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I don't think fans of the band would ever complain about a Slash or a Matt/Steven solo. It's just not the same thing.

Slash said in his biography that he couln't play with Paul, that there was no chemistry between them. I wasn't there, but putting a band together is not as simple as getting random musicians in a room and telling them to play. There has to be a certain level of chemistry between them. If there was no chemistry between Slash and Paul, which does not mean that Paul can't play, I don't see why Slash or the rest of the band should've accepted him in the band.

I'll give you another example. After Denis Stratton was fired from Iron Maiden, Steve Harris started looking for someone to take his place in the band. They tried several guitarists, but none of them had any chemistry with Dave Murray, the other guitarist in the band. It wasn't until they heard Adrian Smith play that they found the guy they were looking for. And it all came down to the chemistry between them.

And I just wanna make something very clear. The fact that I like Slash's solo stuff doesn't mean I hate Axl

True..But Axl himself said he felt Paul got the best out of slash, and no one in the band had a proper replacement for gilby anyways, so axl made the decision.

Also, can't forget about Slash's ego. Slash didn't like paul because slash didn 't pick him, axl did, and why give credit to axl for anything??

All good points..

Yeah, yeah, but Paul is a nobody for this day and Slash is a guitar hero

Truth is the turth hurts don't you agree?

inb4slashpentatonicbash

Fact is, Slash is just as egominiacal as Axl. Slash just tells you what you wanna hear. And no one cares for sellouts who pose for guitar hero and plays with rap boys.

Truth is the truth hurts, don't you agree? It's harder for slash to live with the truth about him, than the lies about Axl..

1. Never understood why Axl fired Gilby. Slash said he was one of the few guitarists they could find on such short notice, whose style fit the band perfectly and resembled Izzy's.

Anyway...

1. I don't see why Slash would be a sellout for lending his likeness to guitar hero. Nothing wrong with making money off this image

2. I don't think Slash didn't like Paul because it was Axl who brought him in. Matt didn't like Paul, Duff didn't like Paul, Slash didn't like Paul. It was about them believing Paul didn't fit in GnR.

According to Duff's version of events, they all said "No" to Paul even before giving him a chance. I'd say that when you shoot a guy down even before giving him a shot, if you basically make up your mind about the guy before he even plays a note for you, it's pretty unfair. Especially when you've not offered any names as an alternative.

According to Slash in an interview around the time, Gilby got into a fight with Duff, then got into a fight with Axl, then went to the press airing his grievances (claiming that Axl and Duff had one vision of what GN'R was supposed to be and the rest of the band had another, saying there would never be another GN'R album, etc), and was fired. Gilby himself never said that he was FIRED. He said he didn't quit nor was fired, but the "checks simply stopped coming in." Suing the band in 1995 I'm sure did little to ease any bad blood or make Axl re-think firing him.

According to Axl, he didn't even think to consider if Paul would be a "real" member, if he would tour with the band or anything. He simply brought him in to try to act as Izzy did, to lay down a foundation for a riff, to recreate the Slash/Izzy dynamic.

Ironically what made AFD's guitar dynamic so good was that Slash didn't want Izzy in GN'R at the time, he wanted to be GN'R's only guitarist, and Izzy seemed to be fighting against him, which only made each guitarist push the other harder, resulting in great interplay and riffs. I mean Slash at one point said he NEVER enjoyed playing with Izzy in Guns. That same sort of dynamic hate/tension could've made Paul and Slash click well if Slash had given him a chance. I think his disdain for Paul had to do with the fact that Paul was not "cool" and that he was "Axl's boy." Basically, being a dick to Paul, or turning him down, was a way to give the finger indirectly to Axl.

Slash had already turned down Zakk Wylde, he had already turned down and mocked Axl's idea to have GN'R do MTV Unplugged, he turned Axl down and refused to do any "Stephanie Seymour piano ballads". I mean how many times can you turn a guy down before it just seems like you're being stubborn?

