cheesecake

1 hour ago, IncitingChaos said:

the tone, control and ease in which he sings this is why there should be no excuses with GNR. Look at his face, these vocals aren't stressing him at all...it's just natural. That Mickey nonsense is not natural! It shouldn't happen. 

Waiting for apologists to jump in and justify that Guns' songs are a different beast altogether and are much harder to sing vs AC/DC's.

Urm why the need to validate how naturally *pretty* (or not?) she is to the world?

1 hour ago, sanity_lost said:

She seems like one of those people who are nice and fun to be around.

Then her vocabulary starts to creep into yours and it takes two years of conscious effort to quit talking like her.

 

On 2/17/2017 at 6:24 AM, BlueJean Baby said:

Wow is this guy serious..no comparison as far as I can see...I don't hate DJ but he is no Slash 

Urm... meanwhile, prepare to vomit a bucketful LOL: 

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Dj-Slashba-Tattoo.jpg

35 minutes ago, Juventino said:

Sweet Child O' Mine (security guard forces to stop filming near the end)

Errr why??

Interesting story there and what an experience though I'd say if you had shared this 6..7 years ago the excitement around here would've been a thousand times over 

Thanks for sharing 

1 hour ago, Whiskey Rose said:

Don't feel bad, when @Jane M. said she used urban dictionary to translate, I had to google urban dictionary

Great to know I'm not alone 

54 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

When the current generation of people in their late teens and earls 20s is in their 30s 10-15 years from now on this will be normal tbh. She totally doesn't come across as a woman in her 30s right now though, she lives like she's still 16 it seems

Should ask her to prom.

10 minutes ago, Fansince88 said:

"Lid" means  hat.  She wants you to notice her hat.  I'm almost as bothered by the addition of Melissa as I am by all the Steven stuff going on.  

Gee that goes to show how antiquated I am LOL

7 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

Seeing what happened in Argentina, it's not hard to believe what Steven said that they offered him to play at one of the gigs on this leg of the tour. So he had to choose one fn' show and travel all the way to Japan/Australia to play two songs. Meanwhile, Angus Young got to play two songs at three shows in a row even when that meant playing two more covers at the expense of GNR songs like Coma. The whole band had to rehearse two songs that are not gonna become part of the set just to make Axl happy, while having Steven didn't imply any extra work, just playing songs they play anyway. Again, how can you defend this?

Great point. Never thought of this before. Yeah.

I know Angus is most reliable - doesn't drink doesn't smoke and all that - but come on.... Steven's not reliable enough to play more than ONE song? He went on playing for few hours right after that show to prove that he's more than able to do it.

I feel like his version of what went down was a lot inflated but there's still some obvious truth in it and if Axl come out right telling us he just can't stand Steven and not making fans come up with speculations, things will be put on rest quicker.

Or I guess.. that's what they want perhaps. Controversies for publicity. That keeps them in the light ongoing even not for the right reasons.

Makeup free she is not. 

Oh okay. Noooowww i get what her tween language refers to. Lid = eyelids? Oh brother.

Everyone has their fair share in the pie of faults.

4 hours ago, Funky.Monkey said:

A couple of excerpts follow (transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET).  

On what it was like performing with fellow classic-GUNS N' ROSES-lineup members Slash, Duff McKagan and Axl Rose for the first time in twenty-six years in July 2016:  

Adler: "It was, 'Thank you, God, for this beautiful present.' I'd been playing 'Appetite [For Destruction]' [songs] live, 'Use Your Illusion' and the songs that, obviously, I didn't get to play on 'Use Your Illusion', I was practicing them… I was playing twenty-five songs twice a day for two years. 'Cause once I found out [the reunion] was probably gonna happen, I was, like, 'Yes! I'm gonna be ready and on top of it.' And then second rehearsal, I hurt my back and I had to have a minor surgery. I had a pinched nerve in the L4 [nerve root], and within an hour, I was out of the hospital and I was all better. And I talked to them [and said], 'Let me come back,' but it didn't happen, and I was resentful. And then I talked to my sponsor and I was, 'Okay, you're right. I'm not gonna give in to resentment.' And then they called me, and I [went], 'Holy shit! Here it comes. This is gonna be so awesome.' I'm still smiling about it. I have dreams about it. My wife goes, 'What are you smiling about? You're sleeping and you're smiling.' And I go, 'I was on stage in front of seventy thousand people with Slash and Duff and Axl.' I just wish Izzy [Stradlin, former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist] as there, but, shit, I got to do it. Thank you, God. 'Cause I wanted it for twenty-six years. All I did every day was, 'Please, God, let this happen. Let this happen. I wanna play with them again. I wanna do this.' For twenty-six years, every time I'd go out, people — not just one or two, but five, six, ten people, especially when I'd do a show, it was hundreds — [they'd ask me] 'When are you going to get back together?' And I wish I could say it would have been… Well, we would have never broke up, if I had a say."   

