially considering he was literally a last minute replacement and no one in the band even wanted him for 3 years. 

4 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

People are saying that's just a low quality remix of the Rock Band tracks. At least that's what I was told. 

I don't think so as the piano and orchestration can't be separated in the Rock Band files. 

I don't think that TWAT clip is the same as the version that's been out for years. Unless the quality is so much higher that you can hear guitar noodling that hasn't been heard on any other version of the track (and I assume is probably Axl based on the guitar playing on the Madagascar that was reportedly his playing)

This should have been replaced either OMG or Silkworms at Rio and been part of the 2002 setlist. 

Tommy asked for a leave of absence or to leave the band all together because of the other tours and money he was being offered for the Replacements reunion and other projects. He encouraged the reunion for his sake as much as Axl's. The direct quote from Axl when Tommy told him this was something like "Well what am I going to do without a band?". He also suggested Duff fill in for him in 2014, he wasn't pushed out. 

23 hours ago, DarkLotus1111 said:

So it's just ... with the music? I thought others had copies of it? 

There are at least 3 different people that have had the discs over the past few days. Impossible to know who made copies of what and who, if anyone, those were given to along the way.

1 hour ago, Axl_morris said:

Universal will be angry they can't sell you a box load of shit with these demos.

That didn't stop them from selling a AFD box set with a shit load of demos and tracks that had been readily available in physical trading and online for literally decades. 

That minute of Atlas sounds nothing like I expected and in fact sounds like a UYI song to me

Have full songs leaked or just clips? Conflicting posts in this mug.

You would think digital releases of the CD stuff might be a solid way to recoup some of the losses, but perhaps for tax reasons that might not be a good business idea, idk. I would also think the ownership rights to these particular discs are murky in 20 years after the fact, with various producers and labels being involved over the years. 

9 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

Axl's vocals on RQ and NT are studio takes from the 90s or something

I would imagine from the same sessions where the earliest recorded CD songs came from. Sounds like the same voice/technique/highs as IRS especially, imo. I would say it's probably pretty possible that they were takes from the AFD 99 sessions as well.

Axl's vocal takes on Rocket Queen and Nightrain are amazing and there were a handful of times he tried to do them like that live and it was also awesome.