Huh? Source please...

gnr has the greatest opening song any band could ever hope for. but they've been choosing to kick their sets off with a hugely unpopular single from their most unpopular album. i think it's ballsy as hell in a way. but also lame in another way. do you think kicking his shows off with a turdy song fans aren't really into is just his way of saying 'fuck you' to those same fans who would rather he play popular songs / reunite / lose weight / rehearse? it's like he's raising a middle finger to the world every time they launch into that song.

"it don't really matter!"

I can think of a couple of songs that are better opening tunes. Metallica's Creeping Death for instance or Megadeth's Wake up dead. Or Iron Maiden's Be quick or be dead... But whatever...

gnr has the greatest opening song any band could ever hope for. but they've been choosing to kick their sets off with a hugely unpopular single from their most unpopular album. i think it's ballsy as hell in a way. but also lame in another way. do you think kicking his shows off with a turdy song fans aren't really into is just his way of saying 'fuck you' to those same fans who would rather he play popular songs / reunite / lose weight / rehearse? it's like he's raising a middle finger to the world every time they launch into that song.

"it don't really matter!"

Hugely unpopular? Funny, 'cause it's one of the few songs off CD I like and I'm not into CD at all. Hell, even my CD-hating buddies like that tune. And I suspect we're not the only ones.

gnr has the greatest opening song any band could ever hope for. but they've been choosing to kick their sets off with a hugely unpopular single from their most unpopular album. i think it's ballsy as hell in a way. but also lame in another way. do you think kicking his shows off with a turdy song fans aren't really into is just his way of saying 'fuck you' to those same fans who would rather he play popular songs / reunite / lose weight / rehearse? it's like he's raising a middle finger to the world every time they launch into that song.

"it don't really matter!"

It's just a song.

i find that hard to believe. does anyone think a reputable psychiatrist would want to act in a client's music video?

Of course not, but reputable psychiatrists don't generally practice the regression therapy he was into at the time either...

there must have been a pretty short list of doctors willing to back up axl's claim that his spousal abuse was the fault of reincarnated native americans.

Lol wut?

Suicide isn't selfish.

This.

Someone should kidnap Axl and Slash and lock them in the same room till they made up

How can you listen to rock/metal and not know what AIC is?

We had the Cobain discussion months ago. And the thing is- Axl fucklng hated Nirvana & Cobain big time. Nirvana sucked and Axl tore them and "alternative" music apart. In fact- Axl may hate Nirvana/Kurt as much as he hates Slash.

Oh, FFS, not this again? Axl LOVED Nirvana and wanted to befriend Kurt, all the negativity he ended up spewing was a result of Kurt rejecting him and hurting his feelings. The end.

This

I don't know if Axl and Kurt can be compared, but I do think Kurt was a little bit overrated as a musician. Nirvana did have great songs, but I don't get why some people call Cobain a god.

Because he wrote lyrics people could relate to. Despite the way he ended up he gave people hope and something to hold onto. As a teenager I sure felt like many of the songs he'd written might as well had been written about me and my feelings. The same is the case with Alice In Chains. but because Layne died alone by a drug overdose years after AIC were finished and didn't kill himself like Kurt did no one gives a shit about Layne or AIC.

Kurt deserves the credit he gets, but it annoys me how he's mostly known and worshipped for his drug addiction and death.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan too, but I think people exaggerate when they call him a god. Now, AIC... it's one of my favorite bands and I don't think people have forgotten AIC or Layne. It's just that, at least where I come from, Nirvana is more popular and mainstream than AIC. Nirvana is a band that occasional rock-grunge-metal fans listen to, whereas AIC is more for true metalheads. I repeat, at least where I come from. Don't know how it is in the US.

However, I'll take AIC and Layne over Nirvana any day of the week. I think they're songs are way better and feel AIC was/is a better band overall

Oh my god, that's so funny.....

He's on Axl's payroll.

I don't know if Axl and Kurt can be compared, but I do think Kurt was a little bit overrated as a musician. Nirvana did have great songs, but I don't get why some people call Cobain a god.