On his 1990 exit from GUNS N' ROSES:  

Adler: "If people think that I got kicked out of GUNS N' ROSES for doing drugs, they are so mistaken. Everybody in that band was doing drugs. I was doing less than anybody. I got kicked out of the band, and Izzy got kicked out of the band, and then Slash and Duff did, because Axl wanted to take control of everything — he wanted to own the name, he wanted to be the only person who gets paid for the songs. He wanted to be the manager, the accountant and everything, when all he needs to do is get up there and sing like a motherfucker that he does. But he wanted to own and control everything. Like Elton John — he wanted to be like Elton John or Billy Joel. That's where the whole piano thing came in. He wanted to be a piano man, which is cool, but that's not GUNS N' ROSES. Leave GUNS N' ROSES the way it is, and then you do solo albums, like all musicians in other bands do. But that's what he wanted to do, and that's what happened. So I was the first to go, 'cause I was the easiest one; I was the nicest guy. They tricked me. They had me sign some contract with my lawyer there at the office. And I was completely sick at the time. And I had no idea I was signing my rights away, rights to the name, my royalties. They wanted to basically give me two thousand dollars and throw me in the street. And thank God my mom realized what happened and she got a lawyer for me. And thank God everything got taken care of."   

On whether it was his understanding, while he was rehearsing for the reunion shows early last year, that he would only play one or two songs with GUNS N' ROSES at all the concerts:  

Adler: "My understanding was I was gonna do all the 'Appetite' [material], the 'Lies' and three or four of the 'Use Your Illusion' songs. And then Frank [Ferrer, current GUNS N' ROSES drummer], who's a wonderful, awesome guy, he was gonna do the 'Chinese Democracy' [material] and a couple of the other [songs]… I was gonna start it, he was gonna come in the middle, and I was gonna end it. And I was cool with that."   

On when he realized that plans had changed:  

Adler: "I was ready to do The Troubadour show [on April 1, 2016]. Like I said, I had been playing twenty-five songs twice a day for almost two years — every day. So I was ready to go. And then the second rehearsal… I came into rehearsal in January, February, March. And the fucking second day, I just stretched… All I did was stretch — I put my arms in the air to stretch — and I go, 'I just did something.' And we played another seven songs, and then my back was really sore. And I came home about eight at night, and then by midnight, I couldn't even stand up. It was just terrible. I was out for two weeks, and then I got the epidural after about a week, and then I had the surgery about two weeks… I was ready when they did The Troubadour show. And Duff called me and said, 'Dude, you're not gonna play with us anymore. You're not gonna do these shows.' And I was, like, 'You're the worst fucking person in the world.' And I hung up on him. And I tried to call him back and left a message, saying, 'I'm so sorry I said that.' When I said that he was the worst person in the world, I didn't mean he was, 'cause I was thinking I was the worst person in the world — that I couldn't even fucking get back with my fucking guys after they gave me this opportunity. But I said it to him. And when you have resentments, you say things that you're feeling. And I was feeling that about me, and I said it about him, and I couldn't apologize to him enough, because he knows I love him more than anything. And I got to apologize, 'cause, obviously, I'd seen him last year and we did shows together. And he understood."   

On whether GUNS N' ROSES chose to use Frank Ferrer as the only drummer for most of the shows because of tour-insurance reasons:  

Adler: "They already had Frank, so God forbid I couldn't do it, then there was Frank. So it's not an insurance thing. They just didn't give me the opportunity. It's cheaper to just have Frank. I mean, they were only paying me… not that much. I was doing it — 'cause, thank God, I don't need the money that bad — I was doing it because I wanted to play with them, and I wanted to play for the fans. 'Cause Frank is a great drummer, but he does not play the way Steven Adler plays, and Steven Adler doesn't play the way Matt [Sorum] plays, and Matt doesn't play the way Frank plays. We all have our own style, but my style is the one that is on those records that everybody grew up listening to and [made] memories to. So when Frank is playing those songs, he's not playing them right. He's just really a great time keeper. I mean, put it this way: they were playing '[Mr.] Brownstone'… I didn't know they were playing 'Brownstone' until all of a sudden they started signing the chorus. I went, 'That was 'Brownstone'?' 'Brownstone' you know instantly. I came up with a kickass groove. You know that. And I'm standing, going, 'What song is this?' But, like I said, we all have our own styles."   

