Lies They Tell

This is the most difficult vote for me in the whole game so far. Both songs are pretty close to perfect. How do you choose between two perfect songs?

5 hours ago, adamsapple said:

Imagine, just for a moment, Axl says ok people pick a song or two and we gonna play it in concert and in the year 2022 you guys REALLY would want lyrics like:

I agree that Breakdown has better lyrics than Pretty Tied Up, but a song is more than just it's lyrics.

Breakdown has an interesting song structure, but it doesn't really have great memorable riffs if you ask me.

For me Pretty Tied Up is instrumentally pretty much Rock n' Roll perfection.

I like Breakdown in theory more than I actually like it in practice. It's a good song, but it doesn't get me pumped like Pretty Tied Up. Even emotionally songs like Estranged and Yesterdays touch my soul more than Breakdown.

But these are subjective things. I might like Breakdown more if I liked country music more. And I do actually like the song, but not as much as these other remaining songs.

23 minutes ago, Jakey Styley said:

At this rate you idiots are going to put cringe ass Don't Damn Me as a Top 5 UYI 1 song. Like is that really what we're going with?

I hope so! I'd personally rank it the fourth best song on the album. 😁

Voted for Mama Kin. It has nothing to do with it being a cover. I just genuinely like it the least.

2 hours ago, jacdaniel said:

 The views on this forum are generally out of sync with the average standard GNR fan. 

Of course they are, because most of us are not average standard GNR fans. Average casual fans don't usually spend time on message boards.

Hard core fans tend to always prefer some lesser known songs over the biggest hits.

It's just how it is. Look at any fan forum of any band or artists. The hardcore fans always tend to prefer deep cuts. GnR fans are no different.

My brother had Don't Cry, Bad Apples and Don't Damn Me on casette. So those were probably the first GNR songs i ever heard.

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

Sweet child that early??? 🤣 Sorry but you're just wrong if you voted for it, voted purely based on overplaying it which does not equal a bad song. 

To be fair, nobody is voting for the objectively worst songs here. People are voting for their least favorite songs, which is entirely subjective. And it doesn't really matter why they don't like the song. Even if it's just because it's overplayed, it's still their least favorite song, so it's an honest and valid opinion.

That being said I agree that SCOM was voted out too early. But this is democracy. And it's interesting to see what songs people like and dislike the most here.

Just now, SoulMonster said:

You are quoting me, but I didn't say that, that was "opalho".

Yeah, sorry about that! I meant to quote opalho, but I accidently quoted it from your post.

I tried to fix the mistake, but apparently opalho has now deleted the original comment.

This is a pretty awkward situation. Not sure what I should do. Maybe I'll just delete the quote part of my post. 

I honestly don't think that most people prefer the Village leak version. It's just that people who are disappointed are always the loudest, because people tend to complain more than they tend to praise things.

When you're happy with a product you tend to praise it maybe once or twice and then you move on. You don't come to a forum to praise it over and over again. Bitter people tend to remind everyone about how much this and that sucks. People who are satisfied tend to just live their lives.

Besides, most people haven't even heard the Village leaks and they love Hard Skool. Just look at the comment section of the Hard Skool video on Youtube. It's mostly just positivity.

So yeah, of course we want CD2. Some people will hate the album but who cares. You can never please everyone.

3 hours ago, Pele said:

This guy thinks one new song within a 23 year window gives him some sort of victory?

If you're a man of your word, you'll pay me 5000$ when they release a new song. You can call that victory or what ever you want. I don't really care.

40 minutes ago, Pele said:

If Rose released a new song in TEN YEARS you 'win'.

 

Yes, but hopefully we don't have to wait that long. 

27 minutes ago, Pele said:

And you seriously want a whole TEN YEARS for one of these songs to come to fruition?

What are you talking about? Who said that I want to wait ten years for these songs? I believe that a big portion of these songs will be released within the next ten years.

But if you ask me what I want, I want them to be released tomorrow.

14 minutes ago, Pele said:

It's unlikely either of us will remember this in ten years.

Also, you don't 'win' a bet for a singer singing a song in ten years.

I don't think the songs exist.  You do.  They are gonna release the songs.  They are gonna be exactly as I've been saying (Atlas/Perhaps/maybe General).  They won't include anything else.  There will be no full album of new material.

Can't be clearer than that.

Oh, I will remember this bet ten years from now, although we probably don't need to wait that long. But if you're right, you will get your money.

We don't need to go over the terms of our bet again. We already did that when we made the bet in that other thread.

I win if they release a song with full vocals by Axl, other than Atlas, Perhaps or The General. Covers remixes and other weird Blood in the Water type stuff doesn't count. We're talking about a proper song with a chorus and verses etc... I know the deal, you know the deal, we don't need to go over this again.

