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Removed “Leave Me Alone”, “Broken” and “Today, Tomorrow, Forever” and re-added “Motormouth” - also added the untitled Tommy Stinson demos from the locker

We’re still at 48

Since “Curly Shuffle” is apparently a cover, I wonder if the reworked “Knockin on Heaven’s Door” was submitted to the label in 2000

1 hour ago, Finck2006 said:

Motormouth never existed

Good call - I took that off and found out I was missing “Leave Me Alone” so I added that

Total still stands at 48

Oh hey - I counted right!

From a March 2001 Brazilian Journal interview with Beta:

http://www.gnfnr.dk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3052

Quote

Q: How is the new record going to be?

Beta: So great. I'm emotionally related to them but I think it will be amazing. It will be released in June or July. They already have 48 songs and the record company is selecting the material.

1 minute ago, AtariLegend said:

Why would they release a 20 disk set with 2 disks titled leaks?

More discs = MORE MONEY

"Realdoll.com"

I see even GNR wasn't immune to writing songs about virtual sex in the late 90s

3 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

And Seven and Down By the Ocean, no?

Down by the Ocean was a leftover Izzy track from circa-1994-1996 IIRC

1 minute ago, jettesnel said:

The general I guess

2 Years of Writing, 9 Years of Overdubs: The Chinese Democracy Story

Did the band even write any tracks after 1999 that weren't included on the final album?

If this 15-disc set leaks then Axl's vault of unreleased tracks is pretty much empty

A deserved end to Team Brazil's years of endless bullshit

I think we're seeing the leaks now because that 15-CD set has been cloned and will be available for sale soon

The tracks will be worthless to hoarders at that point - might as well create some excitement now while they still can

Reminds me of the idiot who paid $1000 for the Chinese Democracy album 5 days before it was released and posted it on here

Did a new version of Madagascar leak?

2 minutes ago, lightBLASTER said:

Also, Axl sticking with the same vocal tracks for nearly 10 years is just hilarious. Almost everything else gets changed/re-recorded yet his vocals are the same all the way through.  Can’t make this shit up.

"They call me one-take Axl!"

"Yeah, but your takes all sucked"

"YOU'RE FIRED - WHERE'S MY AUTOTUNE?"

Just now, dadud said:

ya'll think this is the best night of the year? im having a child tomorrow and this story is going to be told to him forever.

Name him Atlas

Just now, cpaxlvacy said:

Going Down just leaked hahahahaha 

Who's on lead vocals?

Does anyone still have the shit-quality recording of "IRS" from Eddie Trunk's radio show in 2003?

I was wondering if the lyrics from the new 1999 leak are the same as in that 2003 recording - Axl's phrasing is different in a lot of spots than what he sang on the final album

Trying to figure out how many times he re-recorded the vocals

I wonder what track number Atlas would have been on the album - Ron mentioned they were trying to fit it on the disc at the last minute, but he didn't say if it was going to be the last track 

Someone should tweet him and ask if he remembers

18 hours ago, Mangler said:

Merck said it was't even in the top 15 or something. I don't think it's a big gun.

Merck was trying to sell a phantom album that was several million dollars over-budget and had demos of many of its songs leaked and in the hands of people who were trying to extort money from the band

He was probably lying to protect the product

There's an alternate reality where all the hoarders leaked their demos before 2008 and the album got scrapped - Irving Azoff selling the album to Best Buy and recouping the label's money was a small miracle 

Maybe “Jackie Chan” was a nickname for Izzy?

Let me put it this way - if Slash had made amends with Axl prior to 2008, would we have ever heard “Sorry”?

Doubtful

Maybe it’s about Izzy and Axl didn’t put it out because they reconciled after he wrote it?

Song is decent

Bucket should have handled all the guitar parts on the album - he’s so far ahead of Robin and Paul in skill that it’s almost silly

2 hours ago, Kasanova King said:

For starters, anyone in the U.S. that goes to a hospital will get treated.  I's one of the reasons our costs are so high.  Instead of going to a clinic or local doctor folks go to the Emergency Room because they know they will be treated.  That's about 10x the cost.

We have among the best doctors and hospitals in the world.  That's thanks to competition, good education, etc.

Many doctors won’t take new Medicaid patients

Where else then can they go besides the ER? 

UrgentCares don’t operate in impoverished neighborhoods:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj8rM32iP3jAhVLdt8KHdrBAcQQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bostonglobe.com%2Fmetro%2F2019%2F01%2F12%2Furgent-care-centers-proliferate-mass-but-fewer-low-income-patients-have-access%2FFATkqt7OtDc0sHFupk7eSJ%2Fstory.html&psig=AOvVaw0_oOKfSI95LvO1x_DuLTS_&ust=1565690274964095

11 minutes ago, DeadSlash said:

So to clarify on this, I think it's a combination of me explaining maximum out of pocket poorly, and some of that bad information from politicians that inspired this thread.

1. The $7k Maximum out of pocket is not a deductible, it's not paid before the insurance kicks in, and the vast majority of people will never ever pay the full $7k.  The maximum out of pocket of $7k is just a lid, a worse case scenario.  A good way to illustrate it would be a hospital stay:

On Original, government run Medicare, you pay $1,316 if you are admitted to the hospital.  This lasts for 60 days.  So if A Medicare recipient is in for 1 day, or 60, it's $1,316.  This is the part A deductible.  (Side note, after 60 days, if you go back, you pay it again.)  If you are in for more than 60 days in a row, the government charges about $250 from day 61 - 90, you are then out of coverage.  The government gives you 60 lifetime reserve days, at double, or $500 a day and if you exhaust those lifetime reserve days you are not covered at all, and 100% responsible for all costs. There is no cap or protection for seniors, if they run up $500k in bills, they owe $500k

On a Medicare Advantage plan, you'll have a daily deductible for your first 5 days of approximately $250 a day(it varies from plan to plan, some closer to $500)  Let's say it is $500 a day and take the above scenario^^  If you are in the hospital for 5 days, you owe $2,500 to the insurance company.  At day 60, nothing changes no additional money is owed, same with day 90, or even if you are in a coma and in the hospital for 365 days, you finished paying on day 5, and owe nothing additional.  Where the 7k limit would come into play, it let's say Mom or Dad has 10 separate 5 days stays in the hospital, they would reach their 7k out of pocket limit on the 3rd stay, and the remaining 7 stays would be 100% the insurance companies responsibility.  With a Medicare Advantage plan you are not guaranteed to PAY $7k in a calendar year, you are guaranteed to never pay MORE than $7k per year.  Does that make more sense?

 

2.  I'm not sure where you heard not deductibles and no out of pocket at all, but that isn't how Medicare works.  Medicare has a Hospital and a medical deductible, and thereafter has an 80/20 split on all part B charges(medical.)   Part A (Hospital) works differently and is explained above.  Medicare does NOT cover RX's.  Rx coverage is only available through private insurance.  Medicare does not have a maximum out of pocket.  IF you are talking about a promise from some politician that there will be no cost involved under "Medicare for all" we can objectively and with 100% certainty call that a disingenuous lie.  How?  How can we so positively make a bold claim that it's a lie "Medicare for all" would have no cost to the patient?  Because Congress LITERALLY just passed a law to eliminate Plan F Medicare supplement policies.  Plan F was/is the most comprehensive plan a senior can get, and it leaves them with little to NO out of pocket costs.  The government has concluded that when you have no risk, you use the plan more and drive up costs for the government.  To be very clear, the United Stated Congress has made it illegal for Medicare recipients to have a plan with "no costs" starting in 2020. The United States Congress passed a law making it MANDATORY that you have costs associated with going to the doctor or hospital.  Whatever politician promises no costs associated with your health care is they are elected is straight up lying to your face and has literally  contributed to eliminating that possibility for people currently on Medicare.