On why he only played one song with GUNS N' ROSES at each of the two shows in Buenos Aires, Argentina last November:  

Adler: "I got there. And I got my wife [who is Argentinian], all her family, her parents, her sisters, her sisters' babies, their mothers, their aunts… I got, like, nine of 'em, and I was up there and I was ready to go up. And Axl says, 'What the fuck is he doing here? He's not supposed to be here 'till tomorrow?' So I was, all, 'Excuse me? I just flew fifteen thousand miles.' So they played a few more songs, and I came up, he introduced me, I played one song and they turned the lights out on me. I went back behind the drum riser. And I was all, 'What the fuck?' And everybody in the crew came around and started hugging me and going, 'Dude, we love you, Steve. It's okay.' I mean, the whole crew — there was, like, twenty people who came up to me and talked to me. And then the next night, I did one more song again. Other parts I don't even wanna talk about. All I know is the best of it is was me and my wife got to be together with her family for the first time in fifteen years. I have seen her family, and she's seen her family, but we'd never seen them together. So that was great… I obviously misunderstood to go to Australia and Japan and, I think, Thailand. And then, I was all, 'Yeah, I would love to do that.' But then I found out that it was either one. It was either, 'You can either come to Australia or you can go to Japan or you can go to Thailand.' And I said, 'I can't do that.' But, like I said, I got some closure, and I'm thankful I got to do what I did."   

On whether he still harbors any resentment toward the GUNS N' ROSES guys:  

Adler: "No, no, no. Not at all. I love those guys. It is what it is. What I want it to be is the five of us, and what Axl wants it to be is what he wants it to be, and I respect him for it. I'm just glad I got to be a part of it for the good part — when it was fun and exciting. It was magical when we were together [back in the late '80s]. Back then, even our worst show was great. It was just magic. It was very special. And I couldn't feel more blessed or thankful that I got to be a part of it. Or more proud. I'm proud. I'm gonna die proud. And I'm cool with that. [Laughs]"   

On whether there is zero chance he will play with GUNS N' ROSES again:  

Adler: "I have closure to where if they wanna do it the right way, the five of us… And, like I said, I'll share the stage with Frank — I don't care. As long as I'm there doing my songs, I don't care. But if they'd wanna do it the five of us, I am there! I love those guys. I'm proud of what the five of us… and since the five of us are still alive, I think the five of us should play for our fucking fans, give 'em what they want. I mean, I live a beautiful, comfortable life because people still love our music, and that's every musician's dream — to make music that people love. Not just for a week or a month or a year — this is thirty fucking years, and people still… Every time I get in the car and one of our songs [comes on], I go, 'Okay, there's my twenty-five cents. Yeah!' [Laughs]"   

On whether he thinks there will ever be a proper reunion of the classic GUNS N' ROSES lineup:  

Adler: "Dude, if the five of us got back together, it would be the biggest reunion tour ever in rock — unless John Bonham came back to life or Jimi Hendrix or Jim Morrison and now [THE DOORS] keyboard player. If the five of us are alive, it would be the biggest thing ever; I mean, people would be so happy. It would be like an event… That's what it should be, that's what it could be, but that's not what it is. I asked Slash if he would talk to Axl about that, like, in July it'll be thirty years that 'Appetite' came out. So I was thinking why don't we just do four or five shows and play all of 'Appetite' from beginning to end, throw [in], like, 'Civil War', and maybe something off of… like 'Patience'… and record it, videotape it. And that's it, if that's all you wanna do. And if Axl's happy after that, then we could do more. But I thought that would be really cool. But that's my idea. If it was up to me, it would be a different story. But it is what it is."   

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/steven-adler-explains-his-absence-from-guns-n-roses-reunion-tour-they-just-didnt-give-me-the-opportunity/

 

A gazillion thanks for putting this up. I didn't get the chance to listen to the interview and just basing it on posts that quoted some excerpts off of it.

If Adler's words are 100% true, 100% credible, then from his interview, Axl is still the master of puppets and man with the last say. Like he himself said, he's a dictator. I sure hope this isn't the case.

16 minutes ago, scooby845 said:

I haven't really understood everything cause it's somewhat ambiguous and vague, so I would like you guys, who seem to have the most insights to sort some things out.. @ZoSoRose @Tom-Ass @tsinindy

1. Was Adler meant to play all Appetite, Lies songs or was that his wish?

2. The part preceding Troubadour - he said he injured himself during the rehearsals, but was ready for the show itself, and then Duff told him he wasn't going to play - just Troubadour, or the April warm-up shows, or the whole NITL tour?

3. In Buenos Aires, Axl said - What the fuck is he doing here - cause Steven was supposed to play 2 songs for the 2nd night but they eventually opted for 1 song each night? I thought Axl wasn't as resentful towards Steven...

4. The Japan/Australia/Asia thing - did Steven say he would accept the offer if he played at all of the gigs? But later refused cause he had to choose just one?

5. Was he invited at all NITL shows to guest?

6. Why doesn't he wanna continue his band - ADLER - he said there is no money to support but says he wouldn't play for money with GNR?

7. Did he take money for guest appearance? Would they pay him more for the tour itself than Frank?

8. I thought he was kicked out cause of drugs and ineptitude to play, not cause of creative differences...?

9. Is he willing to guest again only if it's full show with Izzy or is he willing even 1 song with Izzy?

Anyways I'm on Steven's side and this sucks big time... I mean what more money do you need?

Thanks for asking. Would love to know others' opinions and views on these too.

2 minutes ago, dgnr said:

'I was gonna do all the Appetite, the Lies, and 3 or 4 of UYI songs, and then Frank, who is a wonderful, awesome guy, he was gonna do like the Chinese Democracy and a couple of the other covers. So it was like I was gonna start it, and he was gonna come in the middle, and I was gonna end it. And I was cool with that! ' But then he hurted his back on second rehearsal and was out for 2 weeks healing- He was already ok by the time of The Troubadour show but then Duff called him to say that afterall he wasn't playing with them 

Seemed like they had everything well planned before the back injury. Whatever happened between that and the Troub that made those three change their minds? 

I doubt Steven was in it for the money so I don't think money was the issue there.

So 'r' is no longer just 'are' but also 'our'?

Oh Axl.

4 minutes ago, Frey said:

So much CD hate here. I don't think it's a perfect album or anything, but I like a lot of songs on it.

Madagascar and Prostitute are beautiful, SoD sounds like something that could have been on UYI 2 and I like it a lot as well. Sorry and Better are fun. Shackler's Revenge and TWAT are nice enough.

The only ones I can't stand are TIL (instrumental verison is beautiful though), CD (sucks in every way), CITR (boring), Scraped (shit) and ITW (boring as well).

And it pisses me off to no end that they're playing 3 of the (in my eyes) worst songs of that album. 

Not even Slash and Duff can save TIL, CITR and CD as far as I'm concerned.

Why can't they play SoD or Madagascar or somethinh instead? I don't get it.

 

 

Maddy IMO, if we go by the album version, is straight up full of rasp. I'm having a hard time trying to imagine him pulling it off perfectly these days using cleaner voice on it. JMO.

I got signed out when I peruse the D&N forum. It didn't sign me out when I was in the Jungle before going to D&N. And only happens when I'm on my laptop. Mobile's been fine so far. 

So, moments ago, I got into D&N, it asked me to sign in, I did just that, and I hopped over the GNR Official Social Media thread, clicked the main D&N link, it auto-signed me out. 

This time, I did not relogin, instead I clicked Main page to come here to Support, and what did I see? ..... I'm still logged in! Even though just seconds prior, it logged me out and I DID NOT relogin after that. 

Site's a wacko.

Just now, tsinindy said:

I thought that was put to rest 25 years ago lol

And that's how it should be all along but even in this fresh year of 2016 we still see people taking issue of something he wrote (and explained his side of it) 25 years ago, which is quite pathetic.

Should put to rest about him being a homophobic.

He was leading until a couple of days ago. 

Please cast your votes people!!!

For the love of Axl.

DDM is like my favorite song off UYI I, and I love the album version as DDM is supposed to portray certain degree of frustrations and anger and I prefer his raspy voice on the album version. The cleaner voice just didn't do it for me. Sorry.

BOB.... hhmm I can't decide... feel like I like both? Well... maybe I'm sliiiiiiightly partial to the album version but that's maybe due to the fact that I'm more familiar with it? 

Thanks for sharing these! 

Still more than a month before the closing date for voting. But as of now, he's a bit behind. Hope to see more votes coming.

1 hour ago, Jane M. said:

Adalberto James Miranda

That's Del's full name? I learn something today. 

1 minute ago, Italian girl said:

why should they lie and accuse publicly the aeronautical compnay?

it sounds true this time

he arrived in helicopter at dodger's too

I must have missed reading it, but what was the reason? 

3 hours ago, killuridols said:

Why does he need to use a helicopter and how did the rest of the band arrive to the venue?

None of this makes sense to me.

Same thinking here.