Time will tell, who wins the bet.

34 minutes ago, Pele said:

So the best would be if they release any song other than the 3 I list within 12 months, you win?

We already made the bet and we agreed that the time frame would be 10 years. Are you saying that you're chickening out of our original bet?

14 minutes ago, Pele said:

Wasn't your terms within 10 years 

Now Slash has said they are releasing the songs Axl has, why don't we revise that?

Yes, they're releasing the songs that Axl has. And according to Slash they'll make an album out of all the songs eventually. That's exactly what I've been saying.

So what do you want to revise?

2 hours ago, Pele said:

No issues with Sweersa, he's the only one who has had the balls to admit he believes these songs are real, with finished vocals and ready to go. 

The only one? Dude, I've literally made a bet with you that the band will release new songs other than Atlas, Perhaps and the General.

6 hours ago, Pele said:

Oh - so you're expecting Me & My Elvis, Zodiac, SoulMonster, Leave Me Alone (or other unheard stuff) etc to come out in these batch of songs Slash has been speaking out?

Or do you think it's gonna be Atlas and Perhaps?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the next couple of songs were Atlas Shrugged and Perhaps, but eventually yes, I'm expecting to hear Soulmonster and other unheard stuff.

We've made a bet about this, remember?

20 hours ago, Its Tino said:

Pele isn’t stupid for thinking what he thinks.

I beg to differ. 😂

Here's my purely subjective ranking. They're in the order of preference and also divided into classes.

 

Class A

1. Coma

2. Welcome to the Jungle

3. Estranged

4. It's So Easy

5. November Rain

6. Sweet Child O’ Mine

7. You Could Be Mine

8. Nightrain

9. Better

10. Don’t Cry (Original)

11. Don’t Damn Me

12. Prostitute

13. Chinese Democracy

14. Double Talkin’ Jive

15. There Was a Time

16. Don’t Cry (Alternative Lyrics)

17. This I Love

 

 

Class B

18. Hard Skool

19. Patience

20. Yesterdays

21. Rocket Queen

22. Mr. Brownstone

23. Shackler's Revenge

24. Oh My God

25. Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock & Roll Decadence)

26. Down On the Farm

37. You’re Crazy (Lies)

38. Civil War

39. Ain't It Fun

40. Live and Let Die

31. Catcher In the Rye

32. Out Ta Get Me

33. Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door

34. Sorry

35. 14 Years

36. Locomotive (Complicity)

37. Paradise City

38. Street of Dreams

39. Absurd

40. Black Leather

41. Dead Horse

42. Used To Love Her

43. Madagascar

44. Since I Don't Have You

44. Perfect Crime

46. I.R.S

47. Riad n' the Bedouins

 

Class C

 

48. The Garden

49. Breakdown

50. My Michelle

51. Scraped

52. Shadow Of Your Love

53. Sympathy For the Devil

54. Move to the City

55. If the World

56. Look At Your Game Girl

57. Anything Goes

58. So Fine

59. Raw Power

60. Bad Apples

61. Dust N' Bones

62. Shotgun Blues

63. Think About You

64. You're Crazy (original)

65. Nice Boys

66. Bad Obsession

67. Garden Of Eden

 

 

Class D

68. Get In The Ring

69. One in a Million

70. Reckless Life

71. Right Next Door To Hell

72. New Rose

73. You Ain't The First

74. Human Being

75. Attitude

76. You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory

77. Hair Of The Dog

78. Mama Kin

79. My World

80. Back Off Bitch

81. I Don't Care About You

82. Buik Makane/ Big Dumb Sex

2 hours ago, Zeppelin said:

More evidence that an album isn't even close to fruition. When you're talking about "probably" releasing a couple new singles, an actual new album doesn't just emerge right after that. 

I'm just happy that they're releasing music. If we get one GNR single every year from now on, that's much more than certain people would have expected from this band.

Every time a new Terminator movie is coming, people are speculating if GNR could be involved. Apparently we're now doing it even when there's no new Terminator movie in sight. 😄

A more interesting topic would be, what real upcoming projects could possibly include new GNR music. For example GTA 6 is coming. GNR music has been in GTA games before and Axl has even been a voice actor for San Andreas. The game might be coming out in 2024-2025 and we know that GNR is releasing music in a very slow pace. So could Tommy "the nightmare" Smith make a return in GTA 6? Having new GNR music in GTA 6 would be one of the best ways to promote the album.

I don't think it should be allowed on the main section of this forum but if people want to make dumb made up lists, I think they should be free to do that in some thread on the jungle section or something.

1 hour ago, Coma16 said:

So basically Perhaps, Atlas, OMG, and The General?

Oh, hi Pele!

I just want all of their unreleased music to be released. That's it. That's my holy grail.