Well, it doesn't take a genius to see the Axl-lovers/Slash-haters vs Slash-loves/Axl-haters thing that goes on here. But I know what you mean. Will have to start reading those topics as soon as I can

Out ta get me

Street of dreams

Move to the city (Lies version)

You're new here... you'll have a lot of back-reading to do

I know. It kinda sucks being the new kid on the block

Why though?

I'm sure Axl would have a heart attack if he bumped into Slash backstage

Slash said in his biography that he couln't play with Paul, that there was no chemistry between them. I wasn't there, but putting a band together is not as simple as getting random musicians in a room and telling them to play. There has to be a certain level of chemistry between them. If there was no chemistry between Slash and Paul, which does not mean that Paul can't play, I don't see why Slash or the rest of the band should've accepted him in the band.

I'll give you another example. After Denis Stratton was fired from Iron Maiden, Steve Harris started looking for someone to take his place in the band. They tried several guitarists, but none of them had any chemistry with Dave Murray, the other guitarist in the band. It wasn't until they heard Adrian Smith play that they found the guy they were looking for. And it all came down to the chemistry between them.

And I just wanna make something very clear. The fact that I like Slash's solo stuff doesn't mean I hate Axl

True..But Axl himself said he felt Paul got the best out of slash, and no one in the band had a proper replacement for gilby anyways, so axl made the decision.

Also, can't forget about Slash's ego. Slash didn't like paul because slash didn 't pick him, axl did, and why give credit to axl for anything??

All good points..

Yeah, yeah, but Paul is a nobody for this day and Slash is a guitar hero

Truth is the turth hurts don't you agree?

inb4slashpentatonicbash

Fact is, Slash is just as egominiacal as Axl. Slash just tells you what you wanna hear. And no one cares for sellouts who pose for guitar hero and plays with rap boys.

Truth is the truth hurts, don't you agree? It's harder for slash to live with the truth about him, than the lies about Axl..

1. Never understood why Axl fired Gilby. Slash said he was one of the few guitarists they could find on such short notice, whose style fit the band perfectly and resembled Izzy's.

Anyway...

1. I don't see why Slash would be a sellout for lending his likeness to guitar hero. Nothing wrong with making money off this image

2. I don't think Slash didn't like Paul because it was Axl who brought him in. Matt didn't like Paul, Duff didn't like Paul, Slash didn't like Paul. It was about them believing Paul didn't fit in GnR.

While Kennedy's voice is not exactly my cup of tea, it doesn't really annoy me. But yeah, it's a great song. I haven't listened to Slash's latest album. Is it good?

It'd be really interesting to interview her

You think Bumblefoot will eventually quit?

If there was another long layoff after the current tour followed by more dates with the current set it wouldn't surprise me if he quit.

Yup - he loves the gig, but loves the music. He's spoken out numerous times about the hour they go on stage...

I'm sorry. I'm not followig you. what do you mean?

Anyone else like this song?

It'd be funny to see a list of Axl's psychiatrists. Probably longer than the list of ex-GNR members. Probably rivals the number of his ex girlfriends.

:rofl-lol:

Slash said in his biography that he couln't play with Paul, that there was no chemistry between them. I wasn't there, but putting a band together is not as simple as getting random musicians in a room and telling them to play. There has to be a certain level of chemistry between them. If there was no chemistry between Slash and Paul, which does not mean that Paul can't play, I don't see why Slash or the rest of the band should've accepted him in the band.

I'll give you another example. After Denis Stratton was fired from Iron Maiden, Steve Harris started looking for someone to take his place in the band. They tried several guitarists, but none of them had any chemistry with Dave Murray, the other guitarist in the band. It wasn't until they heard Adrian Smith play that they found the guy they were looking for. And it all came down to the chemistry between them.

And I just wanna make something very clear. The fact that I like Slash's solo stuff doesn't mean I hate Axl

You think Bumblefoot will eventually quit?

r u stalking me?

Never